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BS: US Diplomatic Immunity in UK

Iains 07 Oct 19 - 02:02 PM
Mrrzy 07 Oct 19 - 12:32 PM
Iains 07 Oct 19 - 09:48 AM
Mrrzy 07 Oct 19 - 09:44 AM
Iains 07 Oct 19 - 07:02 AM
Jim Carroll 07 Oct 19 - 03:02 AM
Dave Hanson 07 Oct 19 - 02:43 AM
robomatic 06 Oct 19 - 09:38 PM
ChanteyLass 06 Oct 19 - 08:48 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Iains
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 02:02 PM

Other countries have withdrawn diplomatic immunity in similar circumstances. Immunity was not designed to let this kind of lawbreaking go unsanctioned. No one has said Assange has immunity,the US wishes to incarcerate him for whistle blowing.
Interestingly Under the Vienna Convention, diplomatic immunity does not apply to civil actions relating to vehicular accidents,if not being used for diplomatic purposes.
That would leave her wide open to trial in an American court.


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 12:32 PM

Assange doesn't have diplomatic immunity, does he? And the driver can't *be* tried, that's the point.


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Iains
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 09:48 AM

I think all extradition proceedings against Julian Assange should be halted until this matter is resolved in an English Court


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 09:44 AM

People in the US claim diplomatic immunity for all kinds of crimes, and get it. People everywhere claim diplomatic immunity and get it. None of that should be happening- but that's the way it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Iains
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 07:02 AM

The diplomatic immunity claimed by 42 year old Anne Sacoolas is as a result of an agreement put in place in 1994. The special deal was put in place between the UK and the US which gives diplomats and their families based at RAF Croughton diplomatic immunity.Usually, diplomatic immunity only covers those diplomats and their dependants based in London.
Sky News reported that the alleged driver was advised to leave the UK by the American Embassy.
An attempt by Northamptonshire Police to stop her leaving was declined, and the US Embassy has confirmed she's no longer in the UK.

This evading justice by claiming diplomatic immunity is totally wrong when their actions have caused a death. It is not fair on the victim, the parents, or other UK citizens that may be killed ot maimed in the future.
Justice must be seen to be done and hiding behind a veil of immunity is not right. At the very least she should be banned from ever returning to the EU if she will not face justice.
Causing death by dangerous driving can can result in 14 years imprisonment.
This is a weasel action that will be remembered if justice is not seen to be done.
Would the reaction of the US be the same if the boot was on the other foot?


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 03:02 AM

"And the US Government will simply compound this by doing nothing."
Trump is quite likely to demand that any future trade deals depend on Britain desisting from perscuting this poor, innocent American citizen with 'Fake News'
Don't kid yourselves - this is the shape of things to come
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Oct 19 - 02:43 AM

Not a chance of this coward returning to the UK. We've seen it all before. And the US Government will simply compound this by doing nothing.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: robomatic
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 09:38 PM

The Diplomat's wife should do the right thing. Return to the U.K. and go through the legal process.


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Subject: RE: BS: US Diplomatic I
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 08:48 PM

I don't know where the rest of my thread title went, and I had trouble making a working link, but at least that seems okay.


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Subject: BS: US Diplomatic Immunity in UK
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 06 Oct 19 - 08:43 PM

I'm so very sorry.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/06/harry-dunn-death-parents-trapped-nightmare-amid-growing-calls/


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