BS: What constitutes a bad post?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:45 PM

But I don't get convinced that there was any sincere rage there at all, rather than mere manipulation by someone who was out to get a reaction, as a kind of game.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:35 PM

well said, Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:27 PM

Well, hey, I'll play devil's advocate here, my own boney hillbilly Christain self...

I'm thinking back to a class I took when I was in art school. I can't rememeber the guys name but it was entitled "Contempoary Art Seminar" or soemthing like that and the fist class he asked everyone in the class "What is art?" and got an interesting collection of responses. After everyone had an opportunity to reply he took the trash can next to his desk/podium filled with previous classes miscellany and like bailing out a boat emptied it's contents all over the room while exclaiming "This is art!".... Well, if art is something that we react to, as everyone in that class certainly did, then, sure... it meets the criteria. Is it good art? Different question. Would you buy it? Probably not. But did you reat to it? Yeah...

I think, given the website that followed, GUEST has certainly gotten a lot of folks to think. In that, it probably is a good post, irregarless of it's offensiveness. When I copied and pasted the website that followed I thopught of the horror that one must feel to see one's child killed in a war. I thought of the horror that Picasso captured in his painting "Guernica" with the arrow sharp tongue of the farm animal pointing toward the sky from which bombs would fall and kill not just farm animals but children and their families...

It is well known that I am not a proponent of foul language yet I can understand the absolute rage that can bring a person to such a level. When war touches one on a personal basis it has to have a dehumanizing effect on them. I mean, look back to the evening of 9/11 and your own thoughts and ask yourself honestly what you are capable of given the circumstance.

So, yes, I was offended by GUEST's post but I am equally offended by my country's foriegen policy that trades kids lives for oil...

Peace

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:25 PM

Woodworm!

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:15 PM

And one of the results of responding to posts like that one brucie was citing is that it makes it harder to excise them. In some cases it can have the effect of ensuring that they stay in place permanently, in order to make it possible to make sense of a discussion that develops. brucie may have achieved that in this case, which I am sure was not his wish.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:15 PM

for me, using punctuation in mudcat is like wearing a business suit and stilettos to do the laundry. i dont mind if you dont read my posts at all, but for me, its a sign that i'm relaxing after work. at work i write for a living, use all the proper formats, edit, re-edit, correct, punctuate, yes, use capitals aaggh etc.

for me using lower case is the equivalent of fluffy slippers. so, um, stick that up your kaboozie.

and have a lovely day.

ooh, this post is rapidly deteriorating into........


A Bad Post!

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:11 PM

The instigator gets blamed for all of it And the instigator is to blame for all of it. But that doesn't mean that the people who respond aren't also responsible for the damage they cause.

That's how guilt and responsibility work - sharing it out doesn't reduce it. In the same way that "it's not my fault - he made me do it" is a cop out, so is "it's not my fault - they chose to do it." We are responsible for all the foreseeable consequences of our actions.
..........................

A bad post goes to the wrong address. So you take it round to the right address, or stick it back in the postbox.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:07 PM

I generally make it a point to ignore posts when it's plainly obvious that some twelve-year-old kid has gotten hold of the computer while Mom and Dad are off to the pub.

For that matter, I don't read posts that completely lack any attempt at proper punctuation and capitalization. Yes, I know there are some regular contributors to this forum that use the "no-caps-no-puctuation" style, but, if you're one of 'em, dig this: I don't read your posts!

Listen up! Punctuation is a convention that allows the pauses, inflections and other nuances of spoken language to be communicated via the written page. We damned sure don't speak by running our words all together with no pauses or changes of inflection, so why would anybody want to write like that?

Oh, you mean it's my job to figure it out? Screw you!

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:00 PM

Amos, you useless *%^$er! I blame YOU for all those &**king bad posts! That's right, All of them! You are worthless! You stink! I hope this here badly done post upsets you and aq whole lot of other people and causes endless discord on Mudcat, serious backbiting, and the eventual failure and cancellation of this entire f*&king forum!!! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 07:42 PM

Here, here, Amos!

U Da Man!

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 07:40 PM

We have a number of bad posts here. For instance, there is one that is roughly 110 feet southwest of my front window. It's full of dry rot and is home to a nest of carpenter ants. It's all mossy on one side and has weird mushrooms growing off it. It has a crack at the bottom. Due to the crack, the dry rot, and the ants, it finally fell halfway over last week and this has caused our fence to sag badly in that section. I fear it may have to be replaced. Another 50 feet over was a perfectly good post...perfectly good until a visitor backed their car into it and knocked it down. It is now a bad post, because it's broken.

Does that help?

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Amos
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 07:15 PM

It is bad because it depends on obscenity, blame, and the nullifcation of others and has only upset as its purpose, has no art, is neither gracefuul nor musical, seeks to produce discord and is badly done even for the bad post it is!!


Any questions?

A

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 06:52 PM

These comments from Jeri on another thread are worth considering:

Subject: RE: BS: We've lost a good one
From: Jeri - PM
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:12 PM

What progress can be made by blaming people? It's over, done, and I think trying to figure out how to keep it from happening again is more important. The only conrol most of us have here is over what WE contribute, and the 'cause' you (and I) think is important is not a 'who' but a 'what'.

I will agree with Shambles a bit here. We are so used to expecting someone to clean up after us that we do stuff when we perhaps should know better. You know how many times I've seen a post which, under ANY circumstance, should have been deleted followed by one reply...then another...then another. ... The instigator gets blamed for all of it, but that "But MAAAA...he MADE me do it!" doesn't even work for kids most of the time. It should be pretty easy to see through here, too.

Blaming people is a wimp-out; a way of avoiding any real solutions. Then again, I don't see this sort of thing ever stopping. There are too many here who enjoy it. We, as a group, get what we deserve.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 06:37 PM

Thank you, Shambles. Now I know.

Subject: RE: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: The Shambles
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 06:35 PM

Subject: RE: Explain the BS rules
From: Max - PM
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:40 AM

Since you are with us, you get to help us make the rules. Of late it seems that it is used for non-music related questions, comments, thoughts and stories. It may be like just a light conversation piece, or just killing time, or getting through a bad day, or anything non-academic (if you will). Or, just don't use it. It is what you make it. Don't sweat the rules, cause there aint none.

Subject: BS: What constitutes a bad post?
From: Peace
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 06:12 PM

Is this bad? It was posted by GUEST on the Black Watch thread.

"ha ha ha ha ha ha i told you

[removed here, too] [it can be put back in. Do you want it put back in?]

ha ha ha ha ha ha"

I am assuming that it's OK and acceptable and that I shouldn't respond to it. So I haven't and won't. But what then makes a post 'unacceptable'?

Curious in Dayton