Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: bubblyrat
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 09:35 AM

I LOVE the TS programmes , and now play "Shove The Pig's Foot etc " ,and other tunes as a result, but I ,too , fear that the time when someone from Sussex appears , playing Scan Tester tunes on English concertina, or Rob Murch plays "Jacob or Enrico" on his banjo , is a long way off !!
      Still , that's the bias of the programme-makers against English music for you ( the bastards !!).

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 07:03 AM

Just as the folk music of England has many regional variations within it, at the same time it has a great deal in common with the music of its neighbours. I can't believe that the English emigrants didn't take any songs with them. Perhaps the Cecil Sharp Project - touring England and Scotland in January - will shed some light on this. Folk music in Wales has had a profile perhaps even lower than folk music in England, so I was stunned to hear the Welsh group Calan earlier this year.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:30 AM

Thanks for the article by Toner Quinn - he sums the situation up beautifully.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,The Lamenting Whelk
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:10 AM

I love the Transatlantic Sessions, but the bias against Welsh and English artists is more of a political anachronism than because of any genuine musical differences; all the traditions of our islands are interconnected whether the supporters of some outdated folk apartheid like it or not.

Here's an excellent article on the subject by Irish musician Toner Quinn:

Toner Quinn - What About England?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: LesB
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 03:30 AM

Thanks for the link to the box.biz but unfortunately it goes straight to a login page, with no other info on it. So can anyone tell me what the box is?
Cheers
Les

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:58 AM

Blissful telly....as ever. I think the location this time was the same as the previous series...and thy haven't changed the formula one bit (but then again why would they?).

It's now on the BBC iplayer at that link in the first post above.

ps Great to see Eric Bibb is one of the guests this year....is he the first Afro American to feature on Transatlantic Sessions?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 10:01 PM

If you missed it and have access to Sky Player you can watch it there.

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Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:24 PM

PS there's alot of the Transatlantic Sessions available on You Tube

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:23 PM

"American subgroup"...Canadians will not thank you for that
and my point is. We have an incredible series of series happening and the English tradition is not directly involved

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:13 PM

Well, hidden within your American subgroup above, there had to have been a lot of English-origened people. We do speak their language, with a Dutch accent it is claimed. mg

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM

sorry to..ummm..rain on the parades of the Anglos and Anglophiles, but the point to this series was and is the interaction between Scots, I rish, American, and yes, even Canadians ..............

And the point is?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: BTNG
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:09 PM

sorry to..ummm..rain on the parades of the Anglos and Anglophiles, but the point to this series was and is the interaction between Scots, I rish, American, and yes, even Canadians got involved (The McGarrigle sisters with Kate's children, Martha and Rufus Wainwright is incredble to watch)Kate & Anna McGarrigle - Hard Times Come Again No More

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:06 PM

Superb.
Can't wait to see Alison Krauss & Union Station in November in Birmingham. And hopefully another 'Transatlantic Sessions Live' tour in the new year?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 03:01 PM

20.01 hours on Orkney. It has just finished. It was superb and should be broadcast nationally.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Brit
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:59 PM

The English were the majority, particularly in the years after the ending of the Napoleonic Wars - see Charlotte Erickson's 'Invisible Immigrants', for example. Although the Breitish government preferred em,igrants to go to Canada, huge numbers went to the United States.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:40 PM

Good point re ENlgish music. I would like to see and hear more. I am not too aware of English immigrant groups to U.S. other than Cornish. Was there much immigration after early colonial days? Did people tend to go to Canada instead perhaps? What were the patterns? Obviously they could assimilate very easily due to language etc. I would think post-colonial there might have been unpleasantness towards them but I don't know. I can think of towns in my home state that have a Welsh or German or Dutch orientation, but I can't think of English..of course north in Canada Victoria is famously British...I don't know..how much immigration was there, where did they go, what did they do..where are they now? I know a lot came to the early colonies like Virginia, many many as indentured servants. mg

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 12:24 PM

Danny Thompson is English....and he's been in it since the first series.

But that's not the point for me. As I see it the programmes have always been a celebration of the results when Celtic music was transplanted by the Irish and Scottish emigrants and subsequently adapted into something quite different but essentially the same (bluegrass, country). The programmes were devised, commissioned, produced and filmed north of the border so it's hardly a surprise that they get broadcast there first. I'm sure they'll get a nationwide airing within the next few months (presumably on BBC4)

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: doc.tom
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 08:00 AM

Thanks Commander

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:53 AM

"I complained today to the BBC about it only being on BBC Scotland, but am not holding my breath! Apparently the DVD will be available in December"

BBC Scotland stuff is put up on iPlayer though, no? I watched all of the "World Accordion to Phil" series (presented by accordionist Phil Cuningham) on iPlayer, and that was a BBC Scotland-only programme.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:30 AM

doc.tom

Here: TheBox.bz

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Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Frank Lee
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:29 AM

Will Fly wrote:- 'Wonder if there'll be any English musicians in the series... nah - too much to hope for'.

Dead right!   They claim it'll be a mixture of American, Scots, and Irish.

I've travelled the world a fair bit in the last 30 years and folks look astonished when I tell them I don't (to my knowledge) play Irish music, even though I'm English. They simply look puzzled if I tell them I play English music.
Moreover, the assumption is made that everything I play MUST be Irish, because I'm English (makes sense doesn't it?), it's just that I play Irish music they've never heard before!

There's a PhD in this I'm sure, and I expect this has been discussed at length here in the past. The Irish/Scottish 'folk industry' - an oxymoron IMHO if ever there was one - probably has too much at stake to admit there's other folk music within these shores.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 07:17 AM

If you have Freesat, you can receive BBC2 Scotland wherever in the UK you happen to be.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: terrier
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 06:52 AM

I thought there were English, Irish and Scots musicians in all the series? I don't remember seeing any welsh musicians though.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Peter C
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 06:52 AM

I complained today to the BBC about it only being on BBC Scotland, but am not holding my breath! Apparently the DVD will be available in December

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: doc.tom
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:45 AM

ALL of the series... are WHERE?

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:21 AM

Wonder if there'll be any English musicians in the series... nah - too much to hope for.

I have all the previous series on disc and love 'em to death - but I do wish the handle "Transatlantic" wasn't so biased. It isn't as though all the music was pure folk music anyway - much of it is material composed by the artists.

Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing the new set.

Subject: RE: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:18 AM

Which reminds me that ALL of the series including the 'lost' series 1 are all on TheBox.bz I expect series 5 will soon follow.

Subject: Transatlantic Sessions - Series 5
From: evansakes
Date: 30 Sep 11 - 04:55 AM

Starts tonight....but only on BBC2 Scotland for the moment.

Here's the details for Episode One

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Episode 1 of 6, Series 5
DURATION: 30 MINUTES
Transatlantic Sessions once again brings together the best of Nashville, Ireland and Scotland in an award-winning format that affords, in the words of one critic, a unique insight into the sheer joy of making music.
Recorded in a beautiful old hunting lodge at the entrance to Glen Lyon near Aberfeldy in the Perthshire Highlands, top vocal and instrumental exponents of the Country and Celtic traditions gathered to rehearse and play together with no audience except themselves and a resident house-band of their peers. As with previous series, music co-directors were Nashville's Jerry Douglas and Shetland's Aly Bain.
Leavening the intimacy of the music-making through each of the six programmes in the series is a strong element of spectacular Highland scenic photography while this time around a greater emphasis on informal backstage conversations and stories serves to highlight the series genuinely historic qualities of collaboration and performance.

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