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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 14 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM GregF, it is ALL being taught in Albuquerque, as I said an hour ago. Except, Art, if I may quote you: quote: "I make no claims for the quality of the material presented or for the level of understanding that students bring out of it" So exactly what IS being taught in Albuquerque then? Get back to us on that, will ya? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: DougR Date: 14 Jul 10 - 06:25 PM But the questionable action taken by the DOJ took place under the Obama administration! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 14 Jul 10 - 06:19 PM The fact is that the situation BB is pissing and moaning about, and blaming on Obama, occurred during the Bush administration. Listening to Fox News will rot your brain. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:16 PM The subject? WHICH subject? I detect several in this thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: DougR Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:09 PM The most interesting thing about this thread is so many are willing to express an opinion without knowing much about the subject. It's the same with chief critics of Arizona's SB1070. Things just don't change do they? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,Riginslinger Date: 13 Jul 10 - 10:30 PM "But college is the new high school..." I thing Bobert is probably right about this, but why has it come to this. I can recall trying to fill in for teachers--yes, I know, that's pretty pointless--but the curriculum had been dumbed down in high school to what I recalled covering in grade school. It seems to me that one of the by-products of the cultural revolution of the 1960's was the beginning of the push to teach to the "lowest common denominator," at which point everyone else in the class is bored. The first step in finding a solution is to identify the problem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: artbrooks Date: 13 Jul 10 - 06:31 PM GregF, it is ALL being taught in Albuquerque, as I said an hour ago. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 13 Jul 10 - 06:02 PM Is any of that being taught at all anymore!?? No. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Ebbie Date: 13 Jul 10 - 05:47 PM Bobert is right. In my father's generation (he was born in 1901)graduation from elementary school meant something; it made you eminently employable. A generation later (mine; I was born in 1935) completing high school was what you needed to successfully enter the job market. Today, a college degree, while still necessary, is not enough in itself to ensure that you will succeed in your chosen field. A Master's is considered the minimum for many positions. When we all get to put Ph.D behind our names, what will it worth, and where do we go from there? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: artbrooks Date: 13 Jul 10 - 05:34 PM The current requirement for graduation from high school in Albuquerque is U.S. History, 1 year; World History, 1 year; New Mexico History, 1 semester; Government, 1 semester and Economics, 1 semester. I make no claims for the quality of the material presented or for the level of understanding that students bring out of it...but that really is as it has always been. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Ref Date: 13 Jul 10 - 05:16 PM This whole "story" about the NBPP and the Obama administration has now been de-bunked. The decision not to prosecute was made before Obama took office. Gotta love the instant credibility these embedded Republican liars get from the so-called "liberal media!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 13 Jul 10 - 03:19 PM I don't think so, Don, except in college... But college is the new high school... And postgrad work is like the old college... Everything has been dumbed down a few notches... We are moving into a "Brave New World" where the Epsilons makeup the majority of the voters... Kinda what I have referred to an "Epsilon Nation"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 13 Jul 10 - 01:58 PM In high school back in the late 1940s, I had a year of World History, followed by a full year of American History, followed in turn by a semester of Civics (the Constitution, a survey of various political and economic theories, a touch of ethics). These courses were required for graduation. Is any of that being taught at all anymore!?? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Greg F. Date: 13 Jul 10 - 09:57 AM Thomas Jefferson said that the survival of democracy depends on a well-informed electorate. Probably why funding for education has been consistently cut across the board in Repuiblican administrations from Reagan thru Baby Bush. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,redhorse at work Date: 13 Jul 10 - 09:37 AM Agreed, Bobert. If an arguments's not good enough to stand up on its own merits without the bogus authority of citation, why should I bother to read it? nick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 13 Jul 10 - 08:51 AM I kinda go the other way, nick... I assume that all cut 'n post are lies, left or right... I'd much rather hear someone say what's on his or her mind based on their knowledge and past/present experiences... That's why I don't read cut 'n posts and I'm sure lotta other just scroll thru 'um as well... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,redhorse at work Date: 13 Jul 10 - 08:47 AM Bill has got it right, but I don't think it's anything to do with lefties or righties. I have for some time had the feeling that in some areas there is an unwarranted respect for citation. If I say as my personal opinion, "Obama is an idiot" my view will be accepted or rejected as appropriate. But if I cut and paste an article from wherever that says "Obama is an idiot", there is an expectation that this view should be taken more seriously, purely by virtue of the fact that it has been published by someone else. It seems to stem from an idea that if you can get something published, you must be an authority worthy of respect. I doubt this was true even in the golden age of newspapers. In the age of the internet, it's palpable nonsense. nick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 12 Jul 10 - 11:40 PM No...the righties didn't used to be lefties. They just now have thousands of folks doing C&P of rightie propaganda...fueled by Fox News as the most visible source creating skewed and faked information... and it makes what used to be just silly rumors into an entire **belief system**! It has turned "old wives tales" and nutty theories into full-fledged, systematic lying to influence the lazy and impressionable who already WANT to believe bad stuff about the government. Someone said tonight, "...the nuts used to write us letters on red typewriter ribbons in ALL CAPS! Now they have their own websites!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 12 Jul 10 - 11:23 PM Interesting theory, Bill... The righties used to be lefties but carrying all them , ahhhh, facts hurt their head so bad that their heads shut down leaving them back where they atarted out??? Interesting... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 12 Jul 10 - 11:16 PM I am beginning to suspect, Don, that 'information overload' may be involved. When hundreds of 'sources' can just copy & paste the same mis-information, it has become a lot of work to dig thru the hype to sort out the truth..(and find the parts left out). Also on the show tonight was the FULL story of the couple who posed as pimp & prostitute to allegedly trap ACORN staffers into illegal acts. Yes...they edited the tape, and the full tape shows the ACORN staffer pumped the fakes for info, then called the police and reported them. But, of course, ACORN was hounded into quitting before all the "spun" news could be clarified. Throw enough mud, and your opponents may not be able to shower 9 times a day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 12 Jul 10 - 11:00 PM Thomas Jefferson said that the survival of democracy depends on a well-informed electorate. Sometimes I'm afraid that we are doomed! (Way to go, BB!) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 12 Jul 10 - 10:51 PM Ya' know what, Bill??? 'Ol Bobert gonna tell ya' so listen up... (Bobert whispers) "Between you and me, there are alot of people out there (and some here) who is, ahhhh... (Anyone listenin'???) Deviod of any ability to see, ahhhh, reality" (Purdy scarey, ain't it, folks???) ((Not to the delussional, Bobz...) B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bill D Date: 12 Jul 10 - 10:41 PM Okay...tonight the story finally made the LIBERAL news media... (oh...do remember that *I* said 4 days ago:) "...I think we may not be getting all of the story. Faux News is not exactly renowned for mentioning all of the details." here is one explanation, which jibes with the basic facts noted on Keith Olbermann's program, where he noted that Bill O'Reilly was, "as we speak" still pushing the Fox version. Long & short is in this quote from the above source: (more there) "The decision not to file a criminal case occurred before Obama was even in office. This means that the case was downgraded to a civil case 11 days before Obama was inaugurated, 26 days before Eric Holder became attorney general, and about nine months before Thomas Perez was confirmed as head of the Civil Rights Division. From Media Matters: # Adams has admitted that he does not have first-hand knowledge of the events, conversations, and decisions that he is citing to advance his accusations; # The Bush administration's Justice Department — not the Obama administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008; # The Obama administration successfully obtained default judgment against Samir Shabazz, a member of the New Black Panther Party carrying a nightstick outside the Philadelphia polling center on Election Day 2008; # The Bush administration DOJ chose not to pursue similar charges against members of the Minutemen, one of whom allegedly carried a weapon while harassing Hispanic voters in Arizona in 2006; # No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the polling center in 2008; So, no matter how many times J. Christian Adams declares that the Obama administration refuses to protect the rights of white people — and no matter how many times Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh repeat it — it's not true." And THAT is why, Bruce, there was such 'deafening silence' while you waited for we **Liberals** to gasp and quiver at 'our' DOJ's failure to 'do something' and why the trumped up charge "... that Obama's DOJ has a policy of NOT pursuing any Civil Rights case where the victim is white, and the accused is black. And it is lying to Congress about it." is simply nonsense. I repeat, from 4 days ago....Can YOU say "spin"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 10 Jul 10 - 08:49 AM Well, all one needs to do is look at the Supreme Court to see just just how Bush boobie-trapped the next administration... And the country, fir that matter... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 10 - 09:47 PM It has all the earmarks of a Machiavellian ploy. If you do get turfed out of office, be sure that you've left enough crap-traps behind that the next administration gets blamed for the doings of the previous administration. That way, you have a better chance of getting back in in the next election. Replaces poison and dagger-thrusts in dark hallways, which, in these enlightened (??) days, are much too obvious and are generally frowned upon. Elementary, my dear Borgia. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 10 - 09:24 PM Thank you, ref... Me thinks that there are one shitload of GS-15s and up who had to pledge to love George Bush until the day he dies to get the jobs they now have... The Civil Rights prosecutors ain't nuthin' but a blip on the corrupt hiring practices that the Bush/Cheney regime used... I mean, look at Iraq... They hired a 20 something kid to run the Iraqi stock markets who had no experience in anything other than being a loyal anti-abortion, anti-tax Republican cookie-cutter foot soldier... I think it is a grave mistake to think that the government that Bush left were all these wonderfully qualified people, other than a handfull of federal prosecutors... That's bull... After 9/11 it was Katie0bar-the-door for the US government getting packed with right winged idealogues... And guess what??? They are still there and will be until they retire!!! So when very stuipd things happen by these underqualifued people it's pathetic to have the Bushites here bal;me it on Obama... Bush left enough ticking time-bombs in our governemnt to last us a life time of bad shit happening... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Ref Date: 09 Jul 10 - 06:41 PM This is a bunch of crap. The only mistake the Dems made here was not to announce on day one that they'd be reviewing the records of every lawyer hired under Bush AG's, with a particular interest in weeding out the Regency University, Liberty University, and Patrick Henry College grads. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Jul 10 - 05:36 PM Bruce started an earlier thread on "Obama's" TSA (Transportation Safety Administration) to match this one on "Obama's" DOJ (Department of Justice). They keep trying, but Presidents really have limited ability to affect the operations of government agencies. The Reagan Administration appointed political commissars at the regional office level of most agencies, and subsequent presidents retained at least some of these political positions. Eventually, we learned how to ignore the commissars. Even the cabinet members who are supposed to direct agencies, have relatively little effect on the independence of civil service bureaucrats - the people who actually know how to do the work. It's true that the Bush Administration attempted to politicize the Civil Rights Office of the Department of Justice, but it was only partly successful in this effort. I used to work on assignments for the DOJ Civil Rights Office - they're a pretty good organization. It seems to me that the Philadelphia situation in question, had been one of those Bush Administration attempts to use the agency for political purposes. The Black Panthers' actions were certainly not as threatening as the demonstrators carrying rifles outside an arena where Obama was speaking. Prosecution of the non-violent Black Panther demonstration was beyond the moderate, non-political stance the Civil Rights Office has traditionally taken. So, the speak of "Obama's TSA" or "Obama's DOJ" (Department of Justice) is a misconception. Government agencies are not political puppets. For the most part, they carry out the laws enacted by Congress - not the petty whims of politicians. But the politicians still keep trying. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 10 - 05:19 PM Yeah, and alot of Obama's DOJ holdovers are the same peope who had to all but swear an oath to love Bush forever and be against abortion and taxes and, and... in order to get their jobs from Bush??? And as for Obama's people??? Hundreds of appointments are being held up by the Repubs so it ain't all that easy to become an "Obama's people" without having to cowtie to the knothead Repubs in Congress??? This minority rule is getting a little old... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: artbrooks Date: 09 Jul 10 - 05:15 PM The issue has been discussed. Most of those posting agree that there really is no issue. Please feel free to disagree - but I won't be here to read it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 10 - 04:02 PM BB, it's obvious that you're not interested in a reasonable discussion, you just answer any opposing viewpoint by being snotty. Very telling. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 09 Jul 10 - 03:10 PM So, Don, you think that people opposed to the present administration should be ignored, and not be able to request investigations??? Then you obviously had a problem with liberals during the Bush administration, bringing up all sorts of accusaions. They should have been shut up and ignored, according to YOUR standards. Don: "Despite the AP story that BB posted, AP also reported that J. Christian Adams refused to talk to them, but he did talk to Fox News" AP Article: "Adams declined to speak with The Associated Press on Thursday. He told Fox News earlier..." So the point of your comment was to show you CAN read???? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:58 PM "Obama's DOJ. . . ." Actually, the Department of Justice is full of Bush administration hold-overs, and if Obama is remiss in this matter at all, it's that he didn't adequately shovel out the stables. Bush-Era DOJ-er Stoking New Black Panther CaseDespite the AP story that BB posted, AP also reported that J. Christian Adams refused to talk to them, but he did talk to Fox News. And now, as Paul Harvey used to say, you know the rest of the story. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:46 PM Spaw, A fair comment, but the accusation requires investigation. As did any BY LIBERALS about the actions under a conservative administration. To ignore it is to undermine the entire idea of whistleblowers, as well as the fairness of the law. The POLL WATCHER who came outside ( after being told by the NBP not to) called the police. To accept this without investigation means that the next time blacks are prevented from voting by intimidation, the DOJ has established a precedent that it is ok. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:21 PM The discussion is only about politics as usual and not on how to get past THAT.....The word is revo;ution. This is politics as usual: Adams' claims are rooted in decades of ideological battles over the Justice Department that were fought as overt racism waned and the wisdom of laws aimed at helping minorities began to be questioned. Ronald Reagan's administration drew much liberal criticism for its enforcement priorities, as did Bill Clinton's from conservatives. Last December, a Government Accountability Office report documented what Democrats called reduced enforcement of major laws against discrimination and voting rights during the Bush administration. Now it's the conservatives' turn. Next................... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:07 PM OK, since the "Obama is God " group insists that they do not acknowledge Fox, here is another article: ____________________________________________________________________ Ex-Justice Dept lawyer says whites' rights ignored By JESSE WASHINGTON (AP) – Jul 1, 2010 PHILADELPHIA — Witnesses described an ugly scene: Two members of the New Black Panther Party threatening white voters the day Barack Obama was elected president, flinging insults like "white devil" and "you're about to be ruled by the black man, cracker." The fallout from the case has become even uglier. Most charges against the men were dropped for lack of evidence, the U.S. Justice Department says. Now a former Justice Department lawyer is accusing his ex-superiors of ignoring white voters' rights and creating a systematic "one-way" approach in which only minorities are protected. The claims by J. Christian Adams are the latest installment of a long-running dispute over Justice Department enforcement of the nation's civil rights laws. It's a political fight over such volatile accusations as black-on-white racism, double standards and payback — issues that are magnified with black men serving as president and attorney general. "To some, the civil rights laws are not meant to protect all Americans, they are meant to protect certain Americans," Adams, a conservative who helped prosecute the case against the New Black Panthers, wrote in a June 28 essay on pajamasmedia.com. He quit the Justice Department on May 14. Adams declined to speak with The Associated Press on Thursday. He told Fox News earlier, "There is a pervasive hostility within the civil rights division at the Justice Department toward these sorts of cases" where blacks are accused of discrimination." Department of Justice spokesman Tracy Schmaler said the law is enforced equally for everyone and that the charges against the New Black Panthers were dropped because they were not supported by the facts or the law. "We continue to work with voters, communities and local law enforcement to ensure that every American can vote free from intimidation, coercion or threats," Schmaler said. On Election Day 2008, King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson dressed in black uniforms of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, whose website recently made such statements as, "the white man has kept us deaf, dumb and blind, and used every `dirty trick' in the book to stand in the way of our freedom and independence." The men stationed themselves near the entrance to a polling place in a largely black neighborhood. Shabazz carried a nightstick. Their actions quickly came to the attention of police, who told Shabazz to leave but allowed Jackson, a certified poll watcher, to remain. Shortly before President George W. Bush left office, the Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the two men, the New Black Panther Party and its leader, Malik Zulu Shabazz. The defendants never responded to the government's lawsuit, which had the same effect as a guilty plea. Before any penalties could be handed down — and after Obama appointed Eric Holder to run the Justice Department — charges were dropped against everyone but Samir Shabazz. The court prohibited him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of any Philadelphia polling place through 2012. The Justice Department has explained this decision by saying that Jackson was a certified poll watcher who did not carry any weapons, that the New Black Panther website denounced the actions in Philadelphia and that the group had no national plan to intimidate voters. Adams says it should have been an open-and-shut case and that numerous "career" Justice Department attorneys — as opposed to those who come and go with each administration — agreed that the New Black Panthers clearly intimidated voters. He wrote that some people see selective enforcement of civil rights laws "as a backdoor way to achieve reparations for slavery and discrimination. If the American public won't tolerate monetary reparations, which they won't, then a one-way approach to civil rights laws is seen as the next best alternative." "This aggressive one-way approach toward the civil rights laws is central to understanding why the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party was dismissed by the Obama Justice Department," he wrote. Adams' claims are rooted in decades of ideological battles over the Justice Department that were fought as overt racism waned and the wisdom of laws aimed at helping minorities began to be questioned. Ronald Reagan's administration drew much liberal criticism for its enforcement priorities, as did Bill Clinton's from conservatives. Last December, a Government Accountability Office report documented what Democrats called reduced enforcement of major laws against discrimination and voting rights during the Bush administration. Now it's the conservatives' turn. "There's a fair amount of evidence, from this case and others, of a belief that these laws should only be used to enforce the rights of minorities," said Jennifer Rubin, a contributing editor at Commentary magazine who has written extensively about the New Black Panther case. "That's a matter for public debate, and perhaps great concern." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i6PlcZeiW_Nucd6_I72lQV6BEi4QD9GMHAS82 Now, can we discuss the issue instead of me? Or is there no justification for these acts, and someone in the DOJ should be fired, and possibbly prosecuted? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 10 - 12:02 AM I think what we have here are a couple of guys vigorously riding their hobby horses, under the assumption that they're actually going somewhere. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Ebbie Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:14 PM Don't complicate the issue, Art. ;>) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: artbrooks Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:23 PM While I realize that this is entirely off-topic, just how does preventing the citizens of one country in North America from entering another country in North America save North America? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jul 10 - 09:41 PM I don't know that I see the need for the addition of (opinion thread) to the thread title, although I think something needs to be done about thread titles that are obviously propaganda. Maybe it would be better to just put the thread originator's name next to the thread title..... Bruce, you can post all the propaganda you want in your messages, but keep it out of thread titles, willya? You're one of the worst offenders. We are a discussion forum, which means people are allowed to discuss all sides of an issue. A propaganda title serves to start the thread out with a slant. Oh....and when you copy-paste information, be sure to cite your source. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: GUEST,Riginslinger Date: 08 Jul 10 - 09:31 PM Just want to save the planet, that's all! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 10 - 08:05 PM Yeah, right! And take another (goose) step down the road to Buchenwald. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 08 Jul 10 - 08:05 PM Rigs, Rigs, Rigs... Hey, pal, me thinks yer driftin' too far from the shore... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Riginslinger Date: 08 Jul 10 - 06:54 PM Yes, and hopefully Arizona wins that suit and lights the way to save North America. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: Bobert Date: 08 Jul 10 - 05:28 PM Yeah, okay, I too knew this was a BB thread because of the way it was worded... First of all, given the Bush messes that Obama is still trying to clean up I find it amazing that anyone would expect him to be all over a relatively low level DOJ decision but... ...secondly and more important I though this thread was going to be about the DOJ taking Arizona to court over its racial profiling immigration policy that is about to go into effect... That is a 100 times more story than this "Faux" story... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: JohnInKansas Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:49 PM BB does a much better job of authenticating the whine than those who cite counter sources. "Published July 06, 2010" but WHERE AND BY WHOM? The first rule of propaganda is to never reveal a source. Just make a claim and rant about it. Maybe the reason no one else started a thread is that nobody else listens to or reads your choice of lunatics? PDFTT. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:46 PM Spaw, So you have a permanant position at the Obama administration, then? I figured with your obvious expertise in BS, you would be the White House Spokesman by now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:33 PM Oh Sins.....That just can't be right! Why BB has his straight from the horse's Geeziz......What a thought. Ya' know though, if Fox went print, they would be come the complete source..........for wrapping fish, little puppies piddle papres, bird cage liners, and even as the occasional, emergency asswipe. As things are now the only asswipes they provide are their followers................... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: SINSULL Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:31 PM I read the Fox report and I read the NYTimes report. The real story is somewhere between the two. I posted the link for anyone who cared to read it. Did you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread) From: beardedbruce Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:27 PM But OBVIOUSLY the NYT is a biased source, so, a la many here I can just ignore whatever they say. That seems to be the preferred method of dealing with determining truth, as far as I see it being done here at Mudcat. Thank you for the posting- but I saw the videotape and the interview with the Kennedy campaign manager. Did you? |
