BS: The New Anti-semitism

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 08:20 PM

This thread I remind everyone is about the New anti-semitism.

Please re read the article.

Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 04:27 PM

He cured himself ??

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 04:21 PM

Now Marc, you were the one who said he had a charm to cure piles!

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 04:42 PM

He wants Wolfgang more than me, how would feel ?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 04:09 PM

Please keep your mouths closed if you're going to kiss and makeup.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 04:00 PM

Now Marc, and I thought we were friends ? What has happened to that friendly chap that told me about his family, profession and interest's in life.I couldn't have offended you.After all you were the one who said my mp's to you were an insight. What's the problem ? Sorry for referring to the Jews as a race, are we mates again Marc ????

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 03:50 PM

Jews are not a race, Curator. they are a religion.

But Nazis like yourself also thought that they were a race, didn't they?

One thing about you, Curator. You are not the "New" anti-semitism. Just the same old kind down through the ages.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 03:36 PM

Nazi heritage Marc? now you above all people know my views on this subject from our cosy posts, I do not dislike the Jewish race. Are you going to dance all night with your hand on Wolfgangs ass, or maybe you could get to the point.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 03:22 PM

Wolfgang is an all right German in my book.

Curator, your Nazi heritage always seems to come through in your posts. You might just be the biggest Jew hater here, and that takes some doing. But you are sure contending for number one.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 03:17 PM

Richard, nice to see these two nestled up together, I'm sure your not a lover of Irish sayings, but there is a couple that comes to mind for Wolfie and Marc, SHOW ME YOUR COMPANY AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE. DOGS THAT SHARE A BASKET SHARE THE FLEAS. A FOOL IS ALWAYS LEAD BY A FOOL. AS WELCOMING AS A GERMAN TO A JEW.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 02:45 PM

Bridge, I love being inside your head.

absolutely love it.

get off wolfgang's case. He's got you pegged and so do I.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 02:13 PM

I see Wolfgang. One rule for MG, another for the rest. Does that sound familiar or what?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 11:42 AM

Nothing new. I rest my case.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 06:26 PM

I suggest, Wolfgang, you have not considered the hints, the subtexts, of both violence and sexual violence inherent in much of what Gobson posts.

And no, I am not going to refresh my memory of his vile outpourings.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 06:05 PM

Now Marc, what way is that for a birthday boy to talk.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 05:58 PM

My birthday is in January, curator, my name is not Marc and if it was, I would not spell it that way, and no, I would not consider you a friend and you know why. so do others here, as you well know.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 03:22 PM

Now Marc don't be shy, it is your birthday on the 4th, and as to your friends here I do hope I'm one ?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 02:35 PM

I wonder how anyone could ever pick you up wrong Wolfgang.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 11:40 AM

Wolfgang, you should consider with care what Gobson habitually says and does before you condemn those who use words against him. (Richard Bridge)

Richard,

(1) You seem to make the assumption that I have not or if I had I would have posted differently. You're wrong.
(2) I have never condemned those who have used words against him. Martin Gibson has worked hard to merit each bit of verbal abuse. I have condemned what I consider as physical threats and stalking.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 06:04 AM

Marc is probably too shy to let you all know that it's his birthday on the 4th May. If any of you can make it to Somerset County I am sure he'd love to see you. Don't forget the posts on that day folks, and please nothing nasty.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 08:58 PM

As I said on another thread--"Martin"-it is wonderful how you are uniting people from all over the world.

Raedwulf, me, Foolestroupe, Bobert, Richard Bridge, Don Firth, Benjamin, Ebbie--the list seems to go on forever--we all feel the same about you--"Martin Gibson" (one individual).

It's truly heartwarming.

I suspect I can speak for a whole host of Mudcatters when I say (yet again):

You need treatment. Please get it---soon.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 08:30 PM

I can point you to various rocks where Arabs of this type might be under. Too bad they are scared shitless.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 07:29 PM

Carol:
What made Weizman and Rabin so significant is they witnessed the worst of war and were willing to modify their original beliefs and courses of action. We need more Israelis like that, and we need some Arabs like that, not just the Palestinian Arabs.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 06:23 PM

Interesting article, robomatic.

But in 1981, in "The Battle for Peace," Mr. Weizman vigorously defended the compromises Israel made at Camp David, and sympathetically reported Mr. Sadat's assertion there that the West Bank and Gaza belonged not to Jordan or Israel but to their Palestinian inhabitants.

On this, President Weizman and I agree.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 03:45 PM

Raedwuld said: "No, Martin, you're excrement as always"

Gee, another personal attack allowed by Joe Offer.

Raedwulf, your whole dna is made of excrement from a wild African boar.

I'm not at all claiming I know what non-Jews think. It is though pretty obvious what radical left wingers think, as represented by the article I posted and the support that it's theories are getting here.

---

Maybe so, Martin. Tell you what - I'll be a nice guy and not delete this reply to Raedwulf.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 08:31 AM

I'm tired of the obvious sexist orientation of this whole thread. About time we heard more about Uncle Semitism, the real threat.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 08:24 AM

Re: my post of 18 April mentioning the chemist who influenced the issuing of His Majesty's Government of "The Balfour Declaration". That was Chaim Weizman, who enabled the English to produce badly needed acetone in militarily significant quantities. Weizman went on to become the first President of the State Of Israel. His nephew, Ezer Weizman, a hero of the 1967 War and himself a past President of the State Of Israel, has just passed away.

His obituary which contains a lot of interesting information about Israeli history, appears in the New York Times here .

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Raedwulf
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 04:45 PM

No, Martin, you're excrement as always. And please explain how you justify having opinions about non-Jews when you are so adamant that no non-Jew can have a valid opinion about Jews. Are you a two-faced hypocritical twat? Or do you, perchance, have some smug self-justifying piece of worthless cant that you imagine excuses you from everything that you accuse everyone else of?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 03:49 PM

Yep, Raedwulf. You are a nazi and I am right about this.

Happy Passover.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Raedwulf
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 03:41 PM

Everyone else's bullshit detector lights up practically every time you post, Martin. You are so full of shit, you're just about a recycling industry on your own.

You are not a Jew... These article were written by renegades...

And there we have it. If you're not Jewish, you have no right to have an opinion about Jews (funnily enough, this doesn't stop the loudly self-proclaimed Jew, Martin Gibson, having opinions about everyone else); if you are a Jew but don't agree with Martin's point of view you're a renegade.

Isn't the world a wonderful place? You can be sure of exactly where you stand. You're either Jewish & with Martin (in which case you're right), or you're not (in which case you're wrong).

And now, no doubt, I will be called a Nazi again, because Martin likes that word & is always right...

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 03:04 PM

[bleep - for antisocial behavior]My bullshit detector lights up bbright red when I read posts by Dick Gozinia Davies or Richard Bridge.

I was waiting for the "some of my best friends are Jewish" testimonial from you Bridge.

BTW, for the most part, we are generally caucasian. But not always.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 12:38 PM

Curator, I was not initially criticising you as cartoon Irish, but Tír Eoghain (I cut and pasted the name but the accent does not seem to have come out correctly) who for no obvious reason suddenly started an anti-Brit rant. You posted while I was composing so I can see why it looked as if I was coming back at you. I accept that Cromwell's conquering of Ireland was unjustified, and also that the English committed atrocities in Ireland, but I don't find the methods used to re-create an independent Irish state or to attack the legitimate government of Northern Ireland acceptable.

However, you then started so I returned fire when I could be bothered.

White Hat! (Not white flag).



Gobson, since I was born in Stanmore, educated near North London, and became an entertainment lawyer, I have (obviously) grown up and worked closely with many Jews. From time to time in various situations I have been the religious (or irreligious) minority, and they the majority. I take entirely as I find, and my daughter's first name is a Jewish name. I have no prejudice against Jews (who, incidentally, are a "race" for the purposes of the Race Relations Act), nor against any other race or religion and I don't really see much importance for the inertial observer whether Jews in general prefer to see themselves as a race or a religion. You are the only Jew I have ever heard fuss about the distinction, and certainly one of my friends used to make a big (jocular) thing about her genes being the basis of a real need, any time she wanted to steal the pickle out of my sandwich.

What I do find foolish is the flinging of the charge of racism every time it is suggested that facts might be checked or that Israel or some particular person or persons who are Jewish (by religion or descent) (or any other grouping, come to that) might deserve criticism.

Gobson, you sully everything you endorse.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 11:03 PM

Mark "Martin"--


Anti-Semitism--as from Benjamin, Art Thieme.....or me.

I challenge you to find one anti-Semitic remark from any of the above---as distinguished from( richly deserved) criticism of you---you were aware there is a difference, weren't you?

Perhaps somebody needs to explain it to you, in short words, so you might understand
it. If you can't find anybody else, I'll be glad to do the honors.

Benjamin put it perfectly:

"You do the two guitars that you hold in so much reverence no good advertisement, and you do our people no favors by your filthy and vicious tongue".

I couldn't have said it better.



But I assure you that in fact I'm not in every shadow--you don't have to be afraid.

Sweet dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 05:24 PM

I think his whole act is an attempt to make Anne Coulter notice him.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 05:16 PM

Sorry, moron. Have a Lexus because I work for a living.

Michael Savage is actually pretty entertaining. I don't agree with him on everything but he has some good ideas on why liberalism has been ruining America.

I understand he has a new best seller out on the subject.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 04:57 PM

Martin Gibson's pick up truck

http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/crystalnacht.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 04:53 PM

Michael Savage is a mental disorder.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 03:13 PM

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Monday, January 06, 2003


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Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 03:12 PM

What a riot that you call me this poor guy Rosenmutter.

I'm not him!   I don't live in Evanston.
[bleep - for antisocial behavior]
Davies you are so desparate to put a real name to me you will use ANYthing. What a pathetic moron you are.   What a complete and total asshole you are.

You know what Davies? I think your real name is really Dick Gozinia. so, Dick quit using the name Ron Davies to hide behind because you are obviously Dick Gozinia.

this is hilarious.

The Mudcat anti-semitism continues to pour out from the moron left like Ron (Dick Gozinia) Davies, bobert, and the usual phony Guests.

Richard Bridge is anothe Brit who's has a problem with the Jewish "race" as he calls them.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 01:47 PM

An eye for eye leaves a person half blind.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 01:31 PM

mick , marc made personal attack after personal attack on carol, ebbie, dianavan and others. They were left to remain. That set the tone. Those who chose not to delete them are in no position to tell us how to post.

Subject: A Poem to the NEW Antisemetism
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 11:29 AM

White bread and mayonnaise
'Public Relations' by E. Bernaise
became food and bible for ol' Joseph Goebbles
so people would not have to think.

Instinct and dirty desires
fuel the sleazy TV fires
of shocking abhorrent naked titties while think tanks endlessly repeat their ditties
the rotting corpses lose their stink.

The Republican religious revival
has no Congressional rival
as reported on FOX what's Gored is our ox
whew the Nazis were so rinky dink.

Now their eyes fill with elation
as they view a similar equation
of Final solutions and AIDs evolution
cheering death except for abortion.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 11:23 AM

Is it not clear to you that Rosenmutter putz in drech thrives on this stuff??? Why do you keep feeding him? You are beginning to look as silly as he is sick. Between you folks feeding him, and Offer feeding Shambles, I don't hold much hope for a return to any type of civility on the Mudcat.

Shame, really.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 11:14 AM

Picture explains why Gibson is such an expert on excrement

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Torctgyd
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:44 AM

Guest Allen,

An interesting site on the Khazars.

I was reminded of a study by statisticians who calculated that everyone alive today has a common ancester alive about 2,300 - 2,500 years ago. Therefore everyone in the world today has a semitic ancestor! Everyone who was alive then is either related to everyone who is alive now or is not related to anyone alive today.

I will conceed your point about the meaning of anti-semitism although whoever coined it didn't do a very good job due to its lack of clarity. However the arguments put forward for the definition of anti-semitism fall down with the word anti-semitic. This definitely means against semites and not specific to Jews. (The argument being there is no word semitism so anti-semitism means what the coiner meant it to mean. This is not true of anti-semitic as Hebrew and Arabic, for example, are both semitic languages. So anti-semitic and anti-semitism cannot both be only anti-Jewish).

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Rabbi
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:20 AM

Prayer for Gibson from his Rabbi

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:19 AM

Tony Clifton was Andy Kaufman's alter-ego

Or was Andy Kaufman, Tony Clifton's

Is Rosenmutt's name in that list?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:12 AM

Interesting

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Vinny Victim
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:02 AM

An irishman and a jew walked into a bar, the rest they say is bad grapes

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 07:50 AM

Cool it lads and lasses, Marc sent another pm to me, not just as nice as the one on Tuesday night, he really is extracting the urine. As to Richard (Arnhem) Bridge, why are you coming at me here ? If you want to lock horns, no problem I am up to it.