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Folklore: Odd pub names
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: davyr Date: 08 Apr 08 - 10:14 AM "we can buy Youngs Bitter for less than 30 bob a metric pint" Best of luck to you - the stuff was ruined by the marketing men forcing a recipe change even before the death of John Young and the sell-off of the Ram Brewery. The bottled stuff is still very drinkable, though... I don't think anyone ever answered the question at the start of this thread about the pub called the "Bleeding Wolf" at Scholar Green (which is actually in Cheshire, not Staffordshire, despite its ST postcode). It's just up the road from me, so I can tell you that it got its name from a (probably apocryphal) story about King John being saved from a wounded wolf when he was hunting in the area. Usual stuff about his saviour (an honest woodman) being rewarded with a grant of land, on which the pub was (eventually) built. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,bill S from Perth Date: 08 Apr 08 - 09:47 AM Enjoyed reading again, but forgotten I'd already contributed! There is always the famous honeymooners pub, Cock Inn, Welwyn, Herts (how do you get there? go through Maidenhead and you'll find yourself in Staines) There used to be two pubs in New Hey (check), both called the Bird in Hand, both Sam Smiths known locally as Top Bird and Bottom Bird In case you are worried about ale in Oz we have a couple of dozen pub-breweries in easy reach and we can buy Youngs Bitter for less than 30 bob a metric pint. Pub names tend to be the predictable gimmicky although Little Creatures would be unusual, now their ale is on sale in the UK. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Mr Red Date: 08 Apr 08 - 08:02 AM do bears wear spectacles in the woods? sound a load of crap to me. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Captain Ginger Date: 08 Apr 08 - 07:49 AM The old Daily Mirror pub was officially the White Hart, but everyone called it The Stab, as in the stab in the back and there's also the Cartoonist round behind the old Express building in Fleet Street. I can't think of any with names that are particularly newspaperish however, though there are plenty of pubs around Fleet Street with long and inglorious associations, including The King and Keys (Telegraph), The Punch (Standard), The Harrow (Mail) and the Tipperary (News of the World). |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Bryn Pugh Date: 08 Apr 08 - 07:23 AM I seem to remember 'the Bear and Spectacles' but I'll be damned if I can remember where. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Les from Hull Date: 07 Apr 08 - 10:22 AM Bloody stupid frames! But if you click on 'pubs' in the page you get you might find them! |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Les from Hull Date: 07 Apr 08 - 10:20 AM oops! Editorial And there's a session tonight in the Black Boy |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Les from Hull Date: 07 Apr 08 - 10:15 AM Newspaper themes - in Hull theres the |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Ross Campbell Date: 07 Apr 08 - 12:38 AM The Cat I' Th' Well, Wainstalls, near Halifax, where I occasionallly drank when rambling round the Calder valley, appears to be still in existence. The Drunken Duck between Ambleside and Hawkshead was my first introduction to Lake District pubs. My friends Alan (Jessy Al to any Langdale Festerers out here) and Alison knew the landlord and we had a song and tune session with my guitar and Alan's accordion ("Jessy"). Not sure you could do that now, they like to think of themselves as a restaurant rather than a pub nowadays. Fleetwood's Royal Oak has long been known as "Deadun's". There's a choice of stories as to how it got the name. Further along Lord Street, the "Prince Arthur" was known as "The Bug", while the Fleetwood Arms on Dock Street was known as the "First and Last" because of its position opposite the old dock gates. Blackpool has The Number Four and The Number Three - closer in to the town centre there used to be Numbers Two and One, both long gone. They were originally coaching inns on the then main road into Blackpool from the Garstang/Lancaster direction. Ross |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Gulliver Date: 06 Apr 08 - 02:40 PM To add to the pubs named after horses there's the Bleeding Horse in Camden Street in Dublin, very old, standing as it does at a junction of two ancient routes and mentioned by several writers including Joyce in Ulysses. The battle of Rathmines was fought nearby in the 1640's and it's thought the horse in question may have wandered from the battlefield. Or maybe a toper emerged from the premises to find his horse missing, and exclaimed to the landlord: "Where's me bleedin' horse?" Don |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,Jon Date: 06 Apr 08 - 02:28 PM The Black Boy :-) I can't think one one by that name near me but there are 2 "The Black Boys". |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Dave the Gnome Date: 06 Apr 08 - 01:59 PM Blimey - Thos one has run a lot longer than I thought! There is definitely a Printers Arms in either Radcliffe or Whitefield near me. Sure there must be many others. D. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: HuwG Date: 06 Apr 08 - 12:30 PM Look for the "Printer's Devil" (New Fetter Lane, WC1) higher up this thread. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge Date: 06 Apr 08 - 12:01 PM Pub name with a newspaper theme?. If there aint a pub in Fleet Street or Canary Wharf called "The Reptile" then there blooming well ought to be! What am I like? |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,John from Kemsing Date: 06 Apr 08 - 11:49 AM When the local railway at Cowden was being built here many years ago the workers referred to one of the established pubs as "The Barking Donkey" just to confuse their site supervisors enquiring the whereabouts of the men. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,Charmaine Date: 06 Apr 08 - 11:25 AM Am looking for a pub name with reference to a "Newspaper Theme", can any one help? |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: synbyn Date: 09 Nov 07 - 04:07 AM The High & Dry in East Kent, near the old coalfields, now has a picture of a fishing boat on some shingle... it was called High & Dry after a shaft in the local colliery, which got its name for being so low and wet... |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: eddie1 Date: 09 Nov 07 - 02:50 AM Things may have changed now but back when my guitar was only a flat-backed mandolin, you would find folkies from foreign parts wandering up and down Forrest Road in Edinburgh looking for the famous "Sandy Bells". The pub was actually called "The Forrest Hill Bar" and there was no reference to "Sandy Bells" outside. Sandy Bell was a one-time barman there but his name lingers on. I loved the name of Ronnie Corbetts fictional local. The Rat and Handbag! Eddie |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Bonecruncher Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:09 PM "The Chocolate Poodle", now defunct, was next to the railway bridge at Littleton Pannell, Wiltshire. It was next to the raiway station which served the Cheverells and the Lavingtons (local villages). Colyn. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Snuffy Date: 08 Nov 07 - 12:53 PM And a Monkey House near Pershore, but it only sells cider. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Splott Man Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:55 AM There's a First In Last Out in Pembroke Dock too. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,Lorne's wife Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:27 AM Anyone remember "The Monkey House" and "The Chocolate Poodle" somewhere in the New Forest circa 1980? |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,NickR Date: 08 Nov 07 - 07:29 AM Wow, you do get some long threads on this site - 4 years is pretty good although I think I saw a longer one about the meaning of "Dirty Old Town" which went on for five years. I read all the posts on here and was going to mention the "Same Yet" in Simister and someone got there 11 posts before me - bugger! Well, the other two I can think of are the "Museum" in Moston (not the most scholarly of places) and "Rosins" which is near Darwen. It was called "Old Rosins" when it was just a pub and it has a wonderful address "Treacle Row, Pickup Bank, Hoddleston". According to their website the name comes from a group of fiddlers who played there - and I quote: "The Rosins was built in the late 17th to early 18th century, originally named the Duke of Wellington. Here live music was played in the evenings by a group of fiddlers and the resin used to oil their bows was known as 'rosin', hence the Duke of Wellington became the Old Rosins. To this day an original violin which has been lovingly restored, can be seen as a feature in our 'Rosins' restaurant" They used to have a folk club there, were I once sang back in 1971. A colleague, who was a regular there, told me they always served late because, being out on the moors, they could see the police car headlights long before they got there. Then, a few weeks later he came into work a bit sheepish and told me they'd all got caught one night when the police turned up on horseback! And who says the police don't have a sense of humour? So let's drink to the memory of Rosin the Bow - or is that Beau, I was never sure. Just one other thing, the White Horse in Prestwich is always known affectionately as the "Dirty Donkey" |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Ruth Archer Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:06 PM I live near the Ram Jam and always wondered, so thanks for that. I'd also never heard the story about the Jackson Stops! |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Bert Date: 30 Oct 07 - 05:06 PM There is the Bush, Blackbird and Thrush in East Peckham, Kent. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Raggytash Date: 30 Oct 07 - 04:23 PM There's also a First In, Last Out in Whitby. Coming from the north or west it is indeed the first pub in the town and the last one out. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,strad Date: 30 Oct 07 - 03:45 PM I've drunk in The First In, Last Out on the outskirts of Bath,Somerset and enjoyed a pint in Ye Old Tippling Philosopher somewhere near the Monmouthshire end of the Severn Bridge. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Wincing Devil Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:49 PM Two distinctly MURRICAN names: Roadkill Cafe Dew Drop Inn |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Cavia_P Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:22 PM In Hull, the Polar Bear, and the Eagle (now Tap and Spile) on Spring Bank both allegedly refer to residents of the Zoological gardens. The original Botanic Gardens are now Hymers college grounds, but left their name in the Bottanic pub, Botanic Gardens (formerly Cemetery Gates) railway station and BG Locomotive depot. There's another pub in Hull currently boarded up, named the Whittington and Cat. It's local nick name was the Dick and Pussy. Regards, Cavia_P |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: theleveller Date: 30 Oct 07 - 01:01 PM There are several pubs I know called The Case Is Altered. This comes from a trial during the reign of Elizabeth I…." while defending a gentleman charged with hearing Mass, he (Edmund Plowden) worked out that the service had been performed by a layman for the sole purpose of informing against those present, and exclaimed, "The case is altered; no priest, no Mass", and thus secured an acquittal. This incident has given rise to a common legal proverb: "The case is altered, quoth Plowden". There's a piub in St Martin's Lane, London with two names: The Green Man and French Horn. And there's The Sun In Splendour in Notting Hill. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive) Date: 30 Oct 07 - 11:55 AM There was a Shoulder of Mutton not far from where I grew up in Walsall. People used to call it the Old Ewe's Armpit... Nigel |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: IanC Date: 30 Oct 07 - 10:51 AM This version of the Ram Jam Inn story usually goes something like this ... An 18th Century guest at the inn couldn't pay his bill, so in recompense he offered to show the landlady how she could get two different ales from the one cask. He drilled a hole in a full barrel in the cellar and got her to ram her thumb into the hole to stem the flow. He drilled another in the other side of the barrel and again got her to plug the hole with her other thumb. While she was thus 'jammed' keeping the ale in the barrel, the guest fled, leaving the landlady with an unsettled bill and sore thumbs. The version I had, which is somewhat different, is about two tricksters who performed a rather more elaborate con on the landlord of the pub. :-) Ian |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: theleveller Date: 30 Oct 07 - 10:01 AM Sorry Captain, didn't want to bore people more than usual. Well.....apparantly a chap was drinking there when the landlord had to change a barrel and the bloke offered to help. They went to the cellar and the chap knocked out the bottom bung and beer poured out. He said to the landlord, just ram your finger in there while i get a tap. He then knocked out the top bung and the beer frothed out. He said, just jam another finger in there while I get a spile (or whatever it's called). The landlord did this and while he was thus engaged, the fellow dashed upstairs, took all the takings and made off on the landlord's horse. So there we have it - The Ram Jam Inn. Bet you wished you'd never asked. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Bill S from Adelaide Date: 30 Oct 07 - 09:46 AM I used to drink in the Same Yet near Middleton, the sign painter came to do a repaint and the landlord, when asked what should be painted said "Same yet" ie same again. Amazed no-one has mentioned the Piddle Inn or StPeters Finger in Dorset. We have the Elephant and Wheelbarrow and a couple of Moon and Sixpences in Perth as well as a Durty Nelly's and other gimmicky stuff. Pity about the Smiths Arms in Godmanstone, Herga danced there in 75. We sang the inevitable Dorset is Beautiful and everyone in the place added a couple of verses. Apparently the license was granted on the spot by the King when he stopped at the Smithy and asked for a beer, to be told that there was no license to sell beer. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: The Sandman Date: 30 Oct 07 - 04:33 AM No Idont ,please tell ,as Ihave often wondered.Dick Miles |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: theleveller Date: 30 Oct 07 - 04:26 AM There's a pub in Rutland, just off the A1, called The Jackson Stops. Originally it was called soemthing else but was put up for sale and took so long to sell that people began to use the name of the estate agent (Jackson Stops) on the board outside, as the pub name and it stuck. Wonder how many other pubs are called after an estate agent. Just down the road, on the other side, is the famous Ram Jam Inn - I expect everyone knows the story of that name so won't go ionto it here. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,squirrel Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:39 PM TO MANDOLEER:- "The Mole of Edghill" refers to Joseph Williamson and his scheme to help the unemployed, building a network of tunnels in liverpool just to keep the navies in work the canals and railways were completed |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,squirrel Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:13 PM Theres a pup on wood street, Middleton, nr Manchester called WHO `D` A THOWT IT. Dont know who named the pub or what invention impressed him so |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:27 PM There is Kings arms in Hawkshead if my memory serves me right..If the bar was shut they used to tell you to go down the road to next pub on the left..It was called The Queens Legs and they were allways open..I went and there was no pub on the left..But I was highly amused..
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,Pete Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:19 PM Has anyone mentioned The Shoulder of Mutton and Cucumber yet. It's in West Sussex somewhere I think. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 19 Jun 07 - 04:10 PM One of my colleagues just mentioned a bar he once frequented, in Colorado - "Where The Sun Don't Shine." Obviously, they have no atrium.... |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Splott Man Date: 19 Jun 07 - 02:02 PM There's a Drum & Monkey near Brynmawr too. And a Goose & Cuckoo up in the hills above Llanover. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 19 Jun 07 - 01:43 PM Some of my old favorite spots would include: The Elbow Room Duggan's Yak 'N Snack The End Friar's Tuck The Hole The Jail The Gas Station The Orange Ogre Beelzebub's |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: vectis Date: 19 Jun 07 - 11:25 AM I had quite a few pints at 'The Drum and Monkey' in Ventnor, Isle of Wight when I was a lass. Is it still there I wonder? |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: terrier Date: 18 Jun 07 - 08:04 PM Not an unususl name, but in Liverpool there where Two pubs opposite each other, both had the same name. The Gregsons Well. The one on the right (going into town) was the folk club home of The (Liverpool) Spinners. Both pubs now sadly only memories to an old scouser. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: RTim Date: 18 Jun 07 - 07:43 PM There used to be a pub in Chipping Norton called - The Quiet Woman! Tim Radford |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST Date: 18 Jun 07 - 06:25 PM The Jug and Bottle near Grimsby. Not a particularly odd name, but an interesting history. The pub is built on part of a former RAF heavy bomber base and the particular spot was the dispersal/parking area for a Lancaster bomber which bore the name 'J-Jug and bottle'.
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: Rusty Dobro Date: 28 Apr 07 - 09:37 AM After some of the sad news above ( I have happy memories of the 'Rorty Crankle' and the 'Two Brewers' and didn't know either of them had closed), it's good to see that the Blaxhall 'Ship' has reopened in safe hands, and is now a singers' pub again. The 'Eel's Foot' at Eastbridge is still as good as it ever was, especially on a Thursday 'squit' night. And the 'Low House' (officially the 'King's Head')at Laxfield is a wonderful and unspoilt Adnams pub, though perdition take the appalling landlord who drove out the Tuesday afternoon song sessions. Ipswich had an 'Oyster Reach', which was renamed the 'Ostrich' when the new owners assumed it had been a misspelling - in fact the 'Oyster Reach' was named after a stretch of the nearby river. I'm feeling thirsty now.....a groatsworth of Old and Filthy, please, landlord! |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: The Sandman Date: 28 Apr 07 - 06:48 AM the Three Compasses. |
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Subject: RE: Folklore: Odd pub names From: GUEST,Guest Date: 27 Apr 07 - 01:28 PM I live in Ireland, and in Bantry, one of my nearest towns, is a pub known as The Clinic. The history of this unusual name is that at one time this was a hardware shop at the front, and a bar at the back, so hungover people in need of''the cure'', (or the hair of the dog), could go into the shop and sneak through to the bar at the back before the official opening time! |
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