BS: BS

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: MandolinPaul
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 01:57 PM

This thread is nowhere near as controversial and argumentative as I'd hoped. Come on kids. Let's see some cussin' and spittin'.

OK, I'll start:

Aine (and I make no apology for my lack of keyboarding knowledge to accent your name correctly), you are the whiniest, tittiest baby of them all.

Liam, perhaps I wasn't specific enough in my original posting. Since nothing is fun unless someone is excluded, I had no intention of reading through whatever useless tripe you chose to type. So shut your hole.

... and Sophie and Bill, your opinions are as poorly expressed as they are uninformed. Piss off!

Aaaaaaaahhh!

Paul

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: JedMarum
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 12:12 PM

I think it's easy enough to dispense with the prefix. Most threads are named appropriately and conatin enough info in the title to give the reader an idea if they are interested or not.

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: Áine
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:52 AM

I posted the message below earlier today on the 'Pills to Purge Melancholy' thread; however, I think it is more appropriately posted here. Forgive me for my redundancy, I just happen to love James Joyce.

And Paul, you can assume your own esteem with me anytime!

-- Áine

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This Thanksgiving holiday, I picked up my dog-eared copy of 'The Dubliners' by James Joyce and flipped to one of my favorite stories therein, 'The Dead'. I was amazed to find how relevant several bits of this story were to the things that have been discussed on this forum before and especially to the turn that this thread has taken. Below is a particularly relevant part which I hope you all will digest (along with all that leftover turkey). And to those who are not familiar with Joyce, this was originally published in 1916, which makes me consider the old addage, 'The more things change, the more they stay the same':

'A new generation is growing up in our midst, a generation actuated by new ideas and new principles. It is serious and enthusiastic for these new ideas and its enthusiasm, even when it is misdirected, is, I believe, in the main sincere. But we are living in a sceptical and, if I may use the phrase, a thought-tormented age: and sometimes I fear that this new generation, educated or hypereducated as it is, will lack those qualities of humanity, of hospitality, of kindly humour which belonged to an older day. Listening tonight to the names of all those great singers of the past it seemed to me, I must confess, that we were living in a less spacious age. Those days might, without exaggeration, be called spacious days: and if they are gone beyond recall let us hope, at least, that in gatherings such as this we shall still speak of them with pride and affection, still cherish in our hearts the memory of those dead and gone great ones whose fame the world will not willingly let die.' . . .

'But yet,' . . . 'there are always in gatherings such as this sadder thoughts that will recur to our minds: thoughts of the past, of youth, of changes, of absent faces that we miss here tonight. Our path through life is strewn with many such sad memories: and were we to brood upon them always we could not find the heart to go on bravely with our work among the living. We have all of us living duties and living affections which claim, and rightly claim, our strenuous endeavours.

'Therefore, I will not linger on the past. I will not let any gloomy moralising intrude upon us here tonight. Here we are gathered together for a brief moment from the bustle and rush of our everyday routine. We are met here as friends, in the spirit of good-fellowship, as colleagues, also to a certain extent, in the true spirit of camaraderie . . . .'

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: Paul S
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:51 AM

This is a BS thread Bill. You're not allowed to discuss philosophy; that sometimes relates to music.

Paul

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:48 AM

ah, NOW we're getting to my area of expertese...meta-BS or BS^BS ...I knew that all those hours in Philosophy would come in handy...

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: sophocleese
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:43 AM

Good idea Paul, a to BS or not to BS thread, a bitch session on bullshit. I like your point about getting tired of reading through the argument over and over again. It is getting monotonous and its creating more bad will than solving anything. The BS may not drive people away but the persistent arguments over it will.

Subject: RE: BS: BS
From: bbc
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:35 AM

Here's my opinion, stated once before, I believe, &, hopefully, here for the last time--Being, perhaps, somewhat immodest, I don't think of the things I say as BS, but they are, sometimes, not directly related to musical topics. If I were to prefix, I'd prefer NM (non-musical) to BS. I have no problem picking & choosing among the threads & I find various ones of interest.

bbc

Subject: BS
From: Paul S
Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:30 AM

It seems that nobody can create a thread that doesn't directly relate to the finer points of music, without being attacked for not using the BS prefix. Many a thread that should have, or would have, died an early death has been extended to ridiculous lengths with people arguing "fer or agin" BS (yes, I'm guilty of this too). I would like to suggest some options:

1. Get over it. While much of the BS doesn't interest me either, not everybody shares the same interests. People will talk about unrelated topics no matter where they are.

2. I would like to offer up this thread as a forum for all future arguments about BS, so that I can read through other threads without having to read the same shit over again.

3. In this day and age, it's pretty easy to start up your own website, complete with message board or mailing list. Once you have your own website, you may dictate what is discussed.

Paul

PS: To quote another esteemed Mudcatter (there I go assuming my own esteem), "You're all a bunch of whiney titty-babies".