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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GerryM Date: 29 May 23 - 08:09 PM Here's a recording by Ecopella of Coal Seam Gas: https://miguelheatwole.bandcamp.com/track/when-coal-seam-gas-was-new |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GerryM Date: 29 May 23 - 07:59 PM Found it! When Coal Seam Gas Was New, written by John Spencer and Paul Spencer, 2012, to the tune of When Jones' Ale Was New. Lyrics available at http://www.ecopella.org/whencsgwasnew.htm and recording somewhere else at that site. |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GerryM Date: 29 May 23 - 07:49 PM The parody, I think Ecopella sing it, I associate it with Miguel Heatwole, maybe Paul Spencer wrote it. |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST Date: 29 May 23 - 09:24 AM it is an old trad song |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Daniel Kelly Date: 29 May 23 - 07:44 AM Hi Canberra Chris, Reviving this very old thread as Pat and Arminel sang a parody of 'Jones's Ale Was New' at Murrumbateman last night on the topic of fracking. You don't happen to know if this was a shiny bums song, or if it might be in a songbook somewhere? (Daniel from Yass) |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 13 Jun 07 - 09:12 AM I've seen the Bude pics, so I might just contact Kerry. sandra |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST Date: 13 Jun 07 - 08:11 AM Yes, Sandra, some photos are up on the Bude-Stratton Festival thread, plenty more were taken by others and will no doubt emerge as we do! Kerry took video as well. He should be back by now. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 13 Jun 07 - 03:25 AM thanks for the report, Chris. I hope you have lotsa' pictures, too. see ya September, if not before sandra |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: growler Date: 12 Jun 07 - 05:20 PM Chris We had a great time. Now we know what you do, it will be alot easier to arrange gigs, should you chose to repeat the tour. It was great to be involved with something totally different. The gig in the Good Intent was something special. Good Luck and thanks again Simon |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST,Canberra Chris Date: 12 Jun 07 - 09:27 AM Sandra asked for more info on the tour, I tried this a couple of days ago but lost it in transmission, so starting again. The gigs were: 22 May National School of Government in Sunningdale Berkshire 23 May Met Office in Exeter Devon 25 May Opening concert Bude-Stratton Folk Festival in Cornwall 27 May Good Intent pub in Rochester Kent 29 May Surrey County Council in Kingston SW of London 30 May Department for Transport in Westminster There were also a couple of brief unscheduled performances by some of us on request, including at the YHA in Tintagel Cornwall, and at Herga Folk Club in Pinner NW of London. The six venues were concentrated into an eight day period, also involving a lot of travel. As we had no other gigs arranged for after 30 May, we ended then with 'mission accomplished'. Some have returned, I leave on 16th, two at the end of June. The tour party was Pat and Arminel Ryan, David Meyers, Kerry Kennedy and myself Chris Clarke, out of a full Shiny Bum group of fifteen. WE had selected 25 songs for the tour, and modified some of them for UK and the smaller tour group. The venues varied greatly, which was fun for us, from public service conference facilities and open interior spaces, to a grand historic hall, and historic and more recent pub bars. Sets varied from separate five song brackets to an hour broken up with some discussion and in one case a choir joining us. The events varied also from formalish concerts to more public or workshoppy presentations, and a wild pub session. We seemed to be very well received everywhere, with feedback that the show was seen as funny and different. No-one knew quite what to expect (Oz stereotypes persist), so those who put us on were gambling, and some had to work very hard to get our gigs to happen, so thanks to them are due, and to others who supported the concept, including Mudcatters Herga Kitty, Growler, Melodeonboy, Richard Bridge, Hawker, Sandra in Sydney, George Papavgeris, Cloudstreet and others who responded with good advice or local support, and to our friends in high places in the Oz public service for letters of support. I would like to mention the Met Office Choir in Exeter, who were sent four of our songs set with choral arrangements a few weeks before our gig there, and sang four of them in our concerts there very well, including their refinement of the difficult Evacuation Serenade song, which was encored. To hear UK 'shiny bums' singing our songs was special. On the practical side for any other first time touring groups, it is obviously most helpful to have the whole itinerary known well in advance of arrival - some gigs were confirmed or set up just before or after our arrival, which led to a lot of arrangements being made on the run. Accommodation with rehearsal space was also crucial especially in the first days. While we had originally wanted more gigs, six including doubles in eight days with travel proved stretchy - we had eight different accommodation arrangements over the 12 days we were together. The work we did before and after arrival on the material and then individual gigs was also crucial, as convenient preparation opportunity on the road was often at the mercy of circumstance. Communications and access to IT support were also an issue. Internet access for organising accommodation, route navigation and gig communications as well as individual needs, and in our case IT access for processing our visual presentations and recordings, required a constant chase after facilities, as internet cafes were unexpectedly rare. Take a laptop. Those are just a few immediately obvious things to me at this stage, to pass on. Thanks to everyone who helped to overcome all obstacles and make it a success. We are well aware it was really a tour by a few Shiny Bums plus many others at both ends. It was lovely to meet so many Mudcatters on the tour. I should mention the Mudcat Cafe itself through which so much of the tour was organised. And thanks to our audiences who were so generous in their appreciation and encouragement. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST,Canberra Chris Date: 05 Jun 07 - 07:56 PM Sandra - I will attempt to meet your request for a fuller report when I get some more computer time at a civilised hour. Branno - great to hear from you, mate, your spirit was over here with us while you slept - astral travel broadens the mind. I'll have to explain Spencer the Grey Nomad later. Kitty - lovely to hear you sing at last at Herga, and a treat to hear a second voice do Kitty Kane and the additional (original) verse which Margaret Walters also included at a session at the National at Easter. That song just breaks me up. Nessie - thanks for the kind words. I was delighted to hear a Greek song from George at Herga, though he was snookered behind he pillar. He has bouzouki-tuned that guitar hasn't he? I listen to Greek folk songs, and his delivery to me of all his songs is distinctly Greek, as it should be. Hawker - thanks for the photos and captions. Still sorry we had to miss the rest of the festival, glad it went so well. Cheers, Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Herga Kitty Date: 05 Jun 07 - 04:11 PM Sandra - I had a really nice e-mail from Chris, saying "We loved the reception we had from your colleagues, and it was a lovely relaxed atmosphere to end on, and the sort of informal approach we would have preferred everywhere really. They were also the only civil service audience who did sing along." The Bude thread has a link to pictures of the Shiny Bums posted by Hawker http://www.flickr.com/photos/45752049@N00/ Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Nessie Date: 05 Jun 07 - 09:27 AM Well I seriously hope the Bums are planning their 2008 tour, because we love 'em!! They're such a lovely, friendly bunch, and their besuited take on office life is unique. I'd love to see the reaction they get in a business environment, but they're at home in folk. George & I caught their second half at Bude/Stratton and they had us all howling with laughter! 'Request from a Contituent' went down well (more Rolf Harris parodies for the UK please?!)and The Ten Meg Morris was sublime. We were treated to several songs including Daggy Suit & Can't Take My Hands Off Of You last night at Herga, along with solo spots from Dave and Chris, who did a superb new song written between Singapore and London Thanks guys, & Arminel! |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 05 Jun 07 - 12:42 AM tell us more! (please) Seriously but, I've not had enough info on the tour - a mere mention here & there that they appeared somewhere & were great (which I know anyway, being their No. 1 fan.) sandra |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Herga Kitty Date: 04 Jun 07 - 06:27 PM Thanks to Chris, Dave and Kerry for your visit to the Herga folk club this evening, even if it blew away my plans for a quiet night in to recover from the Pennymoor Song and Ale... Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Richard Bridge Date: 26 May 07 - 09:32 PM No. The bar in Dickensworld. I was today asked by the Managing Director if anyone wanted to do some casual folking there over the next few days, and if the Bums were so minded I might be able to discuss a fee (probably not big by "performing artist" standards) with him. The admittedly mock ambience of the venue is good, and a regular weekly slot might be on the cards (but I don't want to be running it). I have four slight reservations about a regular do there: 1. We'd probably get "bumped" if a bigger/better thing was on on any particular evening 2. Most people in there today seemed a cut above the usual foul and vulgar C(h)atamite - but wil it last? 3. Would it compete with and harm the existing local things - the Good Intent and the 3 in Rainham? 4. The "draught" beers on are keg (but do include Shitfire), although there is bottled Shitfire and bottled Summer Goldings and a range of crap like lagers - and the prices are TOP pub prices, over 3 quid for said bottles. Let's all discuss it at the Good Intent tomorrow. I can snooze into my beer in conseqence of this 0230 insomnia... |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: melodeonboy Date: 26 May 07 - 06:13 PM Are you thinking of The Greyhound, Richard? |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Richard Bridge Date: 26 May 07 - 04:28 PM Hey bums Bored on teh 28th (the Monday)? I might be able to fix something..... |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST,Branno Date: 23 May 07 - 09:43 AM G'day Chris. Sounds like a lot of fun so far (and memory lane)Enjoy th'self. love Spencer the Grey Nomad btw All you pommie 'catters who catch the Bums will enjoy them (take that any way you want!) cheers Dave |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Herga Kitty Date: 22 May 07 - 03:58 PM The 30 May performance at the Department for Transport is at lunchtime - I don't know whether the Bums can cope with being Mobbed later..... they are supposed to be on holiday, I think! Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 21 May 07 - 08:51 PM Chris's post 18th may (top of this page) Our progrsm is National School of Government in Sunningdale 22 May, Met Office in Exeter 23 May, Bude Folk Festival 25 May, Good Intent Rochester 27 May, Dept for Transport 30 May, and possibly Surrey County Council Kingston 29 or 31 May. Chris .................. post from 21st May Additional news is that performance on 29 May is confirmed for Surrey County Council staff at County Hall in Kingston. ................. don't miss 'em! sandra |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 May 07 - 07:22 PM To coin a phrase "Bugger That". Which might of course cause a shiny arse. Is there a list for the whole of this tour? Is anything in for Weds 30? If not, FolkMob ought really to step up to the plate.... |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 21 May 07 - 07:09 PM One of the Google ads below this thread has been replaced. They (whoever they are) have now decided that 'A Capella Music - amazing edgy vocal quartet' & 'Psalm 23 download' are what the readers of this thread will read!! sandra (who never reads Google ads) |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 May 07 - 06:56 PM 1. Why google that? 2. I am reminded that when my late wife, Jacqui, our son's friend Royston, and I, first hit the folkclubs of north Kent (RogertheChorister) we were promptly dubbed "the ShinyArses") by the now defunct Oast folk club in Rainham, Kent, because we were all middle class (bit of an insult that of a lawyer, moi!) with desk jobs. |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 21 May 07 - 07:51 AM Gidday, Chris Maybe the 2000 post I quoted was just the first reference to the Bums (Bottoms?)on Mudcat! This Public Service jolly of yours is getting bigger & better! Keep up the good work, & don't forget we need daily reports of your progress. sandra why oh why has Google decided that ads for Christian Music (Your guide to Christian Music) & Free Psalm 23 download (Download the Psalm of the ...) fit this thread? |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST,Canberra Chris Date: 21 May 07 - 07:21 AM The assembled Bums are at the excellent internet facilities at Theale library, near Reading. Additional news is that performance on 29 May is confirmed for Surrey County Council staff at County Hall in Kingston. Regarding discussion of Toast Song above, the first Australian to take the song to UK was Helen Wright, who asked for the words for that purpose in 1998, when I had been so generously invited to join on stage to peform it 'The Living Tradition' lineup of Queensland worthies. The Mudcat request may of course have come later from Lynne Stone. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Bob Bolton Date: 19 May 07 - 01:07 AM G'day freda, "Regards Baz" ... that was Sandra quoting from the 2000 posting. I loved the: "I think the author was a guy who's last name is Clarke and he sings with ?? The Shiny Bottom Band"! Regard(les)s, Bob |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Herga Kitty Date: 18 May 07 - 03:03 PM Just testing whether I've got my cookie back! Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST Date: 18 May 07 - 02:49 PM I think it would have been Pat and Arminel singing the Filing Song - if so, I'm glad to hear they did get to Sharps on Tuesday. I also seem to remember that it was Lynne I first heard singing the Toast Song. Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: freda underhill Date: 18 May 07 - 11:40 AM that's Canberra Chris you're after Baz, and what better time to track him down.. Rosie Wells told me two SBs rolled up at Sharp's this week, and sang the Filing Song... so they are about! freda |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 May 07 - 10:07 AM Gidday, Chris Looks great, good thing they waived the fine, it would have eaten into The Shiny Bum Extravaganza Tour profits! Have fun & don't forget to review the concerts. sandra .............. FYI - first mention of The Toast Song on Mudcat in 2000, when Lynne Stone brought it to Britain! An Australian lady came to the folk club last night and sang two songs one of which was a parody of Both Sides Now and was about the singers failure in making toast. It had the audience roaring with laughter. I think the author was a guy who's last name is Clarke and he sings with ?? The Shiny Bottom Band. I'd love the words if anyone has them. Regards Baz |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST,Canberra Chris Date: 18 May 07 - 09:34 AM Sorry for the blanks, I am trying a public library computer set up with huge print keys, and 'enter' where I usually hit shift. I am where I borrowed books as a child in Sunninghill village, Kerry Kennedy of the Bums is on the next machine, having arived at 5 this morning. Tomorrow he will have no recollection of touring Windsor Castle. I was expecting a £30,000 fine for a book I failed to return in 1964, but they let me off. Our progrsm is National School of Government in Sunningdale 22 May, Met Office in Exeter 23 May, Bude Folk Festival 25 May, Good Intent Rochester 27 May, Dept for Transport 30 May, and possibly Surrey County Council Kingston 29 or 31 May. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: growler Date: 17 May 07 - 05:17 PM Chris stayed with us, last Friday and kindly donated a CD. Come and join us next Sunday 27th at the Good Intent, and see what you are missing |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 17 May 07 - 05:09 AM Kitty - first mention of The Shiny Bums in UK back in 2000 sandra (owner of the copy of the song referred to!) |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: GUEST,Growler Date: 17 May 07 - 03:36 AM And at the Good Intent Rochester on the 27th |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Richard Atkins Date: 16 May 07 - 08:32 PM Will see them at Bude then. |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: George Papavgeris Date: 16 May 07 - 08:24 PM I used to be a leg man, but I am willing to be converted... |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 16 May 07 - 07:08 PM Peter Shergold is the Bum's no. 1 fan (in Canberra, I hasten to add cos I'm their no. 1 fan in Sydney) sandra yay! my Firefox upgrade means I have automatic spellchecking here (& spellcheck does not like the word "spellcheck") |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Herga Kitty Date: 16 May 07 - 05:54 PM PS and in the course of corresponding with Canberra Chris, he has told me that his mother was born in the road where I now live, so that just shows what a small planet we live on! Kitty No, sorry, not born in the road. Born in a house further down the road I live in... |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Herga Kitty Date: 16 May 07 - 05:49 PM We English Shiny Bums are having great fun with this. The Oz Shiny Bum Singers (well, the 5 who are making it over to England) will be performing at the National School of Government in Sunningdale, the Met Office in Exeter, and the Department for Transport in Westminster, as well as Bude festival and the Rochester Good Intent. Advance publicity for the SBS performance at the Department for Transport was published today in our internal bulletin (the first time the word "bum" has appeared in our internal bulletin, we think), and despite a letter of introduction from the Head of the Australian Public Service, and support from the DfT's new Permanent Secretary, some people are still nervous that this is a leg-pull. The Head of the Australian Public Service is Peter Shergold (an English immigrant), but we haven't traced a Bampton connection yet. Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Georgiansilver Date: 16 May 07 - 05:32 PM Shiny Bum Singers...obviously 'polished' performers eh? |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Girl Friday Date: 16 May 07 - 05:22 PM We are really looking forward to this gig. You sound our type of chappies. We being Tone Deaf Leopard. |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Canberra Chris Date: 13 Nov 06 - 04:22 PM Yes Growler, I thought it might be pub after looking at some of your thread topics! Silly of me not to guess from the mention of Kent. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: growler Date: 12 Nov 06 - 05:12 PM Sorry, I meant pub venue, it goes with being grizzled, |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Canberra Chris Date: 12 Nov 06 - 04:04 PM Simon, Thanks Growler, sounds great. I'll PM you about details. Putting up a larger group helps a lot with our tour costs, so we are happy with billeting offers. That goes for any others out there. I'm not sure what a pup venue is, but 'Growler' does sound appropriately like an old dog! My guess is you are a grizzled veteran nurturing new talent? If so, that's terrific. We can offer encouragement as a true story of a new group of first-time performers in 1999 that became a legend on its first gig. The group and act were put together in two months, started with a sell-out and spotted our first empty seat after three years (it had a broken leg). We also have groups within the group now who do other stuff. Look forward to it. Happy to hear from anyone else. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: growler Date: 09 Nov 06 - 04:53 PM I am involved with several pup venues in Kent. We havn't got any money, but, between us could probably put you up ay no cost, for a gig Simon |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Canberra Chris Date: 09 Nov 06 - 03:59 PM Hi Charlie - fond memories of the James Craig shanty session, and of the Loaded Dog with yourself and Brett., whose threads are a modern Samuel Pepys diary. Hope one day you both manage the South East Passage again to down under. Rowan - the keys are of course hollow and the real plot is to smuggle back out the Ashes, after a diversionary performance in the Long Room at Lords. As Sandra says, we did purloin a whole reel of genuine red tape, which bundles up our song books - 150 songs satirising bureaucracy from the inside, including appropriately: Red Tape As I passed my Branch Head's office She was praying in trance, "Please send me some scarlet ribbons Lovely red tape for my grants. "Send me endless regulations, Long delays, catch-22s, Let no Ministerial whiteboard Short-cut process, jump the queues." All the legislative drafters Had gone home to feed their kids, And the team designing guidelines Wouldn't work late, not for quids. Searched all night, my heart was aching - Just before the dawn was breaking I peeped in and there they lay As though from costumes for a dance, Lovely ribbons, scarlet ribbons, Lovely red tape for her grants. If I live to be a Branch Head I won;t know from where by chance Came those ribbons, scarlet ribbons, Lovely red tape for her grants. Which we will happily sing for you in any UK workplace or folk club that cares to have us drop by. Chris |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 07 Nov 06 - 06:48 AM the Bums have a huge roll of red tape - maybe 1000 yds, so they are unlikely to run out! Well, it might be a bit less as they use it to wrap their books. |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Rowan Date: 07 Nov 06 - 01:43 AM I'm sure the Poms will be able to supply lots of red tape if you run out. And don't forget the OverHead Projector! How will you explain 10 dead PC keyboards to Customs? Have a great tour! Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: Shiny Bum Singers in S of England 2007 From: Charley Noble Date: 06 Nov 06 - 08:47 PM Chris- Happy to hear you are alive and well in England. The last time I was honored to meet you was aboard the James Craig where you were indulging in sea shanties, and had signed up for an actual sailing voyage. Good luck on the tour! Give 'em hell! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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