BS: KFC Steal the dictionary

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Dave Masterson
Date: 31 May 07 - 03:53 AM

Says more than any lawyer

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 May 07 - 11:48 PM

A king burgher? Unlikely mix of a royal and a commoner.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Joe_F
Date: 30 May 07 - 09:32 PM

On a trip to Quebec City a few years ago, I was pleased to see that KFC had translated itself to PFK. After that, I was hoping for a Roi-Bourgeois, but alas, it had kept its Yankee name.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 May 07 - 12:58 PM

What the doctor says to the nurse after a bloody one.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Mr Happy
Date: 30 May 07 - 12:41 PM

........or is webbed fingers caused by overuse of the internet?

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 May 07 - 02:14 PM

Disney does not control the Mountie image. Nelson Eddy and Jeanette MacDonald tore it up many years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Mr Happy
Date: 16 May 07 - 10:07 AM

"finger-linkin' good"??

Would that be a side effect?

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 15 May 07 - 04:12 AM

Laszlo Biro, a Hungarian Jew, invented the Biro (pronounced "by roe" in English). Had he not had to flee the Nazis, he would have made a Bill Gates style fortune, but instead had to flee to Argentina. He sold Biros to the Royal Air Force, which is probably why the name stuck in England. A Frenchman, Marcel Bich, bought his French patent and produced them under the Bic trade name. Presumably he was fed up of people calling him Biche, which is the meaning of what a lot of people call dried- up biros. It's a good job Dean Koontz didn't make them.

What happened to Macfisheries, who had Mac things long before the other lot had Mc things?

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: HuwG
Date: 14 May 07 - 08:30 PM

Many years ago, Warner Brothers (who had produced the film, "Casablanca" attempted to stop the Marx brothers making a film called "A Night in Casablanca". Groucho versus lawyers ? No contest. He wrote back threatening to counter-sue. He pointed out that, "While you probably have the right to call yourselves, 'Warner', since we were known as the 'Marx Brothers' before you were established, your use of 'Brothers' renders you liable to action."

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KFC attracted bad publicity for themselves in Glossop (Derbyshire, UK) by putting advertising signs on an antique shop and other properties, with the owners' (paid) consent but without planning permission. The awful scarlet signs on the neutral Peak District stone looked meretricious and tacky. Within days, they were removed (under threat of the KFC drive-through being closed).

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 14 May 07 - 05:22 PM

Well, I think we can draw a veil over that one.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Gurney
Date: 14 May 07 - 05:12 PM

Geoff, here in NZ and I believe in Oz too, it is jocularly known, in some circles, as Kentucky Fucked Duck.

Honestly.   Really.   Truly.    No kidding.   I think you ought to know that.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: GUEST,Edourd
Date: 14 May 07 - 04:08 PM

Is it true that Walt Disney manages the image of the Canadian RCMP Mountie?

PEI's Anne of Green Gables I believe is an registered trademark.

There was an unsuccessful attempt to control the name Bluenose, by Canada's Nova Scotia Bluenose ship foundation.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 14 May 07 - 08:34 AM

A friend of mine, Roger Sutcliffe is a blues guitarist and singer. One of his records is entitled Under the Rubber Eagle. He has spent a lot of time over the years playing in Germany. Apparently when touring, a lot of food was from fast food outlets. The locals had re-named the popular fast food rubber eagle (gummi adler).
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: frogprince
Date: 13 May 07 - 10:19 PM

A year or two back a new cable channel was announced as the "Spike" channel. Movie director Spike Lee sued for infringement. I think the news indicated that someone actually granted him a temporary injunction; why a judge would do anything but laugh is beyond me.

I'm still not sure that it wasn't set up as pre-launch publicity for the channel.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Rowan
Date: 13 May 07 - 09:51 PM

Believe him

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 May 07 - 08:16 PM

Everything about Biro ® :
BIRO

My illegal alien tells me that a 'biro' is a European BIC®; but I don't know whether to believe him or not.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Rowan
Date: 13 May 07 - 06:38 PM

When was the last time you used a Biro?

Johnson & Johnson still get exercised when someone refers to "bandaid solutions" as they think it's a slur.

"Slur" should have been protected so it's musical guise shouldn't be sullied by connections to bandaid solutions.

One could Google a lot of these but I'm told that Google is most upset that people wish to use their brand name as a verb instead of a brand name.

Perhaps they'd prefer us to go back to ballpoints.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Alice
Date: 13 May 07 - 10:54 AM

Q, I don't think the state of Montana cares to sue over the cookhouse name... it is great promotion for Montana!
I think it is funny that there are no Montana Cookhouse restaurants in Montana.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 May 07 - 09:16 AM

What the public likes most is laziness and fashion.

The public likes gas guzzling SUV's.

Katrina and the next big one seem to be a million miles away from being connected to profligacy.

Dream on Chelsea Tractor drivers. History will judge you.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 May 07 - 07:05 AM

... unless perhaps you were commenting on their material

Fooles Troupe Scribe...

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 May 07 - 06:59 AM

Tripe? Tripe!!!!

hmmmm..... wonder if a certain 'cloudy' parody ever gor rpinted out and passed on..

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 May 07 - 04:37 AM

Sorry dear... didn't see the spelling error due to mouse arrow being on top of it... FoolesTROUPE!!!

Although, now you mention it....

LTS (ducking and running for cover!)

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 May 07 - 04:26 AM

I think Foolestripe meant 'hoover' rather than vacuum. One can vacuum a carpet with a Dyson cleaner, but cannot 'hoover' with a Dyson as it becomes 'dysoning'.

And on that note, I have to go and Dyson my Axminsters.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 May 07 - 01:23 AM

Vacuum, Latin in vacuo, cannot be trademarked or patented unless it is combined uniquely with some word.
A Chinese firm tried to trademark 'vacuum packed mattress,' but it was not accepted by the U. S.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 May 07 - 01:06 AM

Bayer Aspirin (registered trademark) is protected in the United States and Canada. So are Kleenex, Kotex, and many others.
Other brands must use different names (Acetylsalicylic acid is the generic name for Aspirin) and tissue brands other than Kleenex have names like Scotties, etc.).

The fact that the public uses 'Aspirin' and 'Kleenex' and 'Kotex' and other registered trademark names is to the good for the trademark holders, although generics and other trademarked brands may be cheaper. Another one is 'Tylenol'; the generic name is acetominophen.
Many people will buy only Aspirin or Tylenol, etc., and believe that generics are inferior.
In Santa Barbara, California, I chanced to enter a drugstore that handled no generics. I had to buy Tylenol, not a generic acetominophen.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 May 07 - 12:54 AM

vacuum.... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 May 07 - 12:07 AM

I'm not sure what "jealousy of success" means but the idea behind copywrite and trademark is an old one, one justified financially.

Manufacturers and organizations know well what happens when they don't defend their marks.
Like 'aspirin', 'kleenex', 'zerox', 'wellington's, and hosts of other common items that each and every one used to refer only to the one product.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 May 07 - 11:52 PM

Fashion!
Montana's Cookhouse Saloon is a rather popular place here. They used to have a few items of clothing for sale. One was a well-made barn coat with leather collar; the price was low and I bought one. Embroidered across the back is "Montana's Cookhouse Saloon."
The chain is Canadian but the state of Montana hasn't sued yet.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 May 07 - 11:32 PM

You can claim a copyright on ANYTHING! This includes the bible, the letter "e" or the Declaration of Independence. Won't do you any good unless you can defend it in court.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Alice
Date: 12 May 07 - 10:12 PM

A few years back, the fashion designer Montana tried to stop businesses in the state of Montana from naming things Montana! He lost.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Rowan
Date: 12 May 07 - 09:16 PM

Indeed. Although there has been a lovely story about Ugg boots where the septics lost out (to use some of the common colloquialisms) to "the little Aussie battler". I forget all the byzantine story but someone (certainly Australian) took Ugg boots to the US and, when they became popular, sold what they thought was a proprietary name to the Americans. The company that bought the name decided to be a bit agressively dog in the manger about it and, successfully, shut out other competitors in the US.

Enter the internet. Some family business that has been making Ugg boots in WA (that's Western Oz for those of you between the Atlantic and Pacific) since Adam was in nappies advertised their wares on their web page and the Americans decided to prosecute in Australia as well.

After it was demonstrated that people had been making them and calling them "Ugg Boots" (in print as well as orally) before the original product was available in the US the US company still decided to come the raw prawn. A High Court decision told them to rack off as far as exercising control over the name in Oz was concerned and the family company in Oz came out ahead with all the publicity on the internet. ["Americans" don't enjoy universal acclaim because of such behaviour but, there you go; you can't win them all.] A similar family company making and selling them in the US, however, was in deep strife still when I last heard about it all.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 May 07 - 08:50 PM

"the US through WTO has been getting other nations (such as South Korea) to change their IP rights laws to be in line with US laws.."

scored a home run with Australia recently...

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 12 May 07 - 08:25 PM

English translation:

    And those people should not be listened to who keep saying the voice of the people is the voice of God, since the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 May 07 - 05:40 PM

'Family Feast' is trademarked in the States by "Family Feast."

http://www.the family feast.com
Family Feast

Similar service in my city offered by "Mise en place."

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Big Phil
Date: 12 May 07 - 04:52 PM

Thinking of visiting the Tan Hill tommorrow for Sunday lunch. will post back regarding the quality of food, KFC / Tan Hill Pub.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 May 07 - 02:17 PM

or should it be- Vox populi, vox Dei.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 07 - 09:52 AM

but these large companies are successful because the public likes them

Of course you could have said the same thing about Hitler. No, I'm not saying that Hitler and "these large companies" are the same thing, just that popularity doesn't mean something is admirable. Vox populi non est vox dei.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Peace
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:24 PM

Could there then be spurious litigation secondary areas of economic dependency such as nail polish producers, emory board manufacturers and doctors whose income is deleteriously affected by a drop in patient numbers from 120 to 115 per hour?

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 11 May 07 - 04:30 PM

finger-linkin' good could lead to a class action suit from yeople who got sick from lickin their fingers, encouraged by KFC

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Peace
Date: 11 May 07 - 02:37 PM

LOL, Q. Indeed what!

I pooched it.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 11 May 07 - 02:22 PM

the interesting thing about IP rights - INtellectual property rights is that the US through WTO has been getting other nations (such as South Korea) to change their IP rights laws to be in line with US laws..
(since those who stand to lose the most would be the big pharmaceutical companies and media conglomerates)
HOwever, when it comes to other countries having labour and environmental standards at the level of western developed nations, is another story..

The real issue is who benefits the most..

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 May 07 - 01:05 PM

Call them pigs if you like, but these large companies are successful because the public likes them and shops (or eats) at them.
KFC serves 8 million customers daily, in 80 countries. There are 11,000 franchises.
In all, Yum! Brands Inc., of which KFC is a part, has 32,000 restaurants in 100 countries.
Yes, jealousy of success is behind most complaints about them.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:44 PM

But a very well-off pig, you admit....


A

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: dianavan
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:30 PM

Jealous of KFC, McDonald's and Wal-Mart? I doubt it. Thats like being jealous of a pig.

Harrod's is another story.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:23 PM

What has 'Golden Arches' to do with KFC?
Golden Arches refers to McDonald's.

A suit between those two companies would be a windfall to the law profession?

Jealousy toward success is behind most of the stories about KFC, McDonald's, Wal-Mart, etc., and, in the case of Harrod's, bigotry.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 May 07 - 11:48 AM

Yes, but what other food outlet provides you with a bucket to puke it up into afterwards?

LTS
















Yes, I know it's old.... so am I today.

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Peace
Date: 11 May 07 - 09:34 AM

The Golden Arches will get nowhere with a suit of that sort. Defense counsel would have them prove that indeed their 'Family Feast' is both food fit for a family and of sufficient variety and quantity as to be a feast.

Round 2 . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 May 07 - 09:21 AM

Isn't bullying behaviour like this some kind of criminal offence?

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 May 07 - 07:31 AM

I wonder if the state or the company have ever tried to sue this bloke or any of the other blokes with the same name?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: KFC Steal the dictionary
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:25 AM

didn't KFC try to bully the fish shop in Kent Rd somewheres? Kent Lucky Fried Chicken?

I always refer to them as Kent yukky Fried