BS: (Senator Barbara) Boxer saves Democracy

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: DougR
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:22 PM

Ah, you beat me to it Martin. I guess it depends on what the definition of "lost" is or maybe even what the definition of "is" is.

I will try to simplify for you Carol C: Bush got more votes than Kerry and Nader. Bush won, Kerry and Nader lost.

Get it now?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:21 PM

I sure would have loved to read comments by the local conservatives here if their guy had lost by small margins under dubious circumstances...ESPECIALLY if he had won the popular vote 4 years earlier, but was denied victory under VERY dubious circumstances.

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:21 PM

Define "win".

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:10 PM

Lost means that you didn't win.

What other idiotic questions do you have?

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: artbrooks
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:08 PM

Congressional rules require that at least one member of both the Senate and the House challange the vote of the electoral college for it to be brought to a floor vote. This from the Washington Post:

By law, a protest signed by members of the House and Senate requires both chambers to meet separately for up to two hours to consider it. Lawmakers are allowed to speak for no more than five minutes each. The Senate session lasted just over an hour and ended when the chamber voted 74-1 to uphold Ohio's votes. Boxer was the lone vote.

Doesn't seem like there was much in the way of debate.

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:06 PM

DougR, define "lost".

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: DougR
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 06:03 PM

Yeah, a great way to begin the new session on a bi-partisan basis. Barbara Boxer is simply looking for headlines. The effort will go nowhere.

Give it up guys, YOU LOST!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 05:54 PM

it will be good to see this debated and thus put into the record....but we all know that it will not accomplish much.

I commend Senator Boxer for agreeing to make the airing of the situation possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 05:33 PM

Go, Babs...

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: PoppaGator
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 04:30 PM

I heard on NPR this morning that Rep. John Conyers was expected to challenge the Electoral College (specifically, the Ohio electors) today.

Did he back out? Did Ms. Boxer take up the fight instead?

Subject: RE: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 04:28 PM

So are they going ahead with the debate on the floor now? What happens next?

Subject: BS: Boxer saves Democracy
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 04:17 PM

Senator Barbara Boxer of California was the only Democratic Senator to stand up to the malpractice of Ohio voting along with the dissenting House Democrats. She is probably the only Democrat left with any backbone. The Republican Senators threw their usual brickbats (not that they are concerned with the right to vote in this country although they purport to care about elections in Iraq and the Ukraine). I think that all progressive women should be proud. None of the Senatorial men revealed such courage. It took a brave woman to stand up to the Old Boys Network. Bless Barbara Boxer!

Frank