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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 30 Nov 02 - 08:21 PM Yes ma'am, It appears you are correct. Nothing but ad hominem attacks. Anything in particular you would like to discuss? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: NicoleC Date: 30 Nov 02 - 07:43 PM Hmmm. I miss Doug already, and it's only been a day. Intelligent conversation and debate appears to be in very short supply right now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 30 Nov 02 - 06:52 PM you've just proved yourself into my point (inhale whispering slowly to self) "Proved myself into his point"...? You're not from around here are you? makes Bush seem a gentleman President Bush IS a gentleman, a nice contrast to rapist X42. Perhaps instead of your display of attitude, you would care to refute anything I have stated. By the way, I'm not particularly religious. It's just that that's the way our history unfolded, and how our founding documents are laid out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: diesel Date: 30 Nov 02 - 12:25 AM Thanks MAV - you've just proved yourself into my point - and I assume don't even realise it. Should try read what you say - makes Bush seem a gentleman. Diesel PS We could argue out our points adinfinitum or adnauseium but I'll just back off and listen.....a while |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 30 Nov 02 - 12:18 AM That's very nice honey, you used "sociopathic" twice in a single short post. Is it your latest word of the day? The only sociopaths are the socialists. They have the whole rest of the world, leave U.S. the hell alone. "W" said, "Either you are with us or......." I think we got your number. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 29 Nov 02 - 11:52 PM diesel,
One thing to throw off an Empire,another to take it's place. If you think being subjugated feels bad enough that you want to make your own path in life, what makes walking over others any the better for it
Where exactly is the American Empire? We liberate and leave. Are you implying we now occupy and control Germany and Japan etc? Did we steal their natural resources and enslave their people?...Please.
When it comes to oil, we developed it for the murdering savages and then WE PAY THEM FOR IT! Probably a big mistake.
When we do decide to develop our own vast untapped offshore resources and alternate energy technology (should it EVER become necessary) they can go pound sand.
It's amongst other things called arrogance - and it ain't liked. The british have it in bundles, the French in packets
True enough, we don't like it either, the French have a lot of damn Gaul...they can't even get plumbing figured out, even after being shown how. They have absolutely nothing to be snotty about.
and the Americans in their daily life
There's a difference, it's called confidence. We have the freedom to make our own way, to create wealth from a position of poverty and we have no real infrastructure of social classes. American workers are the most productive in the world, and our stock market is the envy of the financial world. We should be ashamed? I think not.
We got to be the world's only superpower by the cooperative effort of individuals of all races and the opportunity to succeed (economic freedom). The rest of the world is envious (resentful) because we did it without the help of their phony socialism.
We have bailed out Europe several times now, most recently in Bosnia. Europe, who gave us Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Musolini, and they have the BALLS to look down their nose at us? (Arrogant bastards) By the way, I hear Europe is currently on the verge of economic collapse.
Even our poor are the richest in the world. Most Americans regardless of class have color tvs, air conditioning, automobiles, computers.
so much so they think they have a right to it
We do have a right to it (confidence). Our rights come from the creator, not from a government or other men. Certainly not from other nations. We WILL NOT let those rights be taken.
Perhaps you should read the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights (US Constitution) available in your local set of encyclopedia. That is what makes American conservatives tick.
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: DougR Date: 29 Nov 02 - 11:37 PM Amos: Interesting article. I'm a bit surprised that you seem to accept the writer's analysis of GWB based on the fact that the writer succeeded in getting a newspaper to print his opinion. After all, that's all it is, isn't it? His opinion? I don't believe he offered any scientific analysis to back up his argument. I think it's horse pucky, but if you accept it as fact, okie dokie. That's your right. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Greg F. Date: 29 Nov 02 - 11:25 PM Obviously Baby Bush is not the only sociopathic personality in this thread; the prodigal Limbaugh wannabe seems to have returned. Let's don't feed the sociopathic trolls, folks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: toadfrog Date: 29 Nov 02 - 11:24 PM No, Mr. Mhacha, we aren't liars. You are mistaken about that. There is more than one type of person in the United States. The kind of people who belong to Mudcat are mostly not the kind who voted for Bush. Just as I'm sure there are many hundreds of people in Ireland who don't throw bombs or send their daughters off to join the Magdalen Sisters. Troll: You have a point there. I think the answer is, some people believe Bush is a moron because they think he really believes all the stuff he says about "good science" and "fair" taxes. But I give him more credit than that. I think he's intelligent enough to realize that it's all bullshit, what he says, and cynical enough to say it anyway. And I never suggested that he "engineered the death of Paul Wellstone." But I think some of his more far-out supporters may just be capable of that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 29 Nov 02 - 11:01 PM Amos, don't be a complete jerk so soon, okay? I'm no more being a jerk than any of the other posters on this thread, have a look back, reflecting on the title. I represent the opposing point of view. A rule of law among nations is not an empire, for chring out loud It is if it undermines our American Constitution and allows our citizens to be bullied by third world dictators (The UN). let's differentiate between the things that make sense amd the things that do not Like what? The lie of "global warming", whether or not Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and North Korea pose a threat to western civilization? The belief that CO2 is a pollutant? It is not as though we are on a separate planet, after all The US has been attacked in a big way, we WILL NOT become used to it, if other countries wish to.....so be it. We live in freedom, and promote it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: diesel Date: 29 Nov 02 - 10:40 PM Hey MAV One thing to throw off an Empire, another to take it's place. If you think being subjugated feels bad enough that you want to make your own path in life, what makes walking over others any the better for it. It's amongst other things called arrogance - and it ain't liked. The british have it in bundles, the French in packets, and the Americans in their daily life - so much so they think they have a right to it...which only proves the point. Diesel |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Amos Date: 29 Nov 02 - 06:59 PM MAV....I am glad you are back, but don't be a complete jerk so soon, okay? A rule of law among nations is not an empire, for chring out loud. I concur completely about undoing the rapant and silly business of political "correctness", oxymoron that it is. But let's differentiate between the things that make sense amd the things that do not. It is not as though we are on a separate planet, after all! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 29 Nov 02 - 06:36 PM The Bushniks' amply-displayed contempt for both law and institutions when they're not made by and for Americans (Kyoto, the International Criminal Court etc. etc.) sets efforts to introduce the rule of law into the conduct of international relations back anywhere from fifty to a hundred years GOOD! We fought a revolution to throw off an empire. We like our sovereignty why would we embrace "internationalism" now? We have immigrants from every culture in the world who come here to enjoy the liberty and independence available here. Now if only we could set political correctness (suppression of speech)back fifty to a hundred years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Date: 29 Nov 02 - 03:56 PM Ard Mhacha's comment on the shrub's standing in Ireland is interesting. I may be just projecting my own views onto my compatriots, but a possible explanation is that a belief in international institutions and the rule of international law is an important component of the founding myth of modern Ireland (disgust at the imperial powers' exclusion of the Sinn Féin delegation to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, Dev's commitment to the League of Nations, the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty sponsored by Ireland, participation in UN operations such as the Congo and supprt for the the decolonisation of Africa, the European Court of Justice and Mary Robinson's outstanding pleadings there, the European Union as a joint rejection of war by France and Germany etc. etc.). The Bushniks' amply-displayed contempt for both law and institutions when they're not made by and for Americans (Kyoto, the International Criminal Court etc. etc.) sets efforts to introduce the rule of law into the conduct of international relations back anywhere from fifty to a hundred years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: diesel Date: 29 Nov 02 - 03:37 PM We have an expression for that type of clear writing and the message it sends goes something like : Oh Fuck ! Thanks Amos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Ebbie Date: 29 Nov 02 - 03:18 PM Ouch Sometimes this conflict feels almost of biblical proportions. I've never felt that way about the world before. OTOH, I've never been this old and cynical before- so disregard. As a friend of mine says, he grew up with all the doomsday scenarios of the 50s and 60s drummed into him- and he's not going to worry ever again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Amos Date: 29 Nov 02 - 02:32 PM It is possible that Bush's idiocies are symptomatic of a deeper disorder. The following from the Toronto Star (an even-handed, thoughtful paper if ever there was one!): Bush Anything But Moronic, According to Author Dark Overtones in His Malapropisms by Murray Whyte When Mark Crispin Miller first set out to write Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder, about the ever-growing catalogue of President George W. Bush's verbal gaffes, he meant it for a laugh. But what he came to realize wasn't entirely amusing. Since the 2000 presidential campaign, Miller has been compiling his own collection of Bush-isms, which have revealed, he says, a disquieting truth about what lurks behind the cock-eyed leer of the leader of the free world. He's not a moron at all - on that point, Miller and Prime Minister Jean Chrétien agree. But according to Miller, he's no friend. "I did initially intend it to be a funny book. But that was before I had a chance to read through all the transcripts," Miller, an American author and a professor of culture and communication at New York University, said recently in Toronto. "Bush is not an imbecile. He's not a puppet. I think that Bush is a sociopathic personality. I think he's incapable of empathy. He has an inordinate sense of his own entitlement, and he's a very skilled manipulator. And in all the snickering about his alleged idiocy, this is what a lot of people miss." Miller's judgment, that the president might suffer from a bona fide personality disorder, almost makes one long for the less menacing notion currently making the rounds: that the White House's current occupant is, in fact, simply an idiot. If only. Miller's rendering of the president is bleaker than that. In studying Bush's various adventures in oration, he started to see a pattern emerging. "He has no trouble speaking off the cuff when he's speaking punitively, when he's talking about violence, when he's talking about revenge. "When he struts and thumps his chest, his syntax and grammar are fine," Miller said. "It's only when he leaps into the wild blue yonder of compassion, or idealism, or altruism, that he makes these hilarious mistakes." While Miller's book has been praised for its "eloquence" and "playful use of language," it has enraged Bush supporters. Bush's ascent in the eyes of many Americans - his approval rating hovers at near 80 percent - was the direct result of tough talk following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. In those speeches, Bush stumbled not at all; his language of retribution was clear. It was a sharp contrast to the pre-9/11 George W. Bush. Even before the Supreme Court in 2001 had to intervene and rule on recounts in Florida after a contentious presidential election, a corps of journalists were salivating at the prospect: a bafflingly inarticulate man in a position of power not seen since vice-president Dan Quayle rode shotgun on George H.W. Bush's one term in office. But equating Bush's malapropisms with Quayle's inability to spell "potato" is a dangerous assumption, Miller says. At a public address in Nashville, Tenn., in September, Bush provided one of his most memorable stumbles. Trying to give strength to his case that Saddam Hussein had already deceived the West concerning his store of weapons, Bush was scripted to offer an old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. What came out was the following: "Fool me once, shame ... shame on ... you." Long, uncomfortable pause. "Fool me - can't get fooled again!" Played for laughs everywhere, Miller saw a darkness underlying the gaffe. "There's an episode of Happy Days, where The Fonz has to say, `I'm sorry' and can't do it. Same thing," Miller said. "What's revealing about this is that Bush could not say, `Shame on me' to save his life. That's a completely alien idea to him. This is a guy who is absolutely proud of his own inflexibility and rectitude." If what Miller says is true - and it would take more than just observations to prove it - then Bush has achieved an astounding goal. By stumbling blithely along, he has been able to push his image as "just folks" - a normal guy who screws up just like the rest of us. This, in fact, is a central cog in his image-making machine, Miller says: Portraying the wealthy scion of one of America's most powerful families as a regular, imperfect Joe. But the depiction, Miller says, is also remarkable for what it hides - imperfect, yes, but also detached, wealthy and unable to identify with the "folks" he's been designed to appeal to. An example, Miller says, surfaced early in his presidential tenure. "I know how hard it is to put food on your family," Bush was quoted as saying. "That wasn't because he's so stupid that he doesn't know how to say, `Put food on your family's table' - it's because he doesn't care about people who can't put food on the table," Miller says. So, when Bush is envisioning "a foreign-handed foreign policy," or observes on some point that "it's not the way that America is all about," Miller contends it's because he can't keep his focus on things that mean nothing to him. "When he tries to talk about what this country stands for, or about democracy, he can't do it," he said. This, then, is why he's so closely watched by his handlers, Miller says - not because he'll say something stupid, but because he'll overindulge in the language of violence and punishment at which he excels. "He's a very angry guy, a hostile guy. He's much like Nixon. So they're very, very careful to choreograph every move he makes. They don't want him anywhere near protestors, because he would lose his temper." Miller, without question, is a man with a mission - and laughter isn't it. "I call him the feel bad president, because he's all about punishment and death," he said. "It would be a grave mistake to just play him for laughs." Copyright 1996-2002. Toronto Star Newspapers Limited © Copyrighted 1997-2002 www.commondreams.org A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Kaleea Date: 29 Nov 02 - 03:30 AM As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a maroon!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 28 Nov 02 - 11:43 PM Thanks Doug, Bobert is mine!
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: DougR Date: 28 Nov 02 - 10:53 PM Welcome back, Mav, I've needed a wee bit of help from time to time! I don't know if you have met Bobert yet. Now a word or warning. Bobert is mine! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 28 Nov 02 - 09:13 PM Yes Ebb, nice to hear from you too, (actually I had completely forgot about you) Too bad about the massive RAT losses and the apparent disintegration of the DNC. I guess you can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time. The RAT message finally bit 'em in the @$$ and the voters didn't want to hear Mondale's "Look at 'em, we're gonna tax their @$$e$ off." The RAT message: "We want a more expensive bigger government with more do-nothing union thug bureaucrats to sap the crap out of your work-a-day paychecks so we can have ineffective social programs to buy the votes from the parasites." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Ebbie Date: 28 Nov 02 - 03:58 PM So good to hear from MavICK again. (Nothing personal, of course.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: MAV Date: 28 Nov 02 - 02:41 PM Hey DougR and Little Hawk, I'm baaaaaaack! Had a little interval and a small campaign there. (I won) It's a good thing W's such a moron, otherwise Garp D!khed and Tom D'ashole wouldn't be able to walk all over him. Oh wait..... They're toast The RATs LOST!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: diesel Date: 27 Nov 02 - 11:11 PM This one's doing the rounds out our e-mail way; rgds Diesel >Subject: From the White House!! > (We take you now to the Oval Office.) George: Condi! Nice to see you. What's happening? Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China. George: Great. Lay it on me. Condi: Hu is the new leader of China. George: That's what I want to know. Condi: That's what I'm telling you. George: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China? Condi: Yes. George: I mean the fellow's name. Condi: Hu. George: The guy in China. Condi: Hu. George: The new leader of China. Condi: Hu. George: The Chinaman! Condi: Hu is leading China. George: Now whaddya' asking me for? Condi: I'm telling you Hu is leading China. George: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China? Condi: That's the man's name. George: That's who's name? Condi: Yes. George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China? Condi: Yes, sir. George: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle East. Condi: That's correct. George: Then who is in China? Condi: Yes, sir. George: Yassir is in China? Condi: No, sir. George: Then who is? Condi: Yes, sir. George: Yassir? Condi: No, sir. George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone. Condi: Kofi? George: No, thanks. Condi: You want Kofi? George: No. Condi: You don't want Kofi. George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N. Condi: Yes, sir. George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N. Condi: Kofi? George: Milk! Will you please make the call? Condi: And call who? George: Who is the guy at the U.N? Condi: Hu is the guy in China. George: Will you stay out of China?! Condi: Yes, sir. George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N. Condi: Kofi. George: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone. (Condi picks up the phone.) Condi: Rice, here. George: Rice? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too. Maybe we should send some to the guy in China. And the Middle East. Can you get Chinese food in the Middle East? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Bluesmike Date: 27 Nov 02 - 07:24 PM What's got me beat is most of the worlds leaders plus our own little banana republic boy scout are lining up for the privelege of giving the shrub a head job for solidarity. They say we get the politicians we deserve and I'm getting paranoid just trying to work out what I did that was THAT bad. Michael |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 27 Nov 02 - 05:23 PM Maybe it takes some big small bit To run slipshod across pro quo quit But whether duh(b) is smart or dumb He's played a joke on every one Stuck in place by family Oil and war uncivilly Learned vengence found him ruling Helps industry invent new tooling Duh(b) is on a brutal team A frontman average is their scheme To have his comp'ney and a beer Affords Big Brother's loving cheer And what of those who for him voted With flags and warring conscience coated Will they read between the lines Misunderstanding all the signs...? ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: PeteBoom Date: 27 Nov 02 - 02:17 PM Crossing the border this weekend on my way to pipe band practice with two other guys, the guard on the Canadian side (third time in succession we had him check us!) ran through his usual bit, then recognized the bunch of us and said - "Oh, its you guys again. Have anything to declare?" We said "Ducross is right." HE said, "Damn right she is, have a good practice, guys." =) Pete |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: DougR Date: 27 Nov 02 - 02:11 PM Ebbie: I'm much relieved. :>) Rick: I hope you, Kendall and LH don't get too shot up over there. The Three Muskeeters to the rescue! I see it in my mind's eye and I ...(hard to explain)...I'll try though ...laugh hilariously! I trust you and LH will keep a close watch on Kendall. I read somewhere that Llamas run wild in Iraq and we wouldn't want ...oh you know. I haven't heard any reports of Bush being too upset over being called a moron. Rather, I read in one of the Texas newspapers online that he told Ari to send the lady his thanks. That's one of the nicest things he's been called in a long time. :>) DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Rick Fielding Date: 27 Nov 02 - 11:28 AM Well relax everybody. Madame Ducros is gone. Oh, to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes, and hear the backroom BOYS desperately trying to do 'damage control'...but all the while laughing their fool heads off at how little even the supposed SMART American politicos know about Canada. Our politicians may be corrupt and Machiavellian, (well it IS a neccessity isn't it?) but someone with Bush's APPARENT limitations would simply not rise high enough to be in a position to be elected leader. The "illiterate" tag would dog him everywhere he went beyond Mayor of some small town. Chretien is acting EXACTLY like a guy who'll never run for election again. He simply doesn't give a shit anymore. Rick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Amos Date: 27 Nov 02 - 01:10 AM Well it is true that in human terms he could pass for an average guy, I submit that he has climbed the bully pulpit fully aware that he is not up to the level of thought needed to steward the post through even peaceful times. Hey, LEJ!! Nice to see your clarion voice around here after so long! But he is a deep, ground-water idiot, not a drooling social misfit sort of idiot. Not a skin-deep idiot. This man is dense to the bone. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: NicoleC Date: 26 Nov 02 - 11:38 PM Since Bush gained the White House even though he didn't win the popular vote, it's not that unlikely that someone you talk to didn't vote for him. Tweedledee and Tweedledum both got about 49%... even if Gore had won there'd still be a heck of a lot of people that didn't vote for either of 'em! Given the generally liberal bent of musicians, I'd say the votes around MudCat went... maybe 20% to Bush? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Troll Date: 26 Nov 02 - 09:57 AM I think there must be TWO George Bushes. One is the moron that everyone seems to think him. The other is the evil, fiendishly clever manipulator who engineered such things as the death of Paul Wellstone. I mean, it couldn't be the same guy, could it? troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha Date: 26 Nov 02 - 06:17 AM I find it amazing how Bush received so many votes,the magority of Mudcatters say they don`t support him. With the gift of hindsight and realising your mistake, are you all being truthful?. In Ireland it seems every person I speak to regards him with a loathing which was once reserved for Hitler and Stalin. The fact that he conned his way in to the White House is one of many reasons why he is a hated figure here. Ard Mhacha. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Jeri Date: 25 Nov 02 - 11:34 PM Hey - I used to drive an M-35! (crap - I fear I'm in a rhyming mood again) Rent Canadian Bacon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Rick Fielding Date: 25 Nov 02 - 10:54 PM Were I the Prime Minister....and you'd better be glad I'M NOT!! I'd instruct Madame Ducros to immediately start calling EVERY foreign leader a Moron, (with TV cameras running) hence getting us off the hook! Ummmmmm, personally I can't remember all the names of the world leaders.....ummm who can we ask.....Oh Mr Bushhhhhh? Seriously Doug, I'm sorry you're having to put up with all this stuff from "Soviet Canuckistan" but with any luck Kendall, Little Hawk and I will get drafted under the new *N.A.G.S.D.C.L Statute that's before Congress at the moment. If I get the chance I'll blow them both away with either my AKG 47, my little Armalight, my D-28, or my M-35. *North American Geriatric Shit Disturbers Conscription Law. Moronthislater |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: kendall Date: 25 Nov 02 - 10:34 PM You are right, Doug; we learned what they want, and we know how to deliver it, but, they don't want it from US! LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: NicoleC Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:57 PM I seriously hope that Bush the Lesser is not all upset about being called a moron. It's certainly bad diplomacy on the part of Ducros, but Bush is being called MUCH worse by folks he *should* be worried about, namely registered voters. Of course, he could be pretending to be in a snit because he wants to invade Canada! :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Ebbie Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:35 PM Little Hawk, I watched part of the TV show, 'The View' this morning. They had a short discussion about it. The concensus was that we have a god-given right to call anyone a moron we want to- and worse things than that. It goes with the territory. As one of the panelists said, summing up: "And if Bush can go around calling Putin 'Pootie', what's he got to complain about? What a moron!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:20 PM As of tonight the North American media are still obsessing over the "moron" comment. The latest problem that has arisen (in their minds, I mean) is that the Iraqui news agency has gotten hold of the "moron" story and is telling all Iraq about it! The fear now is that this may give people in Iraq and other distant countries the idea that the USA is "not liked" and that Bush is "not respected". MY GOD!!! Think of what could happen if such ideas got around!!!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! I can't believe these news people. Are they living in some kind of bizarre dream world? How can they take themselves seriously at all? What are they getting paid for? The "Lucy Show" made more sense. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Ebbie Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:12 PM Oh, no, no, DougR. You misunderstand me. My laughter was purely admiring. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: DougR Date: 25 Nov 02 - 11:17 AM Ebbie, you cut me to the quick with that ha ha ha ha post. *Sob* DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Nov 02 - 01:03 AM LEJ - that is a sensationally good post! Guys - No, no, Diana is not too old for me. No sireee. She is ten years older, but as far as I am concerned, that is no impediment whatsoever. STAY BACK! She's mine!!! Hah! Hah! Hah! (maniacal laughter...) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Boab Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:59 AM A well heeled bearer of "weapons of mass destruction"---moronic or not--- typically CAN move a lot of people, particularly of the creep variety. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Lonesome EJ Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:34 AM Y'know, I don't think Bush is dumb. Frankly, he's of a pretty typical intelligence level. From his mispronunciations and inaccuracies, it's obvious that he doesn't do a great deal of reading. I think he lacks the basic curiosity about "what makes things work" that distinguishes the politico of higher intelligence : For Bush, things just are the way they are, the way they always have been, the way they always will be. He has a kind of easy humor and confidence that are rather endearing, the kind of middle-management guy who might have worked at Enron, popular with his underlings and competently managing his area while the whole shooting match was sliding down the tubes. I'll bet he'd be a good guy to have a beer with after work, and what he lacked in wit and perception, he would make up for in humor and camaraderie. He's just an average guy, and I think that's why he appeals to average guys. It's sort of like we were all sitting around the table at happy hour in Bennigan's, drew cocktail straws to see who would become President, and GW won. Guys like Clinton, Gore, Ralph Nader might be sharp, but you wouldn't meet em for a beer, especially Clinton if your wife came along. Bush said about Reagan "he wasn't bogged down by a lot of complexities that just confuse people." I think this says a lot about Bush...complexities aren't layers of fact or meaning that may have a crucial bearing on a situation, they are "confusers". But he's not stupid, he's merely average. Go to work and look around. There are probably several people in your office with as much skill and competence as George has, they just lack the power and the confidence. In a country that has been viciously attacked by a group of religious fanatics, where the economy has hit the skids, where the real world seems strange and scary, a simple guy who presents things as black-and-white issues is somehow reassuring to the average American. We aren't looking to the future or we'd want a visionary. We're looking for a competent mechanic to keep the ship of state afloat and steaming along, and maybe plug the holes as they pop up. And I think that's the way GW is seen...he's a Plugger. Kind of sad though. When what we need is a Lincoln, what we get is the Maytag Repairman. And we're ready to settle for it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Ebbie Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:27 AM hhhahahahha |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: DougR Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:18 AM Uh, Joe. Pardon, but Diana Rigg is much closer to MY age than either you or L.H.! I suspicion that she would put both you and L.H. into the hospital due to her experience and expertise. Now an old foggy like me, wise in the ways of satisfying beautiful ladies, that's a different story. We are blessed because WE lived through the Depression, and we learned early on what was required, and how to deliver it. DougR *G* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:34 PM That's great to Know, however most politians are anyway |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:01 PM As a service to the general public, allow me to announce that Diana Rigg was born Jul 20, 1938 - Doncaster, England. I'm guessing Little Hawk is 47 years old, so he's too young. She'll be just fine for me, though. She's ten years older than I am, but I can deal with it. People say I'm quite mature for my age. Can't say the same for Little Hawk... [chortle] -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: leprechaun Date: 24 Nov 02 - 10:42 PM LH - Isn't Diana Rigg just a little young for you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron From: Mr Red Date: 24 Nov 02 - 09:18 PM more on the moron! |