BS: The worst desperation ploy ever

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 09:18 AM

Why is Congress fucking around with HIS war?

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:32 PM

He keeps looking more and more like less and less.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 03:01 PM

Bush warned that a failure by Congress to approve the $100 billion he had requested for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would prolong some tours in Iraq and shorten time at home between tours for others. "That is unacceptable to me," he said. "And I believe it is unacceptable to the American people.

Prolonged tours in Iraq have been the case, already, as well as shorter time home in between!

Also democrats said, And the House bill, they said, would mandate that the president either follow Pentagon policy limiting deployments and requiring a rest period between them - one year for the army; 210 days for the Marines - or obtain waivers to ignore those rules.

So, the asshole is blowing smoke, again.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 02:10 PM

maybe the worst ploy would be the disappearence of a Democratic Senator.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:24 AM

All Congress has to do is keep sending timetables to Bush who will keep vetoing them. That, in essence, cuts off funding.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: artbrooks
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:11 AM

There was a lot of arm twisting and pork allocations involved in getting this/these (the House and Senate bills are different) passed. The chance of getting one through that simply cuts off war funding as of a certain date is exactly zero.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:00 AM

Yeah - sod the Navy!

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Apr 07 - 11:49 PM

That was last years spin John.

There is a new bill that cuts Bush war funding off entirely IF W should veto the war deadline bill.

Yes unfortunately we will hear that Congress is personally killing and starving our troops to death. By the way, lets stop with the phrase 'the troops this, the TROOPS that"... what we are really talking about is our ARMY.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 03 Apr 07 - 12:07 AM

Although the "decider" has quoted the May 15 deadline, some of his generals have said "'taint quite thus and so." There is some dispute over how long Congress can delay, and on what the impact of delay for any given time might be; so no link to a specific authority on this today - although more opinions may be expected within the near term.

It should also be noted that the time limit (deadlines) in the bills most recently cited are non-binding, having the effect of a "golly gee we wish ya' would" legislation. A "whiff of testosterone" - maybe - but as yet no sign that Congress has "grown a new set of balls."

John

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: kendall
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 09:41 PM

Congress has heard the voice of the voters. Bush is deaf.

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: 282RA
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 10:19 PM

Congress had better stick to their guns! If they back down now, they'll look far worse than if they cut funding. Every idiot and his brother knows if the funding is cut, the soldiers have to come home. Who in their right mind thinks they are going to just stay there completely on their own like Japanese soldiers living on some Pacific Island 30 years after the war ended? Who seriously believes that? Congress has to make clear to Bush he is not going to get a bill without a timetable and Congress has no business caving in to a motherfucker they should be impeaching. They should be using that as leverage: "Either you pass it or we start impeachment proceedings."

Subject: RE: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 10:12 PM

Obama has it right: if the President vetoes the funding bill which has the timetable for withdrawal, Congress will pasa a funding bill without the timetable.

It's game time in Washington, and dying time in Iraq.

Subject: BS: The worst desperation ploy ever
From: 282RA
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 09:55 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Delayed U.S. congressional passage of funding for the       Iraq war could mean extended deployments for troops serving there as cash to train their replacements dries up, a top White House aide said on Sunday.

White House counselor Dan Bartlett criticized Congress for going on recess before finishing the wartime supplemental bill, which       President Bush has vowed to veto if it sets a timetable for pulling U.S. combat troops out of Iraq.

"By mid-May, troops in Iraq, serving Iraq, would potentially have to have their deployments extended because they're not getting their job done right here," Bartlett told ABC's "This Week" television program.

He cited remarks by Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, to a House of Representatives panel on Thursday that after April 15, without emergency funding, the Army would have to begin curtailing some troop training.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said that if the funds were not approved by May 15, the Army might have to extend some soldiers' tours, because other units would not be ready, and reduce equipment repair work, among other things.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070401/pl_nm/iraq_usa_funding_dc_1

Don't cut the funding or our troops will be undertrained and overextended. I mean, are these fucking assholes for real??? Are these people even in touch with reality????