BS: Exercise Physiologist?

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 10:02 PM

Been away-- will review above when we get back home.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 05:31 AM

Information developed in the '50s and after has pretty much moved into professional medical treatment/therapy practice now, and for information you can use at a practical and personal level those advertising in physical therapy, and expecially "sports medicine and therapy" should be fairly well informed. Many medium to larger cities in my region have numerous such practitioners.

Without a more specific question, any additional "answers" we can suggest are just random wisecracks.

If there is a local university with a medical/nursing option in the graduate school, an advanced student might be willing to consult with you - or use you as a student research project.(?) If there is a "sports medicine clinic" in the area, you may be able to pick up useful handouts in the front lobby to give you some direction, if your question isn't an obtuse one.

Your local pro or semi-pro ball team (any kind of balls) might be willing to pass a question to their "trainer" who should have experience and knowledge in the field, perhaps for the price of a brew if you can find out where they "relax."

Suggestions given thus far would perhaps be appropriate if you're planning on training for a marathon, or perhaps want to swim the Channel, but I suspect you have other purposes(?).

John

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 12:02 AM

While we are passing out KUDO's do not forget Doctor TIPTON.

And if we are looking for "the Well Spring" of the science of xercise - threads and references will repeatedly focus back to the physiological concepts of Galen, the first sports medicine physician (he was physician to the gladiators at Pergamum.)

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST,::::
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 12:44 AM

Surely, there were collectors of ballads before CHILD, but if you were seeking one of his equals in the multiple fields of Exercise Physiology you would find ERIK HOHWU CHRISTENSEN in the quartet.

Also, you may consider a past US Air Force physician, Dr. Kenneth H. Cooper, M.D., M.P.H., he published his first bestseller, Aerobics, in 1968, and introduced a new word and a new concept to America. Modern day, the Cooper Institute for Aerobics Research in Dallas, suggests fitness level is a much stronger indicator of health and longevity than weight.

You might want to talk to your friend and determine if it might be Kinesiology that she desires to explore.

Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:12 AM

ANOTHER "Pioneer in the the field of Exercise Physiology

James 'Doc' Counsilman, at the age of 58, became the oldest person to swim the English Channel.

It was Counsilman who in the 1960's began to examine the mechanics of swimming. His study led him to write The Science of Swimming, now considered the bible of swimming instruction. Counsilman changed the world of swimming with biomechanics .

"He wanted to show how much an older person is capable of accomplishing.

http://www.indiana.edu/~radiotv/wtiu/doc/about.html

Thank you friends for posting before and after - By giving a before and after "time stamp" perhaps the clone will not remove Dr. Laura's influence this week.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:33 AM

Brain and Bannister's Clinical Neurology
BY   Bannister, Roger

This textbook emphasizes the fundamental attraction of neurology: the balance between clinical history, often with subtle psychological aspects; and knowledge of the basic anatomy and physiology of brain function. It clearly explains how to diagnose and treat common neurological disorders.

Publisher: Oxford University Press,
Pub date: 1992.


Autonomic failure : a textbook of clinical disorders of the autonomic nervous system

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BY    Bannister, Roger

New in Paperback This fourth edition of Autonomic Failure covers the many recent advances made in our understandign of the autonomic nervous system. There are 20 new chapters and extensive revisions of all other contributions.This book makes diagnosis increasingly precise by fully evalutating the underlying anatomical and functional deficits, thereby allowing ....

Publisher: Oxford University Press,
Pub date: 1988.

Roger Bannister's Academic Vitae can be posted but it is over 20 pages and may be easily found.

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:18 AM

From Answers.com - "Columbia Encyclopedia"

Bannister was asked whether he looked back on the 4-minute mile as the most important achievement of his life. Bannister replied to the effect that 'no, he rather saw his subsequent forty years of practicing as neurologist and some of the new procedures he introduced as being more significant'. His major contribution in academic medicine was in the field of autonomic failure, an area of neurology focusing on illnesses characterized by certain automatic responses of the nervous system (for example, elevated heart rate when standing up) not occurring.

Rodgers training was Swedish Fartlek (speed play) and Interval

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:04 AM

I guess she is just too skinny, to stay stuck to this thread.

Dr. Laura the National (USA) Talk-Show personality - has her doctorate in Exercise Physiology.

Her syndicated show notes and a small section on exercise and diet may be found here:

http://www.drlaura.com

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 01:26 AM

That's the guy, of course.

I didn't follow his career at all, and only followed him around an exercise field once, briefly, but my understanding is that he had a "distinguished career" in medicine. I don't know whether he specialized once he began regular practice.

Some of his "theories" leaked out while he was still in training, and were discussed in locker rooms around the world, but I don't know how much of it ever got published. It did appear (viewed from the training rooms) that he was about the only one at that time who was actually measuring (mostly on himself), recording, and analyzing physiological responses¹ to exercise in any way meaningful to "working hard at increasing endurance."

¹ Stuff like O₂ demand, CO₂ buildup, amylase/acetone/ketone reduction and tolerance/effects, electrolyte depletion, etc.

Most of those trying for the 4:00 at the same time just went with "this is what I do and I'm damned good, so you should do it my way" - like the average snake oil salesman. (A couple of them actually tried to sell books on the subject.)

At the time, the only serious work within the field of "conventional medicine" seemed to be coming from the Swiss/Swedish regions, although we suspected that the Navy diving schools probably had more good stuff than they would talk (to us) about. Of course we didn't have the internet then - or for the next 30 years for most of us.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 10:48 PM

"Look up Dr. Roger Bannister."

       Is that the same Roger Bannister who was trying to break the four-minute-mile during the Eisenhower Administration?

               And what ever happened to him and that Coe guy he was running against?

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:34 AM

Wotta Mudcat!

Keep them PMs coming, folks.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 10:11 PM

Thanks. I'm not in a position to do the research; I'm just looking for Mudcat help to find someone who might-- a referral.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 10:08 PM

Look up Dr. Roger Bannister. He was one of the first "highly credentialed" ones. His biggest problem perhaps was overcoming "personal bias" in the results, since he was his own guinea pig.

There was a lot of research, and quite a few papers written, getting to the first "four-minute mile." Some of the work was a little "opinionated," but some really solid labwork was done.

Of course that's sort of starting at the beginning, and a lot more is available now, but if you're doing serious research at least a little bit of the history usually should be part of it.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 06:11 PM

If they do not already have their own copy ... then buy them one.... they NEED "Astrand/Rodahl's Textbook of Work Physiology" it is the original "Bible" for the field, and a good place to start their collection.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 06:03 PM

Nope, I'm the subject; I need a researcher. University paper type stuff.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:49 PM

You? :)

Subject: BS: Exercise Physiologist?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:42 PM

Anybody here know a friend of a friend of a friend who's studying exercise science?

~Susan