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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: GUEST,Wwwitch Date: 25 Jul 08 - 05:39 PM Bee, that's Wwwwonderful!!! Www. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: GUEST Date: 25 Jul 08 - 02:38 PM Wicca is a religion like Kwanzaa is a holiday. Entirely made up. Though wicca predates the African fakery by about 70 years. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: SINSULL Date: 25 Jul 08 - 02:07 PM aPOLOGIES ACCEPTED bEE. dAMN cAPSLOCK! Wonder what Spaw would make of this: The Bishop's spirit, long asleep Awoke to find his bones a-leap Nicely done. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: Bee Date: 25 Jul 08 - 01:35 PM Freda and Wwwilliam, those are great! My contribution: The bishop and the witch A bonny young witch to the cemetery gaes To work her charms among the graves Sae lang she staid and waited lang For the moon to rise to the spells she sang The moon at last deigned to appear But the starry sky refused to clear Thae billow'd clouds hid the witches light She must carry on in the darkest night Beneath the hallowed Christian gound An ancient Bishop, he lay bound An' at his side, Saint Pat's bacuill The same had pierced that old Laoghaire An' as the witch began her chants The Bishop's bones began to dance So sweet and lively was her song The bones were moved to dance along The Bishop's spirit, long asleep Awoke to find his bones a-leap An angry prelate he was then An' so did work to be her bane Above the earth the witch unsheathed Her shining sword, the airs to cleave So as she swung it broad and high The Bishop's ghost did hover nigh An' whether the Bishop's sharp bacuill Or a chancy slip of her own true will All in the dark when the sword came down her own dear blood did speckle her gown "OW! Ow!!" she cried at this painful deed While her pretty little foot did quickly bleed An' seeing now the Bishop's ghost Knew that her good night's work was lost "A curse on thee, thou Bishop cruel An' on Saint Patrick's old bacuill I did no harm to your mouldy bones They danced on their own to my dulcet tones!" (Apologies for the thoroughly fake antiquing of the language - and the somewhat forced rhyming here and there. ;-)) |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: SINSULL Date: 25 Jul 08 - 12:07 PM Www Www - Wwwell done! |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: ClaireBear Date: 25 Jul 08 - 11:35 AM Bryn Pugh -- no, we don't. Not that differently, anyway! If you read this longer article, it seems to imply that the choice of a graveyard was not so much due to its graveyardness, as to its peace & quiet. I'm thinking that possibly it's hard to find a place to work under the full moon in Lebanon, Indiana? There's a video interview with the sword-sticker/stickee on that site, too. About things being different in America: There is an African/African American/Caribbean (hoodoo) tradition of graveyard dirt being a source of power, even luck, but I've been reading up on that, and I don't see anything in there about performing thank-you rituals in graveyards...I suppose some U.S. wiccan traditions might incorporate snippets of hoodoo into their practice (though I don't know of any) and come up with something like this, but if this was hoodoo-inspired, it seems pretty far removed from the genuine article. Claire |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: GUEST,Wwwilliam's Wwwitch Date: 25 Jul 08 - 09:55 AM The night has been unruly: where we lay, Our chimneys were blown down; and, as they say, Lamentings heard i' the air; strange screams of death, Clamour'd the livelong night: some say, the earth Was feverous and did shake as I stumbled to the graveyard, yet awake At my approach, ghosts, wandering here and there, Troop home to churchyards: damned spirits all, That in crossways and floods have burial, Already to their wormy beds are gone. Yet I am one for fortune, and for dance alone among the skeletons I prance yet, is this a dagger which I see before me? There's daggers in men's smiles and in their eyes What's done is done I shout, and leap the shadows Full knowing that I bear a charmed life Fair is foul, and foul is fair this even' as old bones arise anew to tread the earth Nor do I fear thy looks or jest with nature, When the hurlyburly 's done,yet all is mirth Them bones, them bones, them dry bones are all shook up, like battered bread and leaven' The wrinkles on our flesh are all wither'd And meteors fright the fixed stars of heaven; The pale-faced moon looks bloody on the earth And lean-look'd prophets whisper fearful change. Is this a dagger which I see before me, The handle even so toward my hand? No, it's the sword of fate descending into the steps that walk upon this land.... |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: Bryn Pugh Date: 25 Jul 08 - 05:29 AM Although I am Wiccan and have been since Beal Tain 1971, I was brought up on folk tales from the Irish-American side of my family. One of these was about when Patrick was preaching and trying to convert the High King, Laoghaire, to christianity. It seems that Patrick was using his bacuill (which had a pointy end) to emphasise items in his sermon, and put the bacuill through Laoghaire's foot. The High King didn't even blink. (Like you wouldn't). When Patrick saw what he'd done, horrified, he asked Laoghaire what the score was ; and Laoghaire said that he'd thought having your foot pierced by a bishop's bacuill was part of the christian initiation. (I, too, am curious as to why this ritual had to be in a boneyard ; but perhaps Wiccans on that side of the pond do things differently.) |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: Hollowfox Date: 24 Jul 08 - 12:46 PM Mmario, what's the fiction series you're reading? Bookaholics want to know. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: greg stephens Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:50 AM Who could put it better than our William (in the lesser known 3rd Folio edition of Macbeth) Round about the cauldron go In the poison'd entrails throw Shit, there goes my bloody toe |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: freda underhill Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:48 AM .. well, the challenge is on now, SINS, it can only get better...!! freda |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: freda underhill Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:35 AM ps my daughter informs me that 'foot' has a very different meaning in German, one that would mean that Merlin hit his mark after all! f.u. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: SINSULL Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:32 AM LOL Great Freda! |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: freda underhill Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:18 AM it was a dark and eery night, and all the witches snuck into the depths of a cemetery, to celebrate good luck... (not a very lucky place for some you may observe) yet our flock of witchy wenches nor yet forsook their nerve) and embracing a ritual dialogue with forces of the earth one swung her mighty sword and leapt: a dance of might and mirth.. swirling, leaping, pearl and plain she felt a sudden slash of pain her tiny foot was cleft and splade sliced by the might of merlin's blade but surely, know ye, all and few that merlin's blade's a symbol true struck a wiccan girl and cleft he struck, and run, the girl was left. She gazed upon the bloody stain and said, these men are all the same.... and merlin short of sight, a wonder, he aimed down south, but struck down under.... freda (from downtown sunny Austria, home of many a magic sword...) |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: Charley Noble Date: 23 Jul 08 - 10:41 PM What did the Wiccan say when she stabbed her foot with her sword? Which foot was witch? I'm no longer well heeled? I'm pierced to the sole? Ouch? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: Les in Chorlton Date: 23 Jul 08 - 12:43 PM I now realise that when Lionel Harvey stabbed me in the foot, in a gardening related incident at school in 1960, he was in fact trying to engage me in rituals of the Wiccan kind. Oh how my life could have been so different! The Headteacher, who later went on to die on the school stage in a smoking related incident, interogated us at great length, doubting the gardening explantion and clearly searching of strange practices. All this is true L in C |
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Subject: RE: Song Challenge - Wiccan Woes From: SINSULL Date: 23 Jul 08 - 12:37 PM He deserved an injured foot for smashing that guitar. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challeng - Wiccan Woes From: katlaughing Date: 23 Jul 08 - 11:41 AM Leaves me wondering why on earth someone into Wicca needed to do this in a cemetery. Not that I have anything against cemeteries, just see no need to to perform a ritual of thanksgiving in one. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challeng - Wiccan Woes From: MMario Date: 23 Jul 08 - 10:39 AM A fiction series I'm reading is based on the "everything has it's price" model of magic - I'd say in this case the price for a gratitude of good luck is a little bad luck. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challeng - Wiccan Woes From: GUEST,Volgadon Date: 23 Jul 08 - 10:34 AM Ok, not a reply to the challenge, but this reminds me of something that happened to an Israeli musician, Aviv Gefen, who is sort of Dylan meets the Ramones with Marylin Mansonish makeup. He decided to smash his guitar after a concert, but he shattered his foot instead. |
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Subject: RE: Song Challeng - Wiccan Woes From: SINSULL Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:24 AM I lost an "e" - Challenge |
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Subject: Song Challeng - Wiccan Woes From: SINSULL Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:23 AM There's a song in this: LEBANON, Ind. - A woman accidentally stabbed herself in the foot with a 3-foot-long sword while performing a Wiccan good luck ritual at a cemetery in central Indiana. Katherine Gunther, 36, of Lebanon, pierced her left foot with the sword while performing the rite at Oak Hill Cemetery, police said. Gunther said she was performing the ceremony to give thanks for a recent run of good luck. The ceremony involves the use of candles, incense and driving swords into the ground during the full moon. Gunther said was aiming to put the sword in the ground, but hit her foot instead. "It wasn't the first time I performed the ritual, but it was the first time I put a sword through my foot," she said. Gunther immediately pulled the sword out of her foot, and her companions took her to Witham Memorial Hospital, where she was kept a couple days for treatment. No charges were filed, police said. The Wiccans were warned that being in the cemetery in the city about 20 miles northwest of Indianapolis after posted visiting hours constitutes trespassing. Wicca is a nature-based religion based on respect for the earth, nature and the cycle of the seasons. |
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