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BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure

Richard Bridge 25 Apr 11 - 12:48 PM
Will Fly 24 Apr 11 - 12:58 PM
ollaimh 24 Apr 11 - 11:22 AM
Beer 23 Apr 11 - 10:00 PM
Bonzo3legs 23 Apr 11 - 09:54 PM
The Fooles Troupe 23 Apr 11 - 09:51 PM
Charley Noble 23 Apr 11 - 09:16 PM
gnu 23 Apr 11 - 08:10 PM
Carol 23 Apr 11 - 05:38 PM
Janie 23 Apr 11 - 02:53 PM
gnu 23 Apr 11 - 02:50 PM
Janie 23 Apr 11 - 02:40 PM
fat B****rd 23 Apr 11 - 02:37 PM
artbrooks 23 Apr 11 - 02:36 PM
Janie 23 Apr 11 - 02:35 PM
GUEST,Eliza 23 Apr 11 - 02:30 PM
Charley Noble 23 Apr 11 - 02:24 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 23 Apr 11 - 01:35 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Apr 11 - 12:48 PM

I'm alarmed at the statement that people could resume driving before they were back to normal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Apr 11 - 12:58 PM

Music is also good for keeping the brain active...


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: ollaimh
Date: 24 Apr 11 - 11:22 AM

a friend sent me a study a few years ago that showed that meditators and chess players had statictically significant lower levels of all forms of age related dementia.

so take up chess and meditate!!

i expect go or other advanced reasoning games whould be as good


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Beer
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 10:00 PM

Carol, My sympathies as well.
Very sorry to hear this.
adrien


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 09:54 PM

Interesting that in the Buenos Aires Tango hall we visited this afternoon, the average age of the old timer male dancers I would estimate to be 80!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 09:51 PM

Yes Charley, I figure that it won't worry me, as I'll be out of it, but the effect on those who do want to hang around me will not be nice...

I also guess that I'll be alone in my head, as most of 'the voices' will die out as the infrastructure goes... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 09:16 PM

Alzheimers is probably the disease that most of us dread dealing with the most, for ourselves or for any one of our love ones. We would all like to know there is a major breakthrough, and maybe someday there will be.

So far I've been lucky. But that's not a cure.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: gnu
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 08:10 PM

Oh dear, Carol. My sympathies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Carol
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 05:38 PM

Apparently the drug is undergoing the Phase 3 Trial and it would be great if it works but after my husband died due to the effects of a drug on a Phase 3 Trial I'm keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for the people on the Trial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Janie
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:53 PM

Oops. I had my cursor in the wrong place and accidentally inserted some of my own text into the probation citation.

The correct citation reads as follows:

Professional Misconduct (1/29/07)
Issued To: Dr Edward Lewis Tobinick; License # G37710
Nature of Complaint:
The Physician committed professional misconduct when he advertised from 2000 to 2002 about an off-label use of Etanercept that he had patented under the name DiskCure (Registered Trademark) as a new and innovative approach for back or neck pain without surgery.
There was no published studies until May 2002.
Action Taken:
The Board has Suspended the Physician's license to practice medicine for sixty days with the suspension STAYED and his license placed on Probation for one year to include the following:
The Physician shall complete a course in prescribing practices.
The Physician shall complete a course in Ethics.
The Physician shall obtain a practice and billing monitor.
The Physician shall not supervise physician assistants.
State: California
Issued By: State of California


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: gnu
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:50 PM

Could be like the cure for cancer discovered in Halifax... government funded reasearch to start... now it's in the hands of large drug companies so it will take years for them to get exclusive rights and patents and then it will cost an arm and both legs... maybe all the legs for certain cancers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Janie
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:40 PM

There were a couple of bloggers who also had very succinct criticism of the many major news outlets that picked up and repeated this story (vs researching and reporting it.)

I haven't run across anything that indicates these "miraculous" results have lead to any major controlled studies in the 2 years since this was reported. I did run across an expensively produced youtube video featuring Dr. Tobinick promoting this off-label use.

Be sure to read that he had stock and patents and stood to experience significant financial gain....


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:37 PM

Definitely a good thing. Let's hope there is always cash available for genuine solutions to problems such as Alzheimer's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:36 PM

I wouldn't get too excited about a three-year-old newspaper article.


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Janie
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:35 PM

or maybe not....

The drug manufacturer's statement

The physician....

Professional Misconduct (1/29/07)
Issued To: Dr Edward Lewis Tobinick; License # G37710
Nature of Complaint:
The Physician committed professional misconduct when he advertised from 2000 to 2002 about an off-label use of Etanercept that he had patented under the name DiskCure (Registered Trademark) as a new and innovative approach for back or neck pain without surgery.

A quick search also turned up very appropriate criticisms of major media outlets for grabbing this story and running with it (It was very widely repeated vs actually researched and reported) by many major news outlets at the time.
There was no published studies until May 2002.
Action Taken:
The Board has Suspended the Physician's license to practice medicine for sixty days with the suspension STAYED and his license placed on Probation for one year to include the following:
The Physician shall complete a course in prescribing practices.
The Physician shall complete a course in Ethics.
The Physician shall obtain a practice and billing monitor.
The Physician shall not supervise physician assistants.
State: California
Issued By: State of California


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:30 PM

Reminds me of that film The Sleepers, where dopamine woke people up after years in a coma. I'd dearly love a drug which gave me back my memory, I'm getting more absent-minded every day! Seriously though, I'm thinking of my poor mother who had senile dementia (probably Alzheimer's) and she didn't recognise my father after fifty years of marriage, he was so sad. If this drug becomes widely used, what a superb thing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 02:24 PM

Still very experimental.

Well, a breakthrough would certainly be nice.

Interesting report.

Charley Noble


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Subject: BS: Alzheimers - Possible Cure
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 01:35 PM

It's a Daily Mail link, so if you're a Paperist...beware! ;0)

However, the subject matter is well worth a read. It sounds amazing.

Alzheimer's Breakthrough


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