BS: Breakthrough moment for equality

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: robomatic
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 07:14 PM

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Smoke it outside.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 06:48 AM

Women are abused from Darwinian brawn but when it is due to extortion in the work place, it is deliberate in the first degree.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 12:15 AM

First of all, I suspect that ALL women have stories to tell about all manner of idiocies served up by the brawnier sex but there are gradations in offenses. I, for one, have never had a co-worker or boss or even an actual stranger expose himself to me or masturbate in my presence or perform any of the more egregious actions that are being described. I have been tweaked and pinched and had a bra or two snapped but not much more than that.

My question or observation: Are those infinitely worse actions common? They seem so over-the-top I cannot wrap my head around it.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 12:00 AM

On review I would give Garrison a get out of jail free card since the rumors I heard involved broken hearts which may have an element of retribution. Garrison said he touched the woman's back. Technically we all know the back is connected to the vagina but so is a toe.

We speak different languages, so what.

The Chinese do not use male or female pronouns so they think differently compared to us in many culturally subtle ways

If you understood the letter to Genghis Khan at the start of the predictive war thread, you understand or translate more than you claim.

Perhaps having a Julius Feiffer mind set would help.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 08:48 PM

Donuel:

I'm still hoping the same thing about you. You seem too inlove with your own free form word associations which may or may not make sense but sound too good to wait for a rational relationship with fact (not unlike a certain President). I actually believe you've gotten better or more mature and that's cool.

But as you can tell, I call it the way I see it.

As for Garrison, I'll wait for more documentation but it seems as if his good work has been thrown out with the first blush of controversy. You heard rumors X years ago? SO what?

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 08:17 PM

Greg, I'm just being 'rhetorical'.

robomatic, Think about your own words 'witch Hunt'.
Truthfully I was on the cusp of forgiving you for your early attitudes and hoped a new maturity had replaced the younger troll.
Your core has not changed. Nor should it change. I was selfishly just hoping. However if your remarks are taken as satire they are cutting edge SNL stuff.

As for Garrison I heard the rumors 5 years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 07:46 PM

This has become a witch hunt.

John Oliver and his program: 'Last Week Tonight' have taken to calling the current White House/ Russia potential scandal "Stupid Watergate"

What's going on now is Stupid Soviet Purge.

It has recently claimed Garrison Keillor.

We need some folks to stand up against the climate of fear we seem to be mired in and secretly enjoying. Apparently Minnesota Public Radio wasn't up to the task.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 05:40 PM

Ya think, Don? You suggesting I don't know that?

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 05:25 PM

Greg you are getting a glimpse of what women are faced with these last few centuries.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 05:22 PM

I agree with you entirely, Mrrzy, but I also think that the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" is worth keeping in mind.........

Things seem to be getting a little too lynch-mobby in some cases.

(Ducks, anticipating an avalanche of shit)

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 03:32 PM

And before this all broke the surface,
we were all shaking our heads over Bill Cosby.

I looked at some of the allegations.
Not all of it was after hours and behind closed doors, in his case.

Cosby did some prowling and pouncing on the job,
in the backstage / dressing-room areas.
Sure it was behind the scenes,
but it was still on the job.
The women he approached there
(one of them was more-than-approached, but let's not go further)
were there because they were performers as well,
and were about to perform,
on stage or in one case
ON CAMERA.

I mean, this is like suicide by cop!
Did you read Janis Ian's account? She was a teenager, and female.
Luckily she had a chaperone and so Cosby looked but didn't touch.

How dare any performer do that to their fellow performers,
on the job! That is beyond all reason.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 01:13 PM

Garrison Keillor is the latest icon to fall from sexual extortion accusations. The whole concept that extortion is permissible in our society needs a gross rewrite. It is deeply ingrained. It is even the first tool in the FBI toolbox. Change needs a carefully guided hand.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 12:14 PM

Well, it hasn't been gotten yet. But this is a definite start in the right direction.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 09:25 AM

Because the other half of the population are women.

Mrzzy is right

it took a Nixon to open China
It took a W to get Obama
It took Trump to have equality.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 08:51 AM

Many of us who worked in the 70's are kinda about-timey about this... and if we have that pussygrabber to thank, well, thanks, asswipe.

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 08:24 AM

Why should the goal be only half the population?

Subject: RE: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 08:24 AM

Extortion is no longer a weapon men may use with impunity.

Matt Lauer is the most powerful person at NBC and is fired for sexual extortion today.

Subject: BS: Breakthrough moment for equality
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 07:33 AM

After centuries of subjugation and suppression by politics, religion and culture, WOMEN are nearing a moment of equality.
Just like the emergence of freedom for the gay community, it is happening rapidly with relentless pressure.

I have seen the past heroes of feminism struggles from Chautauqua to Corn Hill but the current leaders are without number and is nearing a historical moment in the US.

Half the world population with equality is the goal but an equality in the USA is a promising start.