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Obit: Seattle Slew
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: katlaughing Date: 09 May 02 - 09:12 AM Ah...my son has sung the praises of that Museum, Spaw. Says it is a must see for when we visit. Don't know how you missed that one, thanks for the comments.:-) You're probably right about Secretariat, but Man O'War was the first I remember learning about, so I think he has a special place in my memory which none of the others can eclipse.:-) |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: catspaw49 Date: 09 May 02 - 09:05 AM Kat, I missed that story the first time around and I'm glad you linked it.....wonderful story. BTW, Man O' War never raced in the Kentucky Derby although he did win the Preakness and the Belmont. Stories differ, but the owner felt the race in May was too early for a 3 year old and never entered him. He came along at a time when horse racing was needing a shot in the arm. Certainly a great horse and when combined with his excellent stud record, probably worthy to be voted the #1 Horse of the Century. I would still place him at #2 though because on the basis of racing alone, I can't imagine (and the records show) a greater horse than Secretariat. His stud career wasn't much but in every other way from smarts to heart, he has to be at the top. Anyone who has a chance needs to visit Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington. It's a beautiful facility with a fantastic museum laid out as well as any I have ever seen. We've been there a time or two and they do a fine job of keeping everything changing as well with short term exhibits to compliment the permanent things. Great place! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: katlaughing Date: 09 May 02 - 06:04 AM Please do not be offended. I posted the pronounciation I'd always heard in response to Genie's query...not meant as a slight to you, at all. Genie, neat anecdote. Thanks! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: GUEST,Seattle Slow Date: 09 May 02 - 03:26 AM If it's any consolation, here's a thread about the birth of a new colt. Kat, when I posted the thread, I thought "Slew" was spelled "Slough" and that it referred to a body of water. I had HEARD the name many times but never seen it spelled. (Thanks for the correction, Genie.) Metchosin, your Cammie sounds like a fine mare. Glad she has had such a long run, though I know her passing will grieve you sorely. Slow In Seattle |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: Genie Date: 09 May 02 - 02:54 AM Thanks for that thread, Kat. Neat poem! Interesting that Man O' War lived about 2 years longer than even Seattle Slew.
My mom told me a story many years ago about the time when hundreds or thousands of folks wanted to see Man O' War, after he had retired to stud-dom. One gentleman had travelled hundreds of miles to see the great stallion, only to be turned away because the hour was getting late. He was told he could put his name on a waiting list. Genie |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: katlaughing Date: 09 May 02 - 01:50 AM I always heard it pronounced as slew which rhymed with clew/clue. I thought about Man O'war, too and, if you can stand the stupid pop-ups, there are some good links and interesting info on him here at about.com. Seems he sired a Triple Crown winner, and broke plenty of records himself, but never won all three. He was voted the best or most influential horse or some such of the 20th century. Mets, your Cammy sounds really sweet. You know what they say...as long as their teeth and feet hold up...those old ones we grow up with and our kids grow up with leave such an indelible mark on our hearts, don't they? Is she in any of the pix you sent me a few years ago, of your trek up the mountains in the snow? |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: Genie Date: 09 May 02 - 01:32 AM Sharon, thanks for posting that list of winners. I'm surprised not to find the name "Man O' War" there. He's so famous that I was sure he had been a triple crown winner. He was a Derby winner, wasn't he? Re: "slough" and "slew" and the famous stallion's name, I used to think he was "slew/slough" as in a small, muddy estuary. Was he "slew" as in "Samson slew ...Philistines with the jawbone of an ass?" I'd guess he wasn't "slew" as in "slewfoot." Anyone know? Anyway, to paraphrase Charlotte's Web, "SOME HORSE!" Genie
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: Metchosin Date: 09 May 02 - 12:13 AM kat, our wee Cammy is only three years his junior but, here's hoping, she makes it as far as your daughter's beloved Martini. Thanks for the touching link to the story, there are some uncanny parallels. In my mind's eye I can still can see her and our wee Ceilidh, smokin' the competition in the "ride a buck". This past damp winter was hard on her, especially with her arthritus and she's dropped some weight. I finally bit the bullet and have started her on glucosamine. Other than that, she's still her old curmugeonly self and her trot, despite her stiffness, still floats. And she's always the first thing, even before the rest of the family, that our daughter enquires of, when she calls home. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: CapriUni Date: 08 May 02 - 11:46 PM If Seattle Slew was she, there's a lot of very confused mares out there. Not to mention all the foals !!! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: dick greenhaus Date: 08 May 02 - 10:30 PM If Seattle Slew was she, there's a lot of very confused mares out there. SS was as successful at stud as he was on the track; retired only last year. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: 53 Date: 08 May 02 - 08:39 PM I saw this on the news last night. Alas she was a good horse,and she'll be missed. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: dick greenhaus Date: 08 May 02 - 06:27 PM Didn'ty Seattle Slew make some folk LPs under an assumed name? |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: katlaughing Date: 08 May 02 - 06:01 PM My daughter's Tamarans Martini had spunk enough...maybe she was waiting for him across the rainbow bridge. My daughter was born the same year he won the Triple Crown. I was glued to the tv, watching it...he was such a magnificent being. Sad to hear he is gone. Mets...hope your old Dame stays well, but when she has to go, I hope it is as easily as old "Mart" did...just went out to pasture, lay down and let go. So long, Slew... kat |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: Metchosin Date: 08 May 02 - 05:01 PM So long old boy, you've earned your rest. Say hello to Northern Dancer for me when you get there. My dear old Dame Camero will probably be following you in awhile. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slew From: SharonA Date: 08 May 02 - 02:41 PM Genie: According to the dictionary I have, "slough" can be pronounced "slü" ("sloo"), but also "slou" (rhymes with "cow"), or "sluff".... confusing! I too hope that a JoeClone will fix the thread title to the correct spelling. What a sad day for horse racing fans. Hard to believe that Seattle Slew won the Triple Crown so long ago – 1977! Also hard to believe that there's been no Triple Crown winner at all since 1978. But then, before Secretariat won in 1973, there hadn't been one since Citation in 1948 – another 25 years! Here's a page that lists all Triple Crown winners and their jockeys, along with those horses that won the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness but couldn't pull off the Belmont Stakes win: http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/ce/feature/0,1518,2287695_10,00.html Rest in peace and green pastures, Seattle Slew. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: RUN FOR THE ROSES (Dan Fogelberg) From: Lonesome EJ Date: 08 May 02 - 12:18 PM RUN FOR THE ROSES By Dan Fogelberg Produced by Dan Fogelberg and Marty Lewis
Born in the valley and raised in the trees
Oh, the long lazy mornings in pastures of green,
(chorus) And it's Run for the Roses as fast as you can.
From sire to sire, it's born in the blood: |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: CapriUni Date: 08 May 02 - 12:03 PM Awwwww..... 'tis a sad day indeed... Ever since I was a kid of age 8, riding horses has been my primary physical therapy (I have CP, and cannot walk without crutches, and even then, not easily, and horses increase my strength and independance, even after I leave the saddle), and though I'll never ride thouroughbred like Slew, the spirit and generosity of all the "common" horses I've known has both inspired and humbled me. If Slew's spirit and strength can be seen by even those unfamiliar with horses, the lost must be doubly felt by those who knew him well. May Epona open wide the gates of the Otherworld to him, and lead him to pasture beneath her sweet apple trees. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 May 02 - 11:49 AM Ah, English. . . I expect "Guest, Seattle Slow" can slough off the "slough" spelling of Slew. SRS ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: catspaw49 Date: 08 May 02 - 04:29 AM Legendary Triple Crown Winner Dies By RICHARD ROSENBLATT AP Racing Writer published 09:01 PM - MAY 07, 2002 Eastern Time Seattle Slew always had a sense of timing. Winner of the 1977 Triple Crown and sire of more than 100 stakes winners, the big black stallion died Tuesday _ 25 years to the day after his victory in the Kentucky Derby. For the first time since Sir Barton won the Derby, the Preakness and Belmont Stakes in 1919, there is no living Triple Crown winner stabled anywhere in the world. A big gangly yearling who turned into a muscular colt with "blinding speed and burning determination," Seattle Slew died in his stall at the advanced age of 28. He was buried an hour later, beneath a statue in a courtyard at Hill 'n' Dale, a 319-acre farm near Lexington, Ky. Slew, as he was affectionately known, was the only horse to win the Triple Crown while undefeated and his three-year racing career produced 14 wins in 17 races and earnings of $1,208,726. "He was the most complete thoroughbred the industry has seen," owner Mickey Taylor said. "He just kept raising the bar with every record he broke." Bought for a bargain-basement $17,500 by Taylor, a former lumberman from Washington, and former partner Jim Hill, Slew sired 102 stakes winners. They include 1984 Kentucky Derby winner Swale, A.P. Indy, Capote and Slew o' Gold, and have earned more than $75 million in purses. Affirmed, who became the 11th and last Triple Crown winner in 1978, died in January 2001 at 26. Battling the ravages of arthritis, Slew had two spinal fusion operations the past two years, the most recent in March. He was moved from Three Chimneys in Midway, Ky., his home for nearly 17 years, to the quieter Hill 'n' Dale on April 1. Taylor said the change was made because Slew was too close to the breeding shed and it caused him to become agitated when mares arrived. In his final months, the stallion was a bit wobbly because of the second operation. The first one, the owner said, "saved his life." As word spread of Slew's death, floral arrangements began arriving at Hill 'n' Dale, with cards reading: "For Slew" and "For the Taylors." "When he arrived on the farm, it was like seeing the Grand Canyon in person after just seeing it in pictures _ very awe-inspiring," Hill 'n' Dale owner John Sikura said. "He came here in a state of older age and had just gone through major surgery, but you could still see a brightness in his eye and that vigor that let you know that he was different from other horses." Taylor and his wife, Karen, were constantly with Slew the past two years, moving from their Montana home to Lexington to be with him after the first operation. "He had the greatest heart. He was a fighter to the end," Karen Taylor said. Last month, she seemed to sense the end was near for Slew, but had a hard time talking about it. She stood only a few yards away from his huge stall and spoke softy: "We'll just take things day to day with him, and help along the best we can," she said, tears welling in her eyes. "If the time comes, we'll just do what we need to do. We'll need to go on." On Saturday, Derby day at Churchill Downs, Karen Taylor and Jean Cruguet, Slew's jockey, presented a trophy after the first race _ the Seattle Slew Tribute. "It was a privilege to be on a horse like that," Cruguet said Tuesday from Keeneland. "On the biggest days, he won the biggest races. He had a good life. He did everything a horse could do." In an interview last week with The Associated Press, Slew's trainer Billy Turner called the colt one of the toughest to hit the race track. "I knew I had a horse who was different from the rest," Turner said. "I knew when you see a horse go that fast with no effort, that's different. He was a good student with tremendous energy and phenomenal ability. All I had to do was control it. ... He had blinding speed and burning determination. My job was to get him to accept competition and other horses." Slew's retirement in 1978 at age 4 seemed premature, but as a stallion his earning power was easily into the tens of millions of dollars. The Taylors made a fortune breeding Slew, earning fees well over $100,000 per mare. After Slew's first operation, he was pulled from the breeding line, but he was back in business last year, with 43 of 46 mares in foal. His last breeding session was Feb. 23. Mickey Taylor described Slew's walk recently, saying: "He looks like a crab, a bad crab," when his front legs go one way and his hind legs another. But Slew sure could run in his heyday. He won his first six races and had never trailed heading to the Derby on May 7, 1977. When the Derby began, Slew smacked the gate and slammed into a horse next to him. Ridden by Cruguet, Slew regained his stride, and by the time the field hit the first turn, he was on his way to a 1-length victory. In the Preakness Stakes, he was briefly second early on, but won by 1 length. The Belmont was a start-to-finish celebration, with Cruguet standing in the irons and pointing his whip skyward just before Slew crossed the line four lengths in front. "He was the fastest horse I ever rode," Cruguet said. "He was a speed demon, wouldn't let anyone ahead of him. He was a miler, but had great heart to finish first no matter what the distance." At 4, Slew had a new rider in Angel Cordero and new trainer in Doug Peterson. The colt also went out in style, beating Affirmed in the '78 Marlboro Cup and capping his career with a victory in the Stuyvesant Handicap at Aqueduct. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: catspaw49 Date: 08 May 02 - 04:19 AM The "Black Horse," as he was sometimes called........Seattle Slew Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: catspaw49 Date: 08 May 02 - 04:09 AM I guess he wanted to see one more Derby..........Oddly enough, I just posted the following on a thread the other day, a joke based on McGrath's thread title of "Who Slew Johnny." Perhaps Johnny was the victim of a Seattle Slew...........Gawd knows he slew a lot of others. Okay, sorry, but it's Derby weekend and it had to be said. If you don't know, Seattle Slew was one of the greatest American race horses in history, the ultimate "blue collar" horse. Bought for a paltry $17,500, he earned his owners over 1.2 million in just three years and was then valued at 12 million dollars. When put to stud at age 5, he amazingly turned out to be a superlative stud siring a literal "slew" of winners. He was the only horse to enter the Triple Crown unbeaten and then to go ahead and win the Triple Crown. Slew is and will always be remembered for having more heart and courage than any other horse, giving 110% even in his few defeats later on. Ol' Slew is still alive and kicking. In 2001, at age 27, he still put 90% of his mares in foal!!! This was after the first of two neck surgeries. The second, just completed successfully, left him weak but still so "interested" that he had to be moved to another stable because he was too close to the stud barn and wouldn't rest! So now he's gone. A great horse with an inspiring history. Watching Slew race was something special....He hated to train and do all the things that are part and parcel of a Thoroughbred's racing life, but on the track, at the race, he came alive and showed the heart, courage, strength, and determination, that few others possessed on such a grand scale. Goodbye Slew. Thanks for the great memories and the inspiration. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Seattle Slough From: Genie Date: 08 May 02 - 03:47 AM Guest, I think you mean "Seattle Slew." (Pronounced the same, spelled differently.) Here is a link to a news clip about him. Genie
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Subject: Obit: Seattle Slough From: GUEST,Seattle Slow Date: 08 May 02 - 12:36 AM Just heard today that Triple Crown winner Seattle Slough passed away today at the ripe old equine age of 28 years. No doubt he left behind a long line of descendants. BTW, how old would that be in dog years? SS
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