Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: pavane
Date: 02 Jun 02 - 02:16 PM

Just a small reminder that my program HARMONY can put chords to abc format tunes, in modes as well as major keys.

Download it from My site, www.greenhedges.com

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: GUEST,otto mann
Date: 02 Jun 02 - 01:52 PM

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Info/RRTuneBk/Alltunes/country.html

http://members.aol.com/kitchengal/giftunes

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Hilary
Date: 02 Jun 02 - 11:36 AM

Following up wsiwyg's suggestion of Ed Metzler I came across the Flatpicking Tablature Database .... which has jigs/reels & so may be useful if you are interested in tabs/flatpicking ....

Hilary

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 02 Jun 02 - 12:12 AM

If you are interested in standard tuning (for guitar) accompanying chords for fiddle tunes, I would recommend Robin Williamson's fiddle tune book (published by Oak Publications originally, but probably still available somewhere). I agree that you can use different chords to great effect, depending on what you want the tune to sound like. I'm not sure if any of the Williamson book is online.

I primarily accompany tunes in DADGAD. But, that said, in 1982 I saw a concert with Dave Swarbrick and Simon Nicol and was really impressed by Nicol's backing of Swarbrick. He was using standard tuning (he did dropped D for a couple of his solos). His use of relative minor chords, and some quick changes were effective. Nicol's role was playing backing guitar, but watching him, you realized he was doing some amazing stuff, without getting in the way of the tunes.

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 09:06 PM

(Noreen is NK and MR is michaelr)

Jon

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 09:03 PM

Yep, I see now - thanks NK an MR!

Jon

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Noreen
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 08:57 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/folk/acoustic_club/.

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 08:47 PM

Not that I can see from here Michael but you could be (and most likely are) right... give me a better "clue" as to what you are seeing (not meaning to be rude there, it is me who is not understanding) and I'll look into it.. and maybe against all odds learn something (about my links)....

Jon (hoping you see some humour in me and my failings - I have to live with them!!!)

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: michaelr
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 07:51 PM

Jon, your link seems to have some extraneous html in it that makes it look like part of mudcat.

Michael

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: michaelr
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 07:26 PM

Well, Greg, surely "obvious and clear" must be seen as relative terms, depending on the experience of the accompanist. I inferred from our guest Monahan's query that he may be new to accompanying tunes; and I remember well that, when I first started on the same endeavour, much of the time the harmonic structure was anything but obvious or clear to me.

As far as chordal accompaniment, the piano may go further back than the guitar, but my information is that guitar did not become popular in Irish trad playing until the 1950s/60s. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM

MichaelR says chording is non-traditional in Irish music.Well, chording goes as far back as the music has been recorded, for a start; unlike the current fashion for DADGAD playing which I would guess comes from the London folk scene of the 60's.Anda quick trawl through O'Neill's, for example, will show that the most common way of constructing the B part of a fiddle tune is to follow the exact harmonic strucure of the A part. Which would seem an odd way of going aboutthings, unless the musicians were thinking of the harmonic structure of what they were playing.I would go further, and say that traditional Irish fiddle tunes without an obvious and clear harmonic structure (by which I mean easy to put piano or guitar chords to) are extremely rare. Wonderful, beautiful, sure, but very very rare.Irish music, as you would expect,fits smack bang into the northwest European tradition of dance music. Overwhelmingly harmonic( for the last few hundred years, obviously I am not talking of the distant past).

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 02:54 PM

bbc.co.uk/radio2/folk/acoustic_club.

Thanks Terry. I should have thought of that one...

Jon

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Terry K
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 02:50 PM

No - it seems I couldn't, so you'll need to go in longhand.

Cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Terry K
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 02:48 PM

OK I was being lazy - I've now looked up the BBC address, it's at bbc.co.uk/radio2/folk/acoustic_club. Maybe I can even do a clicky for it.

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Terry K
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 02:39 PM

Guest Monahan - go to the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) website and follow the leads through "folk" to their "Virtual Session". They have dozens of Jigs, Reels, Airs, Hornpipes etc, all with full notation and chords. They are all played by a session band so you can play along with them, over and over. It's fantastic and every good folkie should take a look.

Have fun, Terry

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: GUEST,Monahan
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 08:37 AM

Thanks to all. Just looking for some basic chords to give me a basic outline, realizing there's alot of room to roam...

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: michaelr
Date: 30 May 02 - 12:49 AM

Problem is, chording is non-traditional in Irish music, so there really aren't any "right" chords for any given tune, other than, say, "it's in D". Beyond that, it's pretty much up to the accompanist, and very much a matter of personal taste, whether you want to stick to I-IV-V patterns or play substitutions.

To me, that's part of the fun. Start with the basics and experiment from there! Also, most guitarists accompany in DADGAD tuning, which makes chords even more ambiguous.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: M.Ted
Date: 29 May 02 - 04:49 PM

When you do a search at JC's ABC tune finder, download the PDF, GIF, or PNG files--generally at least one, and usually most or all with have chords above the staff--

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Hilary
Date: 28 May 02 - 06:36 PM

oops - sorry !

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Hilary
Date: 28 May 02 - 06:33 PM

Hi again,

Having looked at my bookmarked pages, the best site I have found is

The Prof's Traditional Pages

which has quite a few jigs/reels

bye

Hilary

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Hilary
Date: 28 May 02 - 06:30 PM

Hi again,

Just had a look at my bookmarked pages - the best I found :

The Prof's Traditional Pages

- the site has quite a few jigs/reels.

Hilary

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Hilary
Date: 28 May 02 - 06:28 PM

Hi again,

Just had a look at my bookmarked pages - the best I found :

The Prof's Traditional Pages

- the site has quite a few jigs/reels.

Hilary

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Hilary
Date: 28 May 02 - 06:27 PM

Hi again,

Just had a look at my bookmarked pages - the best I found :

The Prof's Traditional Pages

- the site has quite a few jigs/reels.

Hilary

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: GUEST,hilary, not logged in
Date: 28 May 02 - 05:58 PM

Hi Monahan

There are hundreds of sites for lyrics/scores/ABC, but very little folk music with chords anywhere.(Pop or rock - no problem). - & since I have been learning the guitar, believe me I have been looking.

JC's is the usual one cited - but that has very few tunes with chords. Individuals here have been very kind responding to specific requests.

I'm not sure why it's the case - maybe guitarists all assume the rest can easily put chords to tunes. Personally I can write out a tune I know - but putting chords (outside the basic I IV V) I find much harder.

Good luck - I would appreciate it if you pass on any you find.

Hilary

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 May 02 - 05:42 PM

Tunes at Ed Hetzler's site from the Fiddler's Fakebook, and the printed book has chords.

Another good print source is called "Portman's." Have not found buying info yet, just saw it in use at Clarion Folk College.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 27 May 02 - 09:14 PM

There're scores & ABC notations (but without chords) HERE (IrishTunes.net).

~Masato

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 27 May 02 - 08:04 PM

Not that I can think off hand Monahan but there must be some. If you are looking for chord diagrams rather than just chord names, what instrument and tuning are you looking for?

Jon

Subject: RE: Tunes and chords for jigs and reels?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 May 02 - 07:55 PM

Hi, Monahan - try JC's ABC Tune Finder (click) and Web-Wide ABC Index. If you use a program like ABCMUS you can extract chords for the tunes.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: Tunes and chords
From: GUEST
Date: 27 May 02 - 02:01 PM

Anyone have any web sights fir jigs and reels that have chord symbols? Cheers, Monahan