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Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 08 Jun 04 - 02:32 PM In many versions, the third line is- "Who spend your time in piety," rather than "....in rioting." It seems to have been written in the early 19th c., but Malcolm Douglas would know more about that. I presume 'rioting' refers to riotous behaviour and not to rioting on the streets. The relationship of the song to unemployment and labor unrest is interesting. Who sang it, who used it, when was it composed? |
Subject: RE: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: masato sakurai Date: 08 Jun 04 - 01:10 PM Also at the folkinfo Song Database (with midi & sheet music). |
Subject: RE: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 08 Jun 04 - 11:54 AM "Job, the Patient Man," with "The Union Hymn," on Firth b.34(156), is an interesting pairing. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 08 Jun 04 - 11:18 AM The song appeared on broadsides during the 19th century as One God [has] made us all, as Poverty and Contentment, and as Job, the Patient Man. Examples can be seen at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads: Come all you worthy... |
Subject: RE: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: George Papavgeris Date: 08 Jun 04 - 08:52 AM Thanks Joe! |
Subject: ADD: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jun 04 - 04:19 AM There's also this PDF document: http://www.greenjack.btinternet.co.uk/christians.PDF. Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men Come all ye worthy Christians, that dwell within this land Don't spend your time in rioting, recollect you are but a man Be watchful of your latter end, be ready when you're called There is many changes in this world, some rise and some do fall See Job he was a patient man, and a rich man in the past And when he was brought to poverty, his sorrow did increase He bore it all most patiently, no sin did he repine He always trusted in the Lord, and soon got rich again Come all you worthy Christians, that are so very poor Remember how poor Lazarus, lay at the rich man's door A begging for the crumbs of bread, which from his table fell The scripture now informs us all, in Heaven he doth dwell So poor I am contented, no riches do I crave For all things are but vanity, on this side of the grave There is many roll in riches, their glasses will run out No riches we brought into this world, and none can carry out The time it then will come when parted we must be The only difference then remains to joy or misery We all must give a strict account, the great as well as small So recollect my people, one God will judge us all This song was collected by Baring-Gould from John Dingle of Coryton on the 12th August 1904. He was accompanied on this occasion by Cecil Sharp who, it is recorded in the manuscript, noted down the tune. (Volume 2 page 61 No 144c) Source: Sabine Baring-Gould and the folk songs of South-West England, http://www.greenjack.btinternet.co.uk/ |
Subject: RE: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jun 04 - 04:13 AM There's quite an entry at folktrax.org, but I have a hard time figuring it all out:
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: Origins: Come All Ye Worthy Christian Men From: George Papavgeris Date: 08 Jun 04 - 03:39 AM Can anyone help me with the origins of a song/hymn that my wife and I learned from a scratched live recording of New Gravel 30+ years ago? I looked in the DT to no avail. Lyrics go (from memory): Come all ye worthy christian men that live upon this land, don't spend your time in rioting, remember you're but man. Be watchful of your latter end and be ready when you're called. There are many dangers in this world, some rise and others fall. etc etc I am also trying to trace any recordings by New Gravel, by the way. They were a couple of Londoners - he tall and handsome, she medium height and full of zest. Any help/hints/pointers welcome. |
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