BS: the fat virus...

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 06:53 PM

I don't care, all you skinny bints won't survive a hard winter..... there's a reason for carrying this surplus around....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: skarpi
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 06:40 PM

We are what we eat.
Thats all .
Change the food and some good things will happens .
Good things happens slow, and it should be like that.
All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 05:36 PM

Bill D - this is a scientist who has charted the rise in average weight and the rise in the anti-bodies to the virus - mostly found in heavy persons. Contentious but merits more study. He is bullish with sceptics - having spent 10 years or maybe 20 collecting the stats and charting the trend. Like I said - it doesn't cause obesity but the virus and obesity live in the same neighbourhood. The assumption is compelling but unproven to all but this guy. I think "smoking gun" is the phrase we would use. The question is - did it hit the target or was there another sniper?

When I had ME it was only my pig-headed approach to exercise that kept me from slobbing around and giving-in to lethargy. The cookie jar could so easily have been close to the couch. The after effects of ME hang around for years and EVERY muscle aches. Other viruses could do the same.

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 10:35 PM

it's not a 'virus', it's DNA which predisposes people to obesity, and medical science keeping unhealthy people alive longer than they normally would live--then bad eating habits making it all worse for many...Fat was at one time a survival trait in some areas, allowing people to live long enough to reproduce, now it is mostly a hazard when they live that long anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 07:49 PM

To those of us who read the New Scientist this is old news.

There is a scientist who can prove it by statistics. Yea, quite. His theory is not universally accepted but he is almost arrogant in his assertions.

The only problem I have with the stats is that all too often two seemingly linked phenomena like the prevalence of the antibodies to a specific virus and obesity can sometimes be chance and more often is linked by a common cause but neither are the cause - only the effect of the as yet unidentified stimulus.

But the guy is probably on to something. AND it doesn't cause obesity - it pre-disposes people. Like being tall gets you noticed in a crowd. The rest is down to - well you've heard it all before.

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 07:47 PM

I guess eating less and excercising more was just too much like hard work...

Subject: RE: BS: the fat virus...
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 07:35 PM

Here's one story on the "fat virus".

And here is a whole mess of otherts.

But I don't believe it.

A

Subject: BS: the fat virus...
From: tarheel
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 07:29 PM

ok gang...give up on the diets,excercise programs,running,jogging,gym workouts,sauna baths!
it's official now...we all got fat by someone sneezing on us and we're just going to have to live with it! can you belive this? our local tv news channel is doing a feature on just this story!omg,what can we do now!
next they'll be telling us that we cant live forever because somewhere along the way,our parents made us drink water!!!
geeez,all those people that are starving to death in 3rd world countries can be saved now...just sneeze on them!