BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 12:06 PM

Look at those bushes out there, they're movin' and there's Minutemen behind every one of them.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: JJ
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 08:47 AM

From the Washington Post, 6 April 2005:

Millions of Americans will be required to show passports when they reenter the United States from Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean by 2008 under new rules announced yesterday by the State and Homeland Security departments.

The new policy, designed to thwart terrorists from exploiting the relative ease of travel in North America, means that Americans who lack U.S. passports will have to obtain them to travel between the United States and neighboring nations. It also will require Mexicans and Canadians to present either passports or another official document to enter this country, with details to be determined.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 03:33 AM

lol, Peace. I figure if I have to stay home I'll get housebroken- or at least it won't matter!

No, Guest, it wasn't quite that bad. And in all truth it probably wasn't as bad as the memory of it that I've retained.

But I am not kidding. It was chilling.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: number 6
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 10:43 PM

Me ... 6 posted that at 10:42 p.m.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 10:42 PM

Jeeeez Ebbie .... did they have Tuetonic accents, walking down the aisles shouting 'papers', 'papers' ... reminds me of scene from the movie 'Julia'.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 10:42 PM

Heck, Ebbie, they can't even get me house broke yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 10:32 PM

There is a L   O   N   G border between Alaska and Canada, and a great deal of it is sparsely settled if at all. Wonder if there's much of a problem there? Presumably you could go across the border on foot but I can't imagine why you would want to. You'd probably starve to do death if you did't freeze first.

Last winter when I left Vancouver British Columbia, and crossed into the USA in Washington state we stopped. Homeland Security swarmed onto the train - with dogs that were straining at the leash yet - and it was worse than the movies. Unsmiling and brusque, the agents scanned our papers and after a couple of questions, handed them back without a word and went on to the next person.

I felt not so much like a criminal as a prisoner.

Between what the airlines are doing in raising the discomfort level in the seating and the meals and what you go through in crossing surface borders, they're going to get us trained to just stay home.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 07:11 PM

In Montana, we have a tv psa for homeland security that shows the true life experience of a rancher on the highline who noticed a guy coming south on a bicycle. He and his son went out on the road to talk to the guy, and as the rancher testifys in the ad, just didn't feel right about it. So, he called it in to border patrol. They show a number to call and.... "if it looks suspicious, call it in." Wonder what the result was.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:35 PM

They busted a ring last week that specialized in undocumented Indians and Pakistanis. The smuggling ring first drew authorities' attention in January 2005 after border-patrol agents got a tip that three men in Oroville, a border town in north-central Washington, had purchased maps of the border and asked about law enforcement activities there. "Duh...I yam a smuggler...you guys inna bar got any idea of a good place to cross the border?" More here.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:23 PM

About as difficult as a walk through the park.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:16 PM

"You'll be in the US jus' like that."

You may not get out fer 20 years or so, but you'll get in.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:12 PM

It wouldn't be hard at all to get across unseen if nobody saw 'em. 8-)

Consider anywhere on the Great Lakes, too. Lots of booze came South from Canada during Prohibition. Put a load on a pack string and lead 'em South.

Subject: RE: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:09 PM

Simpler than that, LH. Just present yer passport at the border and tell the guy or gal that you are

1) selling cattle
2) soft wood lumber
3) asbestos
4) William Shatner blow-up dolls

and the 92,347 people with you are there to handle yer luggage. You'll be in the US jus' like that.

Subject: BS: Western Canada/US border crossings...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:06 PM

I've often wondered how the USA and Canada secure their border areas out west, where there is a vast area of empty land and no rivers or other such natural barriers to prevent people simply crossing the border on foot or on horseback, for example. They don't have a fence or a wall, so how can they watch that whole border? Do people just walk across? I'm assuming they do.

In Alberta and B.C. you have a lot of forested and mountainous areas bordering on the USA. It should be a cinch for hikers to cross the borders undetected. Then in the prairies there is a tremendously long border with a few roads and a few towns and lots of empty land.

Then you have another extensive area of forested land meeting at Quebec/New York State and on east from there.

If someone wanted to just walk across in any of these areas, what would be their chances of making it unnoticed?

*Why am I asking? Well...we're cookin' up this little invasion plan here, see? We start by infiltrating hundreds of thousands of Canadian beavers, via the waterways. And that's just the beginning.