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BS: Public Enemy

Kaleea 08 Jun 06 - 10:21 PM
Grab 08 Jun 06 - 02:10 PM
Wavery 08 Jun 06 - 11:39 AM
JohnInKansas 08 Jun 06 - 12:20 AM
Big Al Whittle 08 Jun 06 - 12:04 AM
Bobert 07 Jun 06 - 08:26 PM
robomatic 07 Jun 06 - 07:57 PM
Amos 07 Jun 06 - 07:14 PM
GUEST 07 Jun 06 - 04:43 PM
GUEST,Mack 07 Jun 06 - 04:23 PM
Amos 07 Jun 06 - 02:45 PM
Ebbie 07 Jun 06 - 02:10 PM
Don Firth 07 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Kaleea
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 10:21 PM

whutt??? dubblepew aka "the decider" has been a naughty boy?? gosh, ah'm real souprized!


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Grab
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 02:10 PM

The national grid is certainly "business as usual" - it was inevitable that it'd fall down sometime, but it's not Bush's fault.

Nor were the New Orleans levees, which had been underfunded for 30 years.

Nor is the tax code - all western countries seem to have these obscenely crufty tax codes that even the accountants can't figure out. (The UK actually goes one better - even the tax office can't figure it out. And in a neat twist, if the tax office charge you the wrong amount, *you* are liable for interest on the difference if they realise later that they screwed it up.)

Nor is outsourcing abroad. It's always happened, and the outsourcing of call centres is a natural consequence of the cheap high-speed internet connections that we all want.

Everything else though - yep, I'd agree with that.

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Wavery
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 11:39 AM

Yes, Wee, I'm actively pursuing change within my limited means and within the law, of course. But I'm also a part of the environment, and I'm not anti-establishment.

For example, I have unwavering respect for our soldiers fighting overseas. I think they are incredibly strong and brave, even if I don't always agree with how the war is being prosecuted.

And I feel ... relieved to learn that someone like Al Zaqarqi is dead. I'm glad. And I'm sickend that I feel that way, because I wish I were better than that. Taking joy in his death, to me, seems little different than the joy he took in killing. But part of me wants to see this revenge.


Lest the message become lost in party politics, please note that although Republicans are now in power, I really feel that the blame goes all around. For me, no one person or party gets all the credit ... even if some people or parties deserve more credit than others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 12:20 AM

The link given by Amos above appears to be a "dry hole," with nothing in it now. The Boston Globe, where the link took me, appears to want money for a peek at anything more than a day old(?).

I think I found the same article, at Bar group will review Bush's legal challenges. There is some additonal text not quoted above, of course.

As posted at this link, the reporter's credit line is omitted; but it still carries the ©Globe.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 12:04 AM

So, are you getting organised to prevent the same party getting elected next time?

No use bitching about what a democracy produces if you're not politically active.

If he's as bad as you say, should be no trouble at all to get folks to vote against him and the party who elected him as leader. No use bitching that he owns the media - in these days of the internet, there are surely massive opportunities to to organise a decent opposition.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 08:26 PM

Danged!!!

An' folks here accuse me of being a Bush basher???


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 07:57 PM

I'd add that instead of executive salaries ranging to 60 x lowest employee's salary as in the 60's they now range at 400 x lowest employee's salary.

Also that instead of top 1% of wealthy people owning 20% of all property the current top 1% own 33% of all property.



A lot of the list contains standard detritus that casts a shadow on any administration what with the attraction that power has for those least responsible in its use.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 07:14 PM

Bar group will review Bush's legal challenges

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | June 4, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The board of governors of the American Bar Association
voted unanimously yesterday to investigate whether President Bush has
exceeded his constitutional authority in reserving the right to
ignore more than 750 laws that have been enacted since he took office.

Meeting in New Orleans, the board of governors for the world's
largest association of legal professionals approved the creation of
an all-star legal panel with a number of members from both political
parties.

They include a former federal appeals court chief judge, a former FBI
director, and several prominent scholars -- to evaluate Bush's
assertions that he has the power to ignore laws that conflict with
his interpretation of the Constitution.

Bush has appended statements to new laws when he signs them, noting
which provisions he believes interfere with his powers.

Among the laws Bush has challenged are the ban on torturing
detainees, oversight provisions in the USA Patriot Act, and
``whistle-blower" protections for federal employees.

The challenges also have included safeguards against political
interference in taxpayer-funded research.

Bush has challenged more laws than all previous presidents combined.

...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/06/04/


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:43 PM

Appears to be business as usual over the past 40 years or so.

Differnt names, same stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: GUEST,Mack
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:23 PM

The only real dangerous thing i see is the massive propaganda.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 02:45 PM

AN excellent list of salient manglings by the worst President the country has ever had.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 02:10 PM

You say that as if it were a bad thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM

You missed one:   

A theocracy, not a democracy, is growing in the United States.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Public Enemy
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 01:36 PM

Oh


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Subject: BS: Public Enemy
From: Wavery
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM

Pass on the fun. Why should anyone be left out?

Subject: The Worst Administration & Congress in U.S. History (and, at this point, the situation has a life of it's own. No one person or party can take full responsibility, or apparently do a damn thing to fix it).

In no particular order, and feel free to add your own...
1.        "Scooter" Libby charged
2.        Carl Rove about to be charged
3.        Dick Cheney should be charged
4.        Jack Abramoff convicted
5.        Tom DeLay charged
6.        Bill Frist under Investigation
7.        Conrad Burns under Investigation
8.        Mike DeWine under Investigation
9.        Bob Ney about to be charged
10.        Duke Cunningham sentenced
11.        Porter Goss & Co. about to be named by Duke
12.        OH Governor Bob Taft charged
13.        Rick Santorum under Investigation
14.        David Safavian indicted
15.        Weakening the FDA for religious right
16.        Preventing Stem Cell research for religious right
17.        Dismantling of PBS for the religious right
18.        Tax cuts during war time, but only significantly cut for the rich
19.        More tax cuts for the rich
20.        Even more tax cuts for the rich
21.        Highest national debt in history
22.        Oil & gas costs at record highs
23.        Big oil profits even higher
24.        Not a single veto in 5 years
25.        War on terror has been a miserable failure, unless you're a terrorist
• The world is against us, not with us
• Bin Laden is still free, "dead or alive"
• Bush is "not giving [Bin Laden] much thought"
• Taliban is thriving in Pakistan
• No WMD's, and they knew it
• No Iraq-Al Qaeda link, and they knew it
• Saddam wasn't a threat, and they knew it
• Rumsfeld sent 150,000 troops into Iraq
• Rumsfeld was warned that 150,000 was far too few
• Rumsfeld had no idea what to do after the fall of Saddam
• Rumsfeld's first comments after the fall of Saddam include the endorsement of Iraqi looting and rioting as "the acts of a free people"
• Iraq is still in chaos, more than three years after "mission accomplished"
• Priceless antiquities in Iraq are destroyed and lost forever
• A theocracy, not a democracy, is growing in Iraq
• Women have few rights in the new Iraq
• Abu Gharib, two words so bad they don't need explanation
• Abu Gharib prison is protected by the new Iraq government from demolition by the U.S., because even the new government of Iraq sees it as an ongoing symbol (and probably future museum) for humanitarian atrocities
• Guantanamo
• Secret CIA prisons apparently scattered across the globe
• North Korea; repressed, starving, desperate, and possibly nuclear
• Iran; see North Korea
• 4 times as many terrorists, post Iraq invasion
• 4 times as many world wide terror attacks, post Iraq invasion
• "Those who are not with us are against us"
• Those who are not with us growing in number every day; now include Spain, Canada, Japan, the Vatican...
• Bush must have misread Putin's "heart"
• United Arab Emirates offered control of US shipping ports
• "National Terror Alerts" abused for political gain
• Massive propaganda introduced as real news, and people believe it
• "Fox News" presents the news; see 'massive propaganda'
• NSA, FBI, CIA sent to spy on it's own citizens, not only foreigners or potential terrorists
• Government officials admit U.S. ports still completely vulnerable
• Chemical production plants even more vulnerable
• Borders still woefully unprotected post 9/11- unless you're a Mexican trying to earn a living doing hard labor most US citizens don't want to do
• Air freight cargo still not screened
• Most air luggage still not screened
• U.S. airport security is regularly circumvented by investigative journalists
• Some journalists arrested and charged with violating airport security, after demonstrating dangerous lapses in airport security
• New Orleans faces imminent destruction
• New Orleans left to be destroyed
• Massive amounts of funding to rebuild New Orleans is squandered or stolen
• New Orleans nowhere near to being rebuilt
• New Orleans levees were inadequate before the hurricane, despite warnings
• Many new Orleans levees are being rebuilt inadequately, despite warnings
• National Guard has inadequate equipment for home emergencies
• National Guard service men and women are not available for home emergencies, because they are fighting a foreign war
• People serving in the U.S. military have critical benefits reduced or eliminated
• People dissatisfied serving in the U.S. military are not permitted to leave even after honorably completing their term of service
• People who want to serve honorably in the military are not allowed to do so if they admit what type of sex they like to have, in private, with like-minded consenting adults
• HUD's Alfonso Jackson
• FEMA's meltdown
• "Heck of a job, Brownie"
• Harriet Meyers
• Harriet gets a make-over
• Harriet still unqualified
• Judge Alito
• One woman left on the Supreme Court
• 43 million Americans left without health insurance
• 11 million American children left without health insurance
• Health care costs more than ever
• New York City loses electricity
• U.S. electrical gird sill in shambles
• U.S. government initially (and incorrectly) blames Canada for electric grid failure
• 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S., and counting
• Most illegal aliens facing prosecution/deportation are the those most taken advantage of in the U.S. and, arguably, most needed by the U.S.
• Massive news coverage of the new "wall" designed to keep Mexicans out
• Massive confusion about why this wall more important than other problems
• Glaring racism illustrated by the proposed wall with Mexico, when the Canadian border is seemingly invisible
• Terrorists wishing to cross a border into the U.S. just need to visit Canada, eh?
• Terrorists wishing to cross a border into the U.S. may do so along the Arizona-Mexico border, as long as they do not look Mexican
• Anyone crossing the border in Arizona who looks Mexican may be shot by one of many "well regulated" militia, giving scary new meaning to the slogan "an Army of One"
• Massive news coverage of the proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to "protect marriage"
• Massive confusion about why this is more important than other problems
• Massive confusion about why the federal government would propose legislation on the institution of marriage when it has always been a matter reserved for the states
• Massive concern over the first proposal, ever, that would write active discrimination, the actual reduction of human rights, into the U.S. Constitution, a document created to explain, expand, and protect rights
• "Strict construction" of the U.S. Constitution becomes popular judicial mantra to prevent danger from "activist judges"
• Re-writing the U.S. Constitution becomes popular government mantra, because "strict construction" doesn't necessarily allow the banning of abortion, limitation of free speech, inclusion of Christian ideology in American schools, and reduction of individual rights
• Any interpretation of the U.S. Constitution allowing for the banning of abortion, limitation of free speech, inclusion of Christian ideology in American schools, and reduction of individual rights, is most definitely not the act of "activist judges"
• Most "Fortune 500" companies pay NO federal income taxes
• Most U.S. citizens have no idea big companies often pay no taxes
• Many U.S. citizens are shocked to learn that U.S. oil companies (posting record profits) are given huge government subsidies in addition to paying no taxes
• 5 million more U.S. citizens are below the poverty line now than in 2000
• More children than ever have been left behind
• U.S. is now ranked 16th (out of 23) in the world for high school science & math education
• U.S. performed dead last in world survey of high school physics education
• A record number of U.S. jobs are being sent overseas
• Many U.S. consumers, demanding telephone customer service with a person, rather than a computer, find it hard to understand the thick accent of the customer service representative in India, the Philipines, Indonisia…
• Bush's second term priority was an attempt to dismantle social security
• Medicare Prescription Drug Plan is a joke, and the most needy can't understand it
• The IRS tax code is now so complex that even IRS agents admit they don't understand it
• Confusion over the most confusing tax code ever is the number one source of federal prosecution, when other reasons to prosecute may not be evident
• You and/or your accountant have probably violated the current federal tax code without any intention to do so
• You and/or your accountant face federal prosecution for tax code violations whether or not you had any intention to do so
• Journalists paid to be impartial are also paid by the government to promote government policies
• CIA agent Valerie Plame, while in service to her government, has her cover blown by her government, as revenge against her husband
• Terry Shiavo is the victim of the shameful use of a private family tragedy for political posturing
• Richard Clarke is put through hell for telling the truth, under oath, before Congress
• CIA officers are now telling the truth on WMDs, and being fired
• Generals who question Rumsfeld are pushed out of service
• Rumsfeld admits he has repeatedly failed and offers to quit, but is kept in service
• Whistleblowers are silenced, slandered, or fired
• Dissent is disloyalty
• Organizations of US Quakers are among declassified targets of current FBI investigations
• There is little remaining legal protection of privacy for US citizens under the Patriot Act
• Under the Patriot Act, criticizing the President may be treason
• Under the Patriot Act, the subject of this email may be treason
• Without ever knowing it, you may become the target of investigation because you read this message, visited this website, or received this email
• Without ever meaning to, you may now be a public enemy

Welcome to the accidental revolution


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