BS: A sad day for British politics

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 03:19 PM

Still fighting the class war Guest. Tell that to public school educated Tony Blair!
G.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 02:48 PM

Please guys, there is no need for this. He has done a lot for the country, how has he reached such heights in the government otherwise. There is no point in this debate if you are fooling about it.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST,Factory wage slave
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 02:40 PM

thats absolutely correct !!

a leader of men

not public school wusses who've never known a moments
genuine struggle and hardship
in their entire pampered lives

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 02:40 PM

Hee hee, how can you type with that strait jacket on?

G.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 02:30 PM

He is a leader of men since his union days. I also think he would have made a great PM.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 01:12 PM

I think he should give up his part-time job as deputy prime minister and court jester to the cabinet, and stick to his full-time job.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST,Hull Huntsman
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 12:35 PM

What Britain lacks today is leadership. It seems that our present leaders no longer inspire us with confidence, but reading your opinions here I have to disagree, John is a great man. The methods sadly used these days to win elections is by flattery. In other words, they telling us what we want to hear, not so with John, he speaks his mind.

Even more disappointing, for many decades our leaders have lacked the wherewithal to write their own speeches and develop their own insights, no so with John. Recently Labour ministers have not only surrounded themselves with spin doctors, but they have become dependent on writers and social scientists. These people have dominated national policy with a mish-mash of disjointed and unproven academic theories -- like achieving peace by negotiating treaties with aggressive dictatorships, or adopting a trade policy that disables our own industrial economy in the face of foreign competition, could you see John standing for that ?

Our ministers lack greatness. They lack vision and leadership. But even more alarming, the British public may have forgotten what a great leader is like. Look back at the good John did for this country.

History provides us with many examples. But there is one Labour minister, above all others, who merits our applause, and it's him. He was the first of his kind -- a man who served as a model for all those who would later employ eloquence in the service of democratic patriotism. John has a likeness to Churchill in his approach.

John is the type of man who sees danger before others apprehend it. As a statesman he opposed bad compromises and false optimism. He is an expert in Middle Eastern affairs and international politics, something Tony Blair depended on.

In this context, most of you have not noticed that a great leader appeared in our country, and you did not recognize him. Could you follow his lead? I somehow doubt it.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST,Phat Phucker
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 11:18 AM

shh..'Giok' careful mate..

"fat fornicating fool" isn't the sort of insult you ought to be
using too freely and on this forum..

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 09:28 AM

Hee hee, you certainly do like our fat fornicating fool of a soon to be ex, and not before time, deputy prime minister.
He's TBs sop to the trade unions, they pay the bills for the labour party, and in return they get John Prescott, not very good value for money is it?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 09:22 AM

John will not go down in the history books as one of Britain's greatest ministers. But, increasingly, he will be seen as a far bigger political figure than contemporary sceptics have allowed far more representative of that uniquely ambivalent mood of Britain in recent years and a far more rounded and caring, if unfulfilled, person.

It is my view that he is a remarkable minister and, indeed, a quite remarkable man. Cynics had a field day ridiculing him. Perhaps that is inevitable given his irresistible tendency to behave like the master of the Big Trick in the circus ring of politics - for whom there is nothing so humiliating as to have it demonstrated, often by fellow tricksters, that the Big Trick hasn't worked.

It is sad he will not run for Prime Minister.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: Mr Happy
Date: 01 Oct 06 - 07:13 AM

'Mr Blair has said privately that John was an asset to British politics.'

I believe this to be a typo, perhaps should read:

'Mr Blair has said privately that John was an ass etc to British politics.'

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 09:32 PM

Both seem to believe in the use of force to resolve disagreement, but Prescott's right hook, although impressive, does less long-term damage to world stability than Bush's ability to cause "shock and awe" (TM)

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 04:54 AM

George has got nothing that John wants to eat, drink, shag or drive. I don't see the common ground.

I think derek Brimstone and Alan bennet might have been better prime ministers.but they had better jobs - I suppose.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: Paul Burke
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 03:45 AM

Don't be silly. The best PM we never had was, according to your taste, Feargus O'Connor, Nye Bevan, Enoch Powell, John Smith or Glenys Kinnock.

I'd like to eavesdrop on a conversation between John Prescott and George Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 03:35 AM

Hull is in mourning, we wish him all the best.

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 01:59 PM

I like the bloke.

..and if any Politician could ever be trusted
to organise a piss up in a brewery..

He'd be a great asset to the folk music community in his retirement

Subject: RE: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 01:50 PM

Oh you do like a laugh don't you, you just love posting JP appreciation threads, and watching people get apoplectic, and fall over each other in their haste to denigrate the fat slob.
I think it's unfair to be rude to JP he's such an easy target, and anyway Mother Nature beat us all to it!
Giok

Subject: BS: A sad day for British politics
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 01:34 PM

John Prescott the greatest Prime Minister we never had, confirmed he would stand down as Labour's deputy leader when Tony Blair leaves Downing Street.

For 12 years as the party's number two. After his speech delegates were shown a video of Mr Prescott's finest moments, it brought a tear to the eyes of many there.

Mr Blair has said privately that John was an asset to British politics.

This is a sad day for all of us.