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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Boarding Party (KC) Date: 21 Dec 99 - 04:03 AM Ahoy the Mudcat, Slipping into your leeward quarter of this here muddy flotila in my lug-rigged pirogue, the Chat Sal. Up forward lays the ghost of the very same Captain Jean Lafitte, hero of the 1814 Battle at Chalmette and a resident of both our Vieux Carree and his own Bayou Barataria. Our Louisiana polititians today carry on the noble tradition of service he established so long ago - pleasure and business should always mix in roughly the same proportions as cane rum to water for grog. At a uniform depth of 14 foot, there's scarcely a weekend goes by without some ill-found, lubberly yacht and her equally ill-found crew being lost on the Lakes of Ponchatrain. Then there's the nautical expericence of living at 4 foot below sea level and staring down the gun barrel of a cat 5 hurricane. We drink those as well (strawberry-flavored formaldahyde) - screwing cotton all day give's one a thirst. Oh, and you should try our mudcat etoufee.
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:04 AM Ah Kendall, you passed your qualification exam... Yes, dont explain the center board cook! Well, looks like this cruse is shaping up, but the steven tabor, lovely schooner, but what folk musican has 700 bucks to spare? WInter cruse story... I was the chief mate on a bug eye rigged skip jack - that we ran as a cattle boat out of Brooklynn. About this time of year, or latter, we got a call for a party to take a cruse in New York bay, and out past the Verisano Bridge, and it was BLOODY FREEZING! They had brought some lovely mulled wine, and were as happy as pigs in shi... very happy. Finally we got up the gumption to ask why the HELL had they decided to go tooling about the harbor in this freezing weather. It turns out they had all been crew in one of the vessles that survived that disasterous Fastnet race (the one where was it 1/3 the boats sank and Ted Turner won, and when asked to comment on the great loss of life, said something like, I won didnt I?) Well, after sailing through a gale like that, they do something stupid every year to celibrate! I think if we work out a cruse, we should wait till it gets a bit warmer, eh? If you want to see a maritime ghost... go down to the River Cafe, at the foot of the Brooklyn bridge. In the park infront of the river you will find an old windless. It was from a Gloster Fishing schooner wreck, that Zek Tilton took and put on the Alice Wentworth. She rotted away in that slip, and that windless is the ghost of Alice Wentworth. How bout someone posting the song about Zek and the Alice A man fit for hanging will never drown Fit for hanging Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: T in Oklahoma (Okiemockbird) Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:08 AM Having asked and received no objection, I clamber aboard, stumbling a little, while the Andrew the Dory makes her way back to port. Who is the officer of the watch ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Roger the skiffler Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:38 AM It is I, TinO, wearing my middie's uniform, a bit tight, well, I HAVE put on a few inches in the years, but better than the jester's outfit. I've got my bosun's call so I'll pipe you aboard. Usually I do it on the kazoo but then they make me walk the plank, dirty rotten swines (bad Bluebottle impression). Can you find your own cabin, I've got to spice this mainbrace? "What shall we do with a drunken..." SPLASH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Blind desert Pete Date: 21 Dec 99 - 11:46 AM Capt Ken? aint thar 7 ropes on a ship i seem to remember at least footropes and manropes. andcantoldtimers use the manhole? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 21 Dec 99 - 02:10 PM nope all lines, only two ropes. a song about the Alice Wentwort eh? ok
SEVEN OLD HOOKERS CAME DOWN THE BAY, OH LOWER THE BOAT DOWN
refrain
There's only one thing that grieves me
We drove her so hard off Pemequid Neck
The women are women and the men are men repeat refrain
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 21 Dec 99 - 02:11 PM TinO - just grab a hold of the wee line trailing behind, and climb back aboard, being careful not to dislodge the any of the six pack hanging from the line, out of sight of our - not on my boat you dont - captain... Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Okiemockbird Date: 21 Dec 99 - 02:21 PM That was 2nd Mate Roger the Skiffler that fell over. I think he found the beer already, 'cause he's still out there, trailing along. T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Willie-O Date: 21 Dec 99 - 06:54 PM So Kendall, were you on the Alice Wentworth back then too? This was early sixties, right? A buddy of mine, Steve Merritt, (now an aging busker in Ottawa) told me he was cabin boy or some such on the same boat when Gordon Bok was mate, and Havilah Hawkins(?) skipper. I'd love to hear more, specially about Hawkins, who I gather was more than half a character... Willie-O |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 21 Dec 99 - 07:55 PM Bud Hawkins was a very bright man. He played the fiddle and was one of the finest skippers/navigators I ever met. I did not know him personally, although I have talked with him on a few occasions. No, I never sailed in the Alice.. at that time I was Captain of the EXPLORER. We just happened to anchor in the same coves as the Alice, and later the MARY DAY did. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Micca Date: 21 Dec 99 - 08:06 PM If this is a DRY ship I'm packing my dunnage and I'm off at the next port, even if I get a VNC for it!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Okiemockbird Date: 21 Dec 99 - 08:30 PM This version of "Whiskey for my Johnny/Whiskey Johnny" differs somewhat from the versions in the DT:
Whiskey for My Johnnie--Long drag shantey
Solo: Oh whiskey is the life of man
Whiskey makes me pawn my clothes
Whiskey makes me feel so sad,
Whiskey took my brains away T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Amos Date: 21 Dec 99 - 08:48 PM An' it's farewell to Sally, an farewell to Sue Awayyy to Rio!!!!! And you who are listening, farewell to you! For we are bound to the Rio Grande! -------------------------- And now we're on the hook, me byes, and the land's all covered with snow. And soon we'll see the pay table, and spend the watch below. Tehn down to the docks, alld ressed in frocks, The pretty ladies stand Saying it's snugger w' me than it is at sea, on the banks of Newfoundland! Hardabaft the lubber clew and overhaul the hardtack! Amos |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:23 PM Roll--- the old chariot a-long, Roll--- the old chariot a-long And roll -------- the old chariot along,And we'll all hang on be-hind.
A plate of hot scouse wouldn't do us any harm,
Chorus And we'll all hang on behind.
A glass of whiskey hot wouldn't do us any harm
Chorus......
Some fresh seapie wouldn't do us any harm A new plum duff wouldn't do us any harm
Well you do get hungry on a long voyage don't ya?
Were you ever in Cardiff bay? Where the folks all shout hooray! Here comes John with his three months pay Riding on a donkey
Hey ho away we go etc.......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Mbo Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:56 PM Whisky is the life o' man Always been since the world began Whisky O! Johnny O! Roll me up from down below Whisky, whisky, whisky O! Roll me up from down below, John Roll me up from down belowwww! --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Amos Date: 21 Dec 99 - 10:04 PM THe tide is high, the wind is low, Leave her, Johnny, leave her! I'll pack my bags and go below, It 's time for us to leave her... So...what is the difference between all these cybersalts and real salts? The palms of their hands. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Cap't Bob Date: 22 Dec 99 - 12:57 AM With all this scuttlebutt going on I think I'd better head for the gedunk stand and pick up some poggy bait. Then I can thrice up my bunk and change the fart sack. If you are looking for some really great cruising The most beautiful cruising grounds in the world are to be found in Canada's North Channel (North Eastern part of Lake Huron). There are thousands of uninhabited islands with hundreds of well protected bays where you can usually find a tree or rock to tie up to and step off onto the beach. Most of the islands are composed of cambrian rock and during the month of July there is an endless supply of plump blue berries to spice up your pancakes. Two years ago I chanced to meet up with the MALABAR a schooner out of Traverse City, Michigan that was taking people on cruises through this area. I think there is another schooner, the MANITOU that does the same thing. The best way to really see the area, however, is on a smaller boat with shoal draft (less than three feet) that will allow you to tuck into some really fantastic spots. I have one particular spot where I tie up under a pine tree that affords afternoon shade. There are natural steps in the rocks that lead to a wonderful sandy bottom swimming hole. Other rocks are shaped like easy chairs. There are a number of smaller boats available for bare boat chartering (quite a few in Gore Bay and probably a lot of other places as well). Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Cap't Bob Date: 22 Dec 99 - 01:08 AM Almost forgot, one other thing. It seems that quite a few of you know Gordon Bok. I have most of his LP's, Tapes, and CD's, however there is one song that I recorded off Public Radio that I do not have in my collection. I would appreciate it if any of you could tell me the title of the LP, CD, or Tape where I could be located. The first verse goes something like this: "Here I am, all alone again, anchored away, to hell and gone again. Home is the sailor, home from the sea ~ home to the mildew, friend to the flea". Anyone know of this one??? Cap't Bob
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Roger the skiffler Date: 22 Dec 99 - 04:15 AM While I was climbing over the taffrail I noticed the outboard on the tender was Greek. How did I know? It goes Popodopodopdopodopodopodoulos.... NO! Not the plank again... SPLASH RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: DonMeixner Date: 22 Dec 99 - 07:51 AM Bob, Gordon Bok's song about his Ketch. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 22 Dec 99 - 08:48 AM Hi Guys: The song I have in mind might be a Gordon Bok song, let me dust off the cobbwebs... something like I ll ground her if I want to and go dancing in the town for a man whoes fit for hanging never will be drowned. This thread has brought me back to remember the many Zeb Tilton storries I used to hear from fellows who I sailed with decades ago, one of my favorite being about his nephew, who he used to bring aboard to accomodate Zebs baddly crossed eyes. He told him the first day to go up forward and tell him every thing he sees. A little bit latter the boy yells... Uncle Zeb! I see DUCKS! Zeb yells, Be those ducks walkin or swimin? The youngster yells back, They be walkin, Uncle Zeb!, Zeb calls back, Ready About! The other, was about the Alice knowing her way home. They were sailing into Marthas Vinyard and Zeb and his mate, for years, whos name I dont recall, were below, yarning, with a belaying pin stuck in the spokes of the wheel. As they come up under the lea of the clifts, a ventura effect off the cliff knocks her off onto another tack, and the jib sheets catch onto the anchor stock and flip it overside. So by the time Zeb and the other fellow ran up on deck, the Alice had anchord herself, just where Zeb had intended her to be.
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 22 Dec 99 - 11:51 AM that song is titled..OLD FAT BOAT, and it was recorded on Folk Legacy FSI 94 (A ROGUES GALLERY OF SONGS FOR 12 String guitar. She was fat all right, obese is more like it! She sailed like a log cabin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: dick greenhaus Date: 22 Dec 99 - 04:09 PM Kendall- According to Chapman, there are nine ropes on shipboard. bell ropes, man ropes, top ropes, foot ropes, bolt ropes, back ropes, yard ropes, bucket ropes and and tiller ropes. Chapman continues..." There may be one or two more, of less importance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Dec 99 - 07:11 PM Arrr, this be a fine ship, I thinks to meself as I rambles up the poop deck. The timbers is a-shiverin under me whale-bone pegleg as the rollin sea sings her song. The parrot on me shoulder tightens her grip to keep from gettin knocked off by the flyin spindrift. Aye Polly,I muses, yer a good bird but not worth the gunpowder to blow yer worthless arse to Davy Jones. I pulls me tarry greatcoat a bit tighter around me, takin care to protect the cluster of flintlock pistols in me belt. Me great razor-sharp cutlass pokes out behind me, endangering the shins of every manjack of this motley, besotted crew. I reaches up into me tri-cornered hat and finds the stump of a cigar, which I light with a match that I've been keepin stowed away beneath me eye-patch. Above me the Jolly Roger snaps in the wind like a volley of pistol shots. Arrrr... it's a pirates life fer me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Mbo Date: 22 Dec 99 - 07:19 PM Pour, O pour the pirate sherry Fill, O fill the pirate glass And to make us more the merry Let the pirate bumper pass! There are some Pirates somewhere tonight ready to do battle with some motley besotted horned toads... --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 22 Dec 99 - 07:54 PM Capn Greenhaus, ye forgot the "ropes end" or "Starter" the only way ye can get these lazy landlubbers out their hammocks and turn to on deck is to wack em hard. just for fun I put a figure of eight knot in it. Take up the "Makings" and give yourself twelve laid on hard for forgetting an important "Rope" ( use soft noodles but just to show I aint softened up on ye put some knots in em) Aye, Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Dec 99 - 09:41 PM Aye,Dave,it'd be better by far to line up them Lubbers Indian-file, and make 'em walk the plank. I'll dance me a jig by the rhythm o' their splashin! What? Ye say I'm a hard fellow? Well, right ye are, shipmate! They calls me Steel Ass the Pirate, for my hull's been in many a scrape. And I can run faster,jump higher,dive deeper, and come up drier than any two-legged man ye can name.I'm a black-hearted son of the Trade Winds and the scourge o' the Spanish Main. I'm known throughout the Dry Tortugas fer the quality o' my Rapin and Pillagin. I floss my teeth with a cat-o-ninetails and breakfast on Hammerhead sharks. When I fart, the finest French 12-pound Cannon hide their heads in shame.I chew charcoal briquettes to pass the time,and spit diamonds o'er the larboard rail. My Father was a clamdigger,my Mother was a Mermaid, and I am a true Son of the Beach. If ye are choosin up sides for an ass-whoopin,pick me first. Arrrrrr.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: DonMeixner Date: 22 Dec 99 - 11:01 PM I'll be happy to supply the pirate earrings at cost. If I build them in simple hoops and use german silver. I can keep the cost down to $2.00 a pair. But since the pirates would only wear one they'd be a buck and ear. MWHAAAAAAAAAAAA! ( Old but still cute.) (The joke, not me.) Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Barry Finn Date: 22 Dec 99 - 11:18 PM Halloween time a kid goes up to the front door & says "Twic or Tweet" the one at the door says "oh, you're such a cute pirate" no says the kid "I'm a rabbit". "Well if you're a rabbit where are your bucking ears". So shoot me, I've toed the line for so long, in weather so cold you'd freeze the brass balls off a monkey. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 22 Dec 99 - 11:23 PM looks like there will be no shortage of wind on this trip |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Cap't Bob Date: 23 Dec 99 - 12:06 AM kendall ~ thanks for the info on THE OLD FAT BOAT (sounds a lot like my boat). I have been looking for the recording FSI 94 on the web and so far no luck. Perhaps I'll stumble upon it one of these days. Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Big Mick Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:17 AM Cap'n Bob, email Sandy Paton about that recording. I will bet he will have it. His address is folklegacy@snet.net. And I would love to cruise those islands sometime, skipper. I am a fair deckhand. I really hope this cruise comes off. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:03 AM John Paul Jones the famous (Welsh) American pirate came ashore in England; finding himself alone ( his crew stopped in a pub for overdue refreshments) he ran up to the nearest local, sword in hand, and said: Where be my Buccaneers; to which the local (slowly removing her pipe from her mouth) replied "Under yer Buckin hat Capn" Cordially,Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: harpgirl Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:09 AM ...Cap't Bob...I lived three slips down from the Malabar as a kid at the DYC. The Mistelee family owned it then. A capital ship!...We sailed the north channel every year after the Mackinaw race when I was a kid...the snow's... south benjamin...Killarney...Covered Portage Cove, with a stop at Okeechobee Lodge to fish before heading up to MaryAnn Bay. What wonderful memories! Even been holed up in Put-In-Bay for the storms on Erie but the scariest was crossing Lake Huron from Port Elgin to Harrison....oooooeeeee! count me in on the cruise, Dick. There are lots of good charters down here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 23 Dec 99 - 05:50 PM Hey Dave: J P Jones, was actually a Scottish gardiners son. He took the name Jones after killing a crew man under cercumstances that he chose not to defend himself for... This correction coming from the dim brain which refered to our old departed hero Zeb as Zek! so no points off on your blue book exam! Then again, I am not sure he was actually born in Scotland, are you sure Wales? Good story though! Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Bill D Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:36 PM all you sailors and would-be sailors....here is a page devoted to knots of various sorts If you don't have access to "The Ashley Book of Knots", this page will have you doing bends and hitches in no time....(and also fascinating to just LOOK at some of the fancy ones!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:27 PM Larry, you are probably right about him (good seaman and fighter though) I was wrong to call him a pirate too, he should have been dubbed privateer. Course, if I wasn't a loyalist Englishman, he would be hailed as a great naval officer and hero; but I aint so forgiving of Yankee's. The only way I will forgive em for leaving the family, is if they join the commonwealth and swear allegiance to H.M. the Queen ARRRR! Clearly not likely.......Anyway, anyone one called Jones is a "Taffy" to me. Seeing I call my daughters Godfather a "Great Big Green Papish Irish Rebel" if he was a Jock should have called himself Mac Jones...Yours Aye,Dave Oooh was you ever on the Congo river,blow boys blow, where fever makes the white man shiver, blow me bully boys blow, A Yankee ship come down the river her masts and yards they shone like silver, blow me bully boys blow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:50 PM It always tickles me to hear Gepoge Washington called a "terrorist" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:02 PM Well Dave: Though Anglo Irish, and first generation American, (though I lived in Ireland)I am quiet proud of my colateral relitive, be he a pirate or a privateer ( I prefer to call him the latter ) Capt. Otway Burns, who gave the crown a bloody good pasting during the little tiff between the US and England in 1812. His mother was an Otway. Somehow, I always am a bit more proud of him than Admiral Otway, of that other navy. Small funny point of history, we are related to Sir Roger Casement by marrage, and the Aud, on which he was bringing 10,000 russian rifles from Germany for the Eastern Rebellion, was first sighted by the HMS Otway, so we were well represented on both sides of that event, though as a republican my self, I identify with cousin Sir Roger. Well Dave, we will have to trade yarns and songs of both sides of the conflict over mugs of tea in the focsle on the old schooner Mudcat. I used to have very intense political debates with a shipmate aloft on a brig, back in the seventies, he was from the Ilse of Wright, Cowes, well, we decided, even tough we remained great freinds in spite of differences, it was best to wait until we were seated below to debate the occupation of Ireland... All the best shipmate Larry Otway |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:17 PM Tickles me when I hear Americans say they "beat" the British. Most of the fighters were of British Stock. Aye and a few Europeans/Irish thrown in for good measure. But a German King and German mercenaries were their mark too! Funny old world ain't it shipmates?? As I walked down the Broadway--one evening in July I met a maid---who asked my trade---and a sailor John says I. Chorus And away you Santy---my dear annie, Oh you New York girls-- can't you dance the Polka To Tiffany's I took her---I did not mind expense, I bought her two gold ear-ings-- and they cost me fifty cents. Chorus Says she "You lime-juice-- now see me home you may" But when we reached her cottage door---she unto me say Chorus My flash-man he's a Yankee---with his hair cut short behind, And he wears a tarry jumper---and he sails in the Blackball Line, Chorus So I kissed her as she told me---before her flashman came, And says, "Goodbye you naughty girl--I know your little game" Chorus The worst old brig that ever did weigh Sailed out of Harwich on a windy day. Chorus And we're waiting for the day waiting for the day, waiting for the day that we get our pay. She was built in Roman time, held together with bits of twine Chorus The Skippers half Dutch and the Mates a Jew, The crew are fourteen men too few Chorus...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:22 PM Larry, Just read your post, I'd hoist a "Black Bush" and pint of Smithwicks in Dublin or Belfast and drink to Ireland with you anyday mate. Cheers! Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Cap't Bob Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:29 PM harpgirl ~ glad you can confirm my opinion of the North Channel. I've been going up there since the very early 70's. Some of my favorite spots are: Long Point Cove, Bassett and Turnbull islands, Clarie Cove, Beardrop, Taschereau Bay, The Benjamin's, Fox, etc., etc.,. I suppose that when you were in Killarney you stopped for a fish dinner at Mr. Perch's school bus on the warf. My most hair raising moment/s were also crossing Lake Huron. One warm night in July we left Rickett's harbor in the Mississagi Strait at around midnight in order to beat a front that was supposed to pass through the area in about eight hours (according to MAFOR). They missed it by about five hours and we were half way across the lake when we were hit by 80+ mile per hour winds. When we arrived at Presque Isle Harbor the next morning the boats at the marina looked like they were in a spider web with each boat tied in with around a half dozen lines running in every direction. The only time that I ever got off the boat and actually kissed the ground. Mick, I will check with Sandy on that L.P. as soon as things settle down around here. Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Lonesome EJ Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:57 PM "There's some is bound for New York Town There's others is bound for France Heave away, me Johnnies,he-eave away There's some that's bound for Bangor Maine To teach the whales a dance And away me Johnnie boys we're all bound to go!
The pilot he is a-waiting for
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 24 Dec 99 - 08:30 AM Actually, it was more of a family feud than a war. Paul Revere did not yell "The British are coming." they were all British at the time. He actually said "The REDCOATS are coming." Who said "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?" we prove that in Viet Nam by making the same mistakes England made in our revolution. Impossibly long supply lines, lack of local support etc. But, the biggy there was the fact that England was spread way too thin. Too many enemies. We never would have won without the French, and, the only reason they were with us was their hatred of England. They helped to lick a king, then lived to regret it when their own king was overthrown. Precedents are dangerous. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 24 Dec 99 - 11:56 AM Good historical point, Kendal, one I often make, also, the regionalisation fo the Viet Nam War was very similar to the Revolution - And as to Black Bush! Ah my, I left my liver in West Kerry Dave, But I will join you with a Brendan Behan special, lime and soda water (old age sucks, but beats the alternative - well middle age, so I hope!) There is a wee pub in Belfast, the Hunting Lodge, we can meet there when the Schooner Mudcat anchors in Belfast loch, under the crains of Harland and Wolff, and raise a glass to the memory of the Salvation Army Seamans Misson in Belfast, built by my Grand da, and now gone. Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 24 Dec 99 - 11:59 AM Join me in the chorus boys and girls. Come cheer up me lads, tis to glory we steer, to add something more to this wonderfull year; To honour we call you, not press you as slaves, for who are so free as the sons of the waves. Hearts of oak are our ships, Jolly tars are our men We always are ready Steady boys Steady, we'll fight and we'll conquer again and again. As we enter a new millennium, may we "progress in wisdom as well as time and technology" God Bless All Hands Cordially, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: InOBU Date: 24 Dec 99 - 12:01 PM PS a note on Black Bush: My currach crew once won a case of BB in a race. We also won a case of Jamisons at one time. Bushmills once sponsored the racing, so we had occation to raise a few, and then some. I was never prone to hang overs, but, unlike Jamisons, with Bushmills - Black Bush to be precise, I would feel like I was poisoned the next day! If they ever come up with a cure for the old liver, I think I will stick to the occational Jamisons and leave the BB to those who dont mind paying the price the next day! Slante Larry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 24 Dec 99 - 01:59 PM The first ship I sailed on was built in Harland and Wolff we went there for refit and got my first taste of Black Bushmills; 16 Years Old (1969)it's been the only whiskey I can drink and really enjoy ever since. (sorry Scotland) My liver is pickled so it's beautifully preserved, fortunately. Anyway in those days I didn't know much about Irish history and I found myself having a pint in a pub somewhere downtown. The landlord seemed suprised to see me and asked me (after pouring the pint) "are ye going to drink here then?" as I raised my glass (observing strange looks from "all hands present")I said "well I'm not going to throw it at you mate" Just about then I saw crossed (wooden) thompson guns and a small tricolour flag in the corner. After attempting to escape without injury; I spent most of the evening singing rebel songs and getting a verbal lesson in Irish history. (lots of fun, but I never went back there) Unfortunately, I've ducked bullets and bombs visiting friends on both sides but never hated either. My daughters Godfather hails from Ballymena Co Antrim and was my Captain in Canada. (my wife sailed with me for two years) Funny old world ain't it mates??? Cordially, Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: Mbo Date: 24 Dec 99 - 03:49 PM ACTUALLY, Paul Revere said "The Regulars are out! The Regulars are out!" Quare Bungle Rye, anyone? --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Aboard the Schooner Mudcat From: kendall Date: 24 Dec 99 - 04:35 PM the regulars were the redcoats |