BS: Get Your Own FBI File

Subject: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 04:06 AM

Ziff Davis Publishing has a section in their Extreme Tech magazine that looks for websites that might be of interest, or that are weird, bizarre, strange, curious, unintelligible, or otherwise worthy of note.

The November ExtremeTech ApScout column identifies the website at http://www.getmyfbifile.com/

At this site, they will show you how to request (under Freedom of Information Act, etc) your own personal copy of any files that the FBI has on you. The site DOES NOT submit a request for you, and (presumedly?) does not communicate with the FBI or any other government agency(?). It merely shows you how to include the proper information, and formats a letter that you can print and mail, and gives you the proper addresses to which you have to send it.

An added feature, should you wish, provides similar separate request forms that you can submit:

Special bonus agency request!
While we're at it, we can generate request letters to some other agencies (who might be interested in you!)
National Security Agency (NSA)
Defense Security Service (DSS)
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
US Marshals Service (USMS)
Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
Secret Service (USSS)
Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID)

A comment: If you don't have a record, requesting one will require that they create one for you since they'll have to have a place to file your request.

Anybody feeling particularly paranoid?

John

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:22 AM

I got my Dad's file - it's huge, and I haven't read it yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 12:22 PM

Between the man hours and infrastructure of our "secret police" I believe that the money spent investigating me has exceeded the money that I have generated over my entire life's income.

How fucked up is that?

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 12:45 PM

If I don't have a fairly extensive file, it would surprise the hell out of me. Not that I am or was a particular danger to the country. I do favor overthrowing the government (such as the current one), but by elections; violence reserved for really extreme situations, and although some might disagree, I really don't think we're there yet.

But during the paranoid (a Red under every bed) 1950s, I'm pretty sure I got onto the books, not because of anything I did, but because of people I happened to knew and places I happened to be. And because I was a "folk singer."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: saulgoldie
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 01:32 PM

If you ask for your file, that might suggest to them that they should HAVE a file on you, if they don't already. You gotta think like them.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:24 PM

Perhaps I could elaborate with a somewhat more sophisticated manner of expressing myself...than F U

I have had property seized by the Secret Service and when they were returned they had an FBI file number on the box.

I had many clients that did classified defense jobs regarding X ray lasers, acoustic weapons etc.
Some of them could easily have been plants for all I know.

The weirdest investigation I was subject to was in connection with the uni bomber. They sent 3 agents, who paid the session fees, and were very jovial in their interrogation regarding any knowledge I had of explosives. My love of wood and a business named Hypnosis Technology along with my general anti establishment politics must have rung a bell with someone who was going through the usual list of idiots they had on file.

The solo secret service agent that investigated an alleged plot to pay for the assasination of Reagan was a piece of work. Danny Spillane, a schizophrenic artist nephew of Mickey Spillane who wrote Mike Hammer novels, made some wild accusations that spilled over to all his acquaintences. This agent went immediately to extortion by threatening the job and even health of my girl friend. I told him go ahead do your worst since as a human being you seem to be one of the worst. They left her alone but they did get my office landlord to start eviction preceedings. The day they came with a truck and eviction movers there ws some sort of paper work they could not find so they called it off leaving me to move at my leisure.

The county police sent their most attractive officer who was up front regarding her interest in my sex life. While she was not a paying client I granted her time to ask and prod about every detail she wanted to know. I even granted hand writing analysis samples... But then I drew the line at taking a battery of tests la brain scan.

All in all my experiences at being investigated in a nefarious manner might be unusual for your typical hypnotherapist. The interviews by Naval Intelligence and the CIA however were loads of fun until I said no to the CIA. They got nasty and assaulted me into unconsciousness, commited burlary twice and alas my landlord soon after canceled my lease of a very nice office on 23 Strathallan Park which is the former mansion of the owner of Evening in Paris perfume.
The tales I could tell you of that place are wonderous.

So all in all the experience with the "secret police" of this fair land may be different than yours but it is mine and completely true with only a plethora of details ommited including the Jesuit order who were also very curious as to what I was up to. I have to say the many investigations have made life more interesting including the dryest of them all, the IRS.

If you really do follow the beat of a different drummer or take the path less traveled there are people who make their living by finding out what where and why you might do such a thing.

Over all I suppose you could say that they won yet they continue to defeat the US with blowback from the pursuit of winning with a policy of perception becomes reality even if perception is a lie. They are still living the lie and look where WE are now; Torture, invasions, broken treasuries, no respect and a dollar less valuable than toilet paper. THEY however have more money than Kings in the 17th century. So I have to admit that they/American ruling class won.

So when I say that these numerous ivestigations could run into some real money I would not be surprised if it went well past 5 figures into 6.

I haven't filed for my file yet but I plan to since my experiences could possibly make an interesting biographical novel.

btw, I was never charged with anything and have only been arrested for demonstrating in wASHINGTON DC WHERE i NOW OWN A HOME IN THE BURBS outside the beltway.



now what is he up to now?

I wonder what he's building in there?;^)


But seriously, there are people here who have truely suffered for their beliefs. Some like Quaker volunteers have even given their lives for an anti war belief. I have merely been inconveinienced in comparison.

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Deckman
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:26 PM

I saw my file when I was 18. Or at least an FBI agent held up a file that was a half inch thick and told that it was "my file." He suggested that I go to "work" for them, by reporting who came to our monthly folksinging sessions,and who sang what songs. I thought his offer over for several seconds and declined. Instead, I went into the Army. This was in Seattle in the mid fifties ... what red scare? Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:48 PM

I know I have a file, but I can't imagine anything of much interest in it. I do wonder who they interviewed about me though.

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 10:01 PM

I expect I have a file, since I had a top secret security clearance for many years. I doubt that it is very interesting, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 10:55 PM

The recently resurrected Pacific Northwest Folklore Society was initially organized in 1953. For a fledgling organization, it was quite ambitious. It co-sponsored, with the East 42nd Street Arts Association, an arts fair in 1953, which included a concert by Walt Robertson, dance exhibitions by a couple different folk dance groups (The Scandia Folk Dancers, and Dance Circle, which was into Balkan dancing), and an exhibit of Northwest Indian dancing and mask carving. The following year there was another festival, and in October, we sponsored a concert by Pete Seeger.

The PNWFS was strictly a-political. But that didn't save it from panic at the sponsorship of the Seeger concert because he had been butting heads with the House Un-American Activities Committee. People withdrew from the organization in droves, fearful for things like security clearances. Strangely enough, the Seeger concert had no effect on the East 42nd Street Arts Association, despite the fact that both the E42StAA and the PNWFS were organized and headed by the very same people—us.

I spent a couple of years in Denver, and I was dead-set on reorganizing the PNWFS, possibly under a different name, when I returned to Seattle. I corresponded with a couple of people in Seattle about it. When I returned, the word was spread far and wide (farther and wider than I would have preferred) and a meeting was called. Some former members of the PNWFS were there, but there was also a group of people who were hell-bent on turning it into a politically oriented organization rather than an academically oriented one. No interest in collecting Northwest folklore, only in having singers like Walt and me do fund-raising concerts for their pet politcal causes. Not what I had in mind!

These new acquaintances treated me as if I were The Messiah Returned. But since they had given me all this power, I quietly chose to table the project until further notice (until these people got bored waiting for me to do something and simply went away!).

Shortly after this meeting, I was visited by a dignified, grey-suited gentleman from an office downtown. His card identified him as a Special Agent from the F. B. I. He wanted to know who all was at the meeting. I wasn't able to help him much, because, other than the usual suspects whom he already knew about, I had met so many new people all in one whack that I really couldn't remember most of their names.

I told him that I wanted the organization to be academic, oriented toward the collection and preservation of Northwest folklore—not political action. He urged me to go ahead with the organization and include these folks. And he wanted me to report back to him on who all attended meetings and keep my eyes and ears open for anything that seemed significantly political. A fishbowl!

I told him I'd have to think about it. He agreed. He contacted me again in a couple of weeks. I told him (the truth) that I was going back to school—to study music seriously, and to resume voice and guitar lessons—and that I simply wouldn't have time to get involved in what I had originally planned regarding the folklore society. He allowed as how he understood, and that was the last I saw of him.

From then on, if anyone new showed up in the Seattle folk group, I tended to watch them pretty closely, wondering. . . .

In the interim, a number of folk song and folklore societies have come into existence in this area, and subsequently folded their tents. One organiztion started solidly and is still going strong, but their orientation seems to have veered from its original focus on traditional folk song and folklore.

But after a long haitus, the Pacific Northwest Folkore Society is back. [And unless we suddenly attract a large number of "enemy combatants," we should be in healthy shape from here on!]

Yeah, I think they probably have a file on me. . . .

Besides, I know Bob Nelson!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Get Your Own FBI File
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 12:59 PM

If it's free, I'll have a dozen!
















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