Source singers and their songs

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 05:23 AM

"from Jim Carroll is that she was lonely and depressed, "
Again, undigested
Mary was generally and extremely gregarious throughout her time on the road
Not long after she got her younger children back she decided to try and have them educated - the only way she could possibly do this is to move into a flat, which the then sympathetic Hackney Labour Council (on the advice of Ken Livingstone) helped her to do
For the period she was in her depressingly empty flat, she became equally depressed - alone all day and unable even to watch television
During that perion we continued to visit and record her - it was during that time we made some of the best recordings of her
When she returned back on the road she became her old self
Please learn to read everything that is put up - not just what suits you to believe


I have no idea what you are talking about (other unnamed guest) - feel free to elucidate
No-one here has descrived what Travelers do - there's isn't space on Mudcat to list the various ways they earn their living
We have a ten minute long recording of Mikeen McCarthy listing the various jobs he has done during his then comparatively short life - the last photograph we took of him is him standing next to a beatifully restored bier he had just completed

A number of people have described them as idle, thieving refuse-leaving scavengers - they are the descriptions that stick ouut in my mind
I may be ultra-sensitive - but given how Travellers are treated by society, I THINK I MIGHT BE FORGIVEN THE OCCASIONAL LAPSE
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 06:56 AM

"Mary was generally "
Should read Mary was extremely friendly
"descrived " - Described

Jim

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: Brian Peters
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 07:05 AM

Good grief, Nick, that's a horrendous account. A timely post, though.

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 08:46 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Utlar1vDI jeannie robertson, take that pseud

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 09:00 AM

My wife was taken into a nunnery when she was a child for the crime of being a Gypsy. No Christmas, no Birthdays, no children to play with, desperate fear of the mother superior behind her red curtain.

In Scotland at least, the NSPCC carried a lot of the responsibility for that. As far as they were concerned, no Gypsy could ever be a responsible parent, and they instigated kidnappings by the social services for decades.

They are now on a campaign to ban encryption on Facebook. Mainly they are being stooges for the security services, but I'm sure any thug with a bent copper friend would be delighted to have their victims' personal details accessible in return for a small favour.

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 12:15 PM

The Republic of Ireland has come through great social changes. In progressive legislation, it could now be regarded as a model for its neighbour.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio: Folk Map of the British Isles From: GUEST,henryp Date: 11 Feb 20 - 03:39 AM

I wonder if Seth Lakeman will find any musical record of the enormous social changes that have taken place in the Republic of Ireland. Look at the lifetime of Edna O'Brien.

She said, "I rebelled against the coercive and stifling religion into which I was born and bred." Her first book, The Country Girls, published in 1960, was added to the long list of books banned in Ireland under the Censorship of Publications Act, 1929. By 2012, Mary Robinson, the President of Ireland, recognised her as "one of the great creative writers of her generation".

Although she married and moved to London in 1954, her main subject remains Ireland. Meanwhile, the Republic of Ireland has grown into a modern, liberal state.

P.S. There are still countries where girls desperately need protection. Now in her eighties, Edna O'Brien wrote her most recent book, Girl, after she travelled to Nigeria to speak to girls who had been kidnapped by jihadist group Boko Haram.

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 12:42 PM

I've calmed down a bit now. I don't usually go off the deep end, however thank you for the kind posts. On a positive note, I've spent the afternoon coach lining a dray at the Blackpool Gypsy camp, laughing and cracking jokes and discussing Tyson Fury in glowing terms. (The family are related to him) and I've come home to a warm cottage with my lady wife happily within looking forward to the festival season.
It's not all bad!
Bob Lewis is wonderful by the way Dick.

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 02:51 PM

Jeannie used to Joke that it was strange to thing she was awarded an MBE and still be refused service in the local shops

Ireland has taken a massive leap forward - it's a shame that it has taken the disclosure of centuries of child-rape and the enslavery of 'fallen' women to get there
Meanwhile, the Republic of Ireland has grown into a modern, liberal state.
Not sure of that, and I'm not sure I'm sorry
Sinn Feinn walked away with the recent election and the shenanigans of the 'liberal party' in trying to keep them out is only going to strengthen that victory
Interesting days
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: GUEST,Pseudonymous
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 09:06 AM

"Because she was here before posting with a name and telling us that Clare farmers learned their songs from blues records
She had he membership withdrawn eventually"

More nonsense and smears from Jim Carroll. But what else do we expect?

Subject: RE: Source singers and their songs
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 27 Feb 20 - 12:21 PM

I'll tell you what else we might expect, and that is your good self Pseudo to take heed of Joe Offers' comment on February 25th.

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I'm closing this for now. One troll posted, and everybody took the bait, plus it seems the subject of music doesn't matter if you have an opportunity to fight with one another. I expect Joe Offer will re-open it at some point.

For those of you who resisted the urge, thank you. -Mod