BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 07:59 PM

There are some bars in downtown Barry that aren't cruddy, Clinton. Several, in fact. The thing about most of those is...they are also fine dining establishments, and that tends to draw a very different crowd.

If you mean just your basic lowlife bar...watering hole...yeah, they're all cruddy. But the worst one is at the foot of Bayfield Street. It's a f*ckn hole. That is the bar at or outside of which I propose to give Shambles a chance to die defending my right to freedom of speech.

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 10:26 PM

I'm a little sorry about bringing Rick's post into this, frankly. My point was and is that Rick, whether you agreed with him or not, was a reasonable and funny guy. He didn't take cheap shots, call people names, and even when he was very sick he kept his good attitude. That's all. I enjoyed and still enjoy his posts. He was no angel, because angels don't put superglue-coated quarters in juke box slots or get touchy about people criticizing their music like Mr Fielding did a rare time or two. He created enjoyable threads about how to play your guitar better. I miss him in a way I would not miss a certain few nasty-attitude people who feel it necessary to insult someone they disagree with if they were to go away. PERIOD.

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: Amos
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 11:34 PM

Wal, Lonesome, I guess yer tuned to the same AM station I am, too. Rolling over a back country road at midnight with the Coffee-Drinkin' Nightowl drinking instant over the radio playing "Winder SHoppin'" or maybe Elvis coming out with "All SHook Up". But I like the way you drive, man.

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: *daylia*
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:28 AM

I'm a little sorry about bringing Rick's post into this, frankly. My point was and is that Rick, whether you agreed with him or not, was a reasonable and funny guy. He didn't take cheap shots, call people names, and even when he was very sick he kept his good attitude.

I miss him in a way I would not miss a certain few nasty-attitude people who feel it necessary to insult someone they disagree with if they were to go away. PERIOD.

Thank you for posting this, LEJ. It hurt to see Rick dragged into the "all hail to MY alMighty essential freedoms" stuff too, but no ... there will always be those who will manipulate how people feel about him here, using his treasured memory as ammunition, I suppose. Regrettable, but it does take all kinds to make a world...

There's at least one other current member here who's earned my respect and taught me a lot about the art of productive public discussion. That's you, Kevin (McGrath of Harlow). Like Rick, you enjoy debate, even heated debate. And certainly you hold your own, but I've never seen you insult anyone yet!

You helped me out here once, out of the goodness of your heart, when I was an absolute newbie buried in @@!!!%%&&& over a battle of a thread I started called "Violence is the American Way?" I learned much from that, and from you Kevin. And from Rick, who finally posted on that monster of a thread as The Voice of Reason and Understanding. Speaking simply, NOT about politics or history or far-reaching sociological theory but about his own personal experience -- about the kindness and friendliness of the Americans he always encountered on his many visits to the US -- well, his words went a long LONG way toward defusing the argument and angst. ANd I won't be forgetting it anytime soon!

So thank you again for that Rick, and Kevin, and to the Mudcat for continuing to be the wonderful, caring, fun, informative and inherently decent community that you are.

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: *daylia*
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:58 AM

PS I meant to mention that I never met Rick personally -- I "met" him through Mudcat when I joined in early 2003. Unfortunately he was not with us long after that (physically, anyway), but in that short time, through his influence and informative posts here, my guitar playing changed permanently for the better and so did a few of my own techniques as a music teacher. And I think it's wonderful that through Mudcat, Rick continues to influence my little students in positive ways!

And I also meant to say that no matter how much CH seems to enjoy bugging me and putting down my efforts here, I forgive and forget (when my efforts to ignore fail!) and will always be grateful to him for helping me pick out my wonderful Seagull guitar. As well as for the many, many opportunities to practice tolerance, patience, good humour and peaceful online skills. So thank you again Clinton -- you're wonderful too!

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 03:40 AM

The acceptance speech was as good as at any Oscars.

Not too sure what award you were accepting though?

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 06:03 AM

You communicate like a Neanderthal, throw stones, carry on like the crudest sort of bestial barbarian, step on feelings, denigrate personalities over and over

I really think Amos went way over the top there. There's no reason to think that Neanderthals weren't as well mannered as you could wish. The rest of the sentence sounds like it's referring to typical Cro-Magnon behaviour, assuming they behaved then the same way some of us do now. But I still maintain that, fortunately, it's the exception in this corner of cyberspace.
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I've just had a glance back at the thread daylia mentioned - Violence is the American Way? The interesting thing is a rapid skim through it seems to indicate that, though heated at times, it managed to keep on a relatively level keel. I have a nasty feeling this might not be the case today - and I think that would be down to a very few current regulars who weren't around then.

And I think that one of the things that kept that particular thread civilised was the way spaw set the tone in the third post in: "We are NOT a violent country! You oughta' be shot for posting something like that!!!!"

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: Wolfgang
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 09:20 AM

Nice picture, but a bit off topic.

Wolfgang (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: *daylia*
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 10:56 AM

LOL    hey    maybe it's not as far off as all that, Wolfgang. It did set off a few fireworks!

Subject: RE: BS: The Decency of the 'Cat (Part II)
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 11:30 AM

Proposal for members only posting of BS