BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?

Subject: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 May 10 - 07:04 AM

Analytical article on the UK US relationship with our new government.





(Sorry about the title, but if you can call us Yookers, then we can call you Yoosers:))

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 16 May 10 - 08:10 AM

well I am a YooSer living in YooK. I am as pissed off as I can be that Clegg joined the old school ties faction and I am about as anti-Israel as it gets.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 16 May 10 - 08:18 AM

Well maybe not exactly anti-Israel, but I do have issues with certain practices in Gaza, etc. I think such behaviour casts a very bad light on them as a people and that is sad.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 May 10 - 04:52 PM

Well the US will always back Israel, because it has nuclear arms, and is close to Iran

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: mousethief
Date: 16 May 10 - 05:55 PM

Not to mention the political cloud (votes) Israel pulls with sympathizers in the US.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 May 10 - 08:56 PM

I get an error trying to open the article....

however...

"...the US will always back Israel, because it has nuclear arms, and is close to Iran."

Kinda over-simplifying it, I'd think. It's a bit more complex than that.

(and I personally have never used the term "Yooker" or heard anyone use it.)

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 May 10 - 09:04 PM

I thought the people living above the Tweed were North Britons....

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 May 10 - 12:14 AM

I would think that as the article points out, President Obama's litmus test for the new UK regime will be how strongly it supports the efforts in Afghanistan.   So far, it appears he has no reason to be displeased--but of course UK budget considerations may enter the picture soon.   But that was going to happen regardless of who "won" the UK election.

As I noted earlier, it seems quite likely that this was an election it was better to lose--for any party.   The painful budget cuts coming will alienate huge numbers of voters.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 May 10 - 07:25 PM

Yoosers and Yessirs...

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: ollaimh
Date: 18 May 10 - 11:55 AM

i am reaslly tired of the resurgent racism against israel. yeah they have abuses but they also nhave rule of law. palistinians within israel and in the occupied territories can use the israeli courts to redress abuse like re routing the wall. feminists in palistine can go to israel as refugees as can gays and lesbians. they have civil and human rights there.

there are no minority rights of any kind within palistine. they have persecuted their own christian minority so that once over a third they have been driven out so that they no longer are over twenty percent in any area.

people do not apply the same standards against israel as they do against the neighbouring states where there is no kind of human or civil rights protection.

moreover remember there have always been jews in israel!!! they are there in greater numbers now in a war situation where they are required to do things on a war footing. yes they have abuses but judging israel by separate standards than you judge the neighbouring states is racism. i despair at the rise of this racism on the left--it has bankrupted the legitimacty of the left in many countries ovewr issues that are too complex and none of most of those countries business.

so pleaee virginna--go to hell

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Smedley
Date: 18 May 10 - 12:05 PM

Disapproving of Israeli government policies is not racist. Doing so because of the ethnicity of the people who form that government would be racist, but nobody has done that here.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 May 10 - 01:46 PM

Much of what ollaimh wrote there could also have been said of the old South Africa...