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Subject: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: GUEST,donuel Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:40 PM DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE. In the course of human events when hypocrisies rob the human spirit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, there comes a time to recognize the truths of our time and hold these revelations as self evident. When tyrants invoke the word freedom and institutions of wealth beyond measure insist you must support yet another war at the cost of civil liberties, rising prices and a shrinking paycheck you deserve a truthful answer to the question "Why?". The reason is our dependence on oil and the rapid depletion of this resource which has replaced slavery in the modern age. The great hypocrisy of the largest Virginia slave owner, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights". This hypocrisy is small in comparison to the cruel hypocrisies of our age. For Jefferson the cost of a slave provided a lifetime of labor. The price of a slave would only pay a white man wages for a year. Today our inanimate slave is oil. For only $2, the labor gasoline will provide could equal as much as 20 hours of labor by hand. Look at it this way…you could not reliably hire someone today to push your automobile 20 miles for only $2. Every argument and excuse for the latest hurried war in Iraq is a diversion or simply an outright lie to distract the people from the real issue that diminishing oil supplies will cause the entire global economy to collapse in twenty to fifty years. The price of a barrel of oil rose slowly from $5 to $55 dollars over several decades. The price of a barrel of oil is projected to reach $180 in a relatively short time. The hypocrisy that the United States of America is not fighting and dieing for oil but rather is fighting for democracy, for freedom, for God, or against imminent destruction by horrible weapons, is the greatest and most successful lie today. If George Bush (either of them) could tell the truth he would be fair and accurate in yelling, "The Truth? You can't handle the truth!". We the people do however deserve the truth that it is in fact too late to switch to any other alternative energy source without a total collapse of the economy and the civilization that is wholly dependent upon oil as its slave. That we have waited too long before exploiting alternatives should not surprise anyone. The most optimistic scenario is subsistence reliance upon 20% of our prior energy use. Wind, nuclear, coal and underground heat pumps are scalable but will never meet the current energy demands today. To offer a generation of children to fight and die in an oil war will never sound as noble as a fight for freedom or God's will in the holy lands or to stop an imminent nuclear retaliation by Islamic terrorists. The most imminent threat we have defended ourselves against was to halt Iraq from changing from petro-dollars to petro-euros which would have an additional devastating effect on the US economy if it spread to Saudi Arabia and other great oil producing states. Beneath speeches that democracy is on the march in Iraq is the truth that we are fighting partly for our ability to drive to work. There is an upward price for a barrel of oil that would erase the majority of all jobs in the United States. Certainly most wars have an underlying hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of the war on poverty has its privatized work fare of welfare, the war on drugs has its liberation of the Afghanistan opium trade, the war on terrorism had its helplessness in the face of two lone snipers. Only a tip by a teamster captured those killers. The war on terrorism is no different except for the amount of media generated fear associated with it. The media fairness doctrine was killed during Ronald Reagan's term so that all media outlets can now be owned by a monopolistic few and are never required to be truthful, or give an alternative viewpoint. You might recall how Clear Channel radio stations repeated that Iraq only had 3% of the world's oil. In fact they were the second highest producer of oil in the world, but the blood for oil argument was to be ridiculed and killed despite the facts. In this Declaration Dependence I believe the American people; both right and left can handle the truth. When conservatism is redefined as each person's liberty to be engaged for themselves, and that the competition with others who are in this creation solely for their own best interests, somehow benefits all, including the less fortunate who devour all that trickles down, we find that conservatism has become the slave to a handful of great corporate interests. When religious freedom is redefined with faith based incentives for the certain religions there is only less freedom. When a President claims religious grounds to pass judgment on an ethics and science that saves lives, we must ask if he is indeed an authority of religion, ethics or science. When political voices hurry a nation into a war in the holy lands and hush the mention of spoils, there is a pandering to the lowest levels of man's nature, spiritual quest and greed. When liberalism is redefined as Godless communism that oppress all who enter, the highly paid rhetoric of a corporate think tank is evident. When a single or untied voice for even the smallest limits on corporate greed are beaten down without representation in Congress, the untold fortunes of the captains of industry are all that are served in new law and policies. The voices that elevate the social Darwinism of survival of the wealthiest, of a dog eat dog reality, of a reality TV concept of voting out friends to be the sole survivor, we are hearing the voice of great wealth preaching the new gospel according to profits. We the people are not the enemy but we can be made to be our own worst enemy. We the people are the enemy to the interests of unlimited multinational corporations. We the people have been divided against our own best interests by skillful and organized efforts. They have used religious fundamentalism and patriotic pleas against our own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Corporate mergers will continue to create profits as the economy declines to an inevitable collapse. A compliant populace ignorant to the truth of the end of our oil economy will make it easier for corporations to squeeze every last drop out of them before the collapse. When cornered by our overwhelming numbers the greedy class will indeed grow most savage. Amid a predicted population loss as high as 90% the common people will also become desperate and dangerous. Any species is provided an unlimited food source and then has the food withdrawn, their numbers rise and fall sharply in what is called a J curve. It is a rapid and cruel drop that bears no resemblance to a bell shaped curve. Greed is like a promised short cut that is tempting to our nature so we must fight it both within ourselves and out in the world. Our destiny is best served by developing self sustaining food and personal energy production and is worst served by the virtual tax free corporate Kings without a country whose only goal is to gouge the masses enough to build walls high enough to keep the people out. We the People and corporate interests can both prosper together, or fight each other for the last resource of energy or the last mouthful of food. How we handle this coming emancipation should be the most sobering topic that media has a responsibility to discuss. It has not and will not so I urge you to pass this Declaration of Dependence as far and wide as you are able and then take your first responsible step toward a self sustaining life for you and your family. We the people will die in staggering numbers as the oil agro industry grinds to a halt, of that there is no doubt. Praying for a nearly free energy source to emerge is all that some will do. It is not enough. Oil was our slave but we are now its slave and must begin anew our struggle for freedom. God bless but truth is best. Don Hakman Washington DC 10 / 2004
-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: BaldEagle2 Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:47 PM No. I don't think so. Nice rhetoric, but it doesn't really hang together, does it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:07 AM It hangs together exceedingly well. Well said, Mr Hakman. You have described the problem. The solution will not be easy, and it will necessitate the dismantling of the financial powers that rule today and their replacement with a system genuinely based on the proposition that all humans are created equal and endowed with the same inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...to each other's mutual advantage, not to each other's mutual destruction. The present system is based on materialism, slavery, deliberate inequality, and upon a matrix of lies so vast and all-pervasive that they assume the dimensions of willful madness. |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: BaldEagle2 Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:36 AM Little Hawk, as brucie as already told you: "Will this thread be a prelude to the Dance of the Seven Veils? Where is Blind Drunk in Blind River when he's REALLY needed. That is no rabbit--I don't know what it IS, but it's no rabbit. It's a friggin' sofa." You seem to be getting your threads mixed up. Guest.donuel is NOT a supporter of your big bunny concept. When that is taken into account, his rhetoric is not that great at all. Dimensions of willful madness will always be found where you look for them, even if they are totally absent to everyone else. Ask Martin Gibson - he'll explain it to you far better than I ever could. Or even Shambles - he is the pastmaster of this type of cry of for freedom. |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Oct 04 - 01:55 AM Look, if you really want Shane's opinion (he's Blind DRunk in Blind River) I'll try and get him to post here. But he's not much interested in this kind of subject. In fact, not at all. As long as Shane has enough beer and TV he is happy. Shane would support Stalin or Idi Amin or Genghis Khan if he was guaranteed a steady supply of TV and beer. Does that sound familiar? :-) It is people like Shane who maintain the status quo, you know. The cleverest thing a dictatorship can do is convince its people that: 1. They are the free-est and bravest people on Earth. 2. That someone less free (and brave) is threatening their freedom. 3. That this necessitates war. An enslaved people who imagine themselves to be free are a very dangerous force on this Earth, and that is what you have in the American public. What are you enslaved to? Money, consumerism, TV, junk food, overeating and under-excercising, mindless entertainment, sex messages (subliminal and otherwise), cultural mythology of a very unrealistic sort (such as: we invented freedom and everything else worth having), religious mythology, a 2-party $y$tem that is completely phony and bought out, and a presumption of national superiority over other nations that is completely illusory. The rest of the World watches you in trepidation and horror, wondering what in God's name your insane government will do next. Meanwhile, I will ease the tension some by having fun with giant bunny stories. Feel free to drop in and participate on those any time you like. |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: dianavan Date: 26 Oct 04 - 02:36 AM Thanks Donuel - It sure beats the cut and paste most of us have to resort to. I know what you are saying is true. Wall Street knows what you say is true. Unfortunately, most people are too afraid of the truth. Most people would rather believe that the war in Iraq is based on freedom and democracy. What they cannot face is that they, in fact, contribute to the death and slavery of others so that they can enjoy an unsustainable lifestyle. Neither Bush nor Kerry will be able to save them. BaldEagle2 - What do you mean it doesn't hang together? I think you must have an awfully short attention span. I guess its just too much for you to comprehend or perhaps you are just too resistant to learning. d |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 26 Oct 04 - 03:57 AM Donuel, Right on ! People will die for an idea, providing that idea isn't quite clear to them. Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: Ellenpoly Date: 26 Oct 04 - 03:59 AM I thought this was well written, and compelling. I do believe, though, that it looks to me like no one is going to have their minds changed here at the 'Cat. This Declaration certainly states a lot of my point of view, but as it has been shown on thread after thread, there are still some who will not now, nor very likely ever, agree. But hey, if you enjoy the arguments, (which must be the case) please continue. ..xx..e |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: GUEST,donuel Date: 26 Oct 04 - 10:24 AM I bought into all the typical micro arguments about WMD's, Imperialst war mongers, the scourge of religious fundmentalism and where is bin Laden but I kept asking myself, "what is the larger issue?". The larger issue is that every system in our civilization is dependent on oil and every component in this civilization from agriculture to zoos face a decline that will be unprecedented in recorded history. Dissecting issues that seem to have the element of human control give us all a foundation of hope. Yet there is no hope of extending the current supply of cheap energy. Even with the possible advent of exotic new power sources I forsee civilization shrinking back to oasis' of modern convenience. As the four horsemen destroy life as we know it, the instituions of extreme wealth desperatly desire a police state that will "manage" the hungering hoardes. The new technologies of crowd control will amount to a modern equivilent of pouring boiling oil over the castle walls. Eventually the seige will reach deep within the castle keep and claim even the most wealthy noblmen and women. There are hopeful plans for the coming changes but as for now media has decided that our concerns are crowning the boy king again, Laci Peterson, showing democracy on the march in the middle east and the Survivor series finale. |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:29 PM "Survivor". What an appropriate form of mindless entertainment with which to distract the enslaved masses of today...who live by the new credo: "Give me convenience or give me death!" (as they click the TV remote and reach for the garlic dip) For an excellent book which will back up much of what Donuel is saying, read "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight" by Thom Hartmann (check spelling on that name...I may not have it quite right). If the controllers at the top had the will to actually do something positive about the situation, much could have been done already to reduce our dependence on oil and to find alternate sources of power, while adopting far more realistic lifestyles....but apparently they would rather just keep making a whole lot of money and arming themselves to the teeth and killing people in poor countries...and skyscrapers. This indicates to me that the value they place on the lives of ordinary people is nil. |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: dianavan Date: 27 Oct 04 - 12:31 AM Speaking of Survivor and similar t.v. shows: they are not just pablum - they have a purpose. The purpose is to teach you that it is O.K. to turn on friends and vote them out because your own survival depends on it. What a message! Pretty scary stuff... d |
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Subject: RE: BS: DECLARATION OF DEPENDENCE From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 04 - 12:38 AM I recommend you re-title the next draft Declaration of Interdependence, Don. A |
