Old Labour/PEL

Subject: Old Labour/PEL
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 May 05 - 08:13 PM

Happily, my MP is the wonderful honest Robert Marshall-Andrews QC MP - now being accepted by the media and who knows who else as the most articulate and learned face of Old Labour. He is one of the top internal Labour rebels.

He tried to help us on the PEL nonsense of the Licensing Act.

If, maybe, and perhaps, I could interest him in a fight on the Licensing Act as an act of Machiavellianism, has anyone else a constituency MP who has a place in the Labour internal politics who might join the ranks?

If this flies, credit where due, it is largely not my idea an I'll come clean maybe in due course.

I may also be trying to re-activate the Performer-Lawyer Group for the purpose.

More, maybe, in due course.

Sham, I suggest you PM or email me rather than posting just in case.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: vectis
Date: 10 May 05 - 08:52 PM

No my MP is a ruddy Lib Dem. He did sign the early day motion though so maybe he'd back it from the back benches given a nudge

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 May 05 - 01:40 AM

No - mine's loyalty to the party-line has just been rewarded with a Junior Ministership.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: pavane
Date: 11 May 05 - 03:46 AM

Mine is Peter Hain - no chance there. He just sent all of my mail on to Kim Howells, who sent back the standard letter on how good it would be for live music.

Radio 2 website of the day yesterday was something like

Ivotedforyoubecause

which was intended to provide batched feedback to your local MP. It might be a place to direct PEL protests.

Maybe there should also be a site

Ididntvoteforyoubecause ! I certainly wouldn't vote for him, for PELS, IR35 and other reasons.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: sian, west wales
Date: 11 May 05 - 04:39 AM

Mine's Lab. Nick Ainger who never votes against his bosses and who has been rewarded with a post in the Wales Office. He used to be a good guy and very pro-community arts. How the mighty have fallen. The others who I know personally are not Labour. However, if ever there was a Labour rebel, it's Paul Flynn, Newport West. He might be worth a 'go'. Our other hope, in Wales, is in getting powers devolved to the Assembly. I'd find it hard to believe that Welsh AMs would dare to have tried restricting communal music-making like that. They'd have been ridden out of town on a rail. (Actually, an old Welsh custom. Maybe that's where the cowboys got it.) I know that people in the Culture Ministry at the Assembly were mightily displeased at the lack of consultation on this one, as Culture IS a devolved issue, as are certain aspects of Local Government ...

sian

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 11 May 05 - 05:00 AM

Mine, as you know, is the ex morris man who, although he signed the EDM, proceeded to pass my complaints on to Dim Bowels and Ronnie Fudgit, resulting in the aforementioed standard crapsheet.
So not much chance there.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: Splott Man
Date: 11 May 05 - 06:09 AM

Kevin Brennan (Lab), Cardiff West I think, voted against it originally, but he's now a whip so might not be of help. He's a musician too (does a good rendition of My Old Friend The Blues!).

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 May 05 - 06:10 AM

Well, lets see what happens with Marshall-Andrews when I finalise the letter to him and send it. Maybe we can at least direct him to one friendly face!

Your morris dancer, Don, of course can dance his morris (or similar) and even have music so long as the music stops when he does. As you know. So he does not really have a cause that needs supporting. He got what he wanted.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 11 May 05 - 06:51 AM

The only MPs I know are all tories, so no help. They were fighting it, and ignored.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 11 May 05 - 07:34 AM

I wrote to my MP (Clive "Effing" Efford - Labour - Eltham - returned on reduced maj) on several occasions and he never bothered to send me a reply - he voted for the bill. Strangely enough, he (personally) phoned me before the election asking me if he could rely on my vote . . . . !

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 11 May 05 - 07:49 AM

I'd love to have listened to your reply to that Dave. I'll bet it raised blisters.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Old Labour/PEL
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 May 05 - 07:52 AM

I beilieve that Michael Ancrum is a keen folk singer as is John Reid and I think Ming Campbell