Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man

Subject: Lyr Add: 'I Want To Be A College Man' Trad. Song
From: John M.
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 05:28 PM

Hello everyone,

Below is a traditional song titled:  'I Want to a College Man'  (recording)

              1.  Do you sing this song? 
              2.  If yes, when and where did you learn it?
              3.  Would you be willing to sing it for folklore purposes over the phone?

Any help is appreciated.

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
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I WANT TO BE A COLLEGE MAN  (recording)

I want be a college man
Mmmmm and a little bit more
I want to be a fraternity man
Mmmmm and a little bit more
I want to be a Sig Ep man
Who could ask for more
Then I'll have whats coming to me and
Mmmmm and a little bit
Mmmmm and a little bit
Mmmmm and a little bit more

I want to date a college girl
Mmmmm and a little bit more
I want to date a sorority girl
Mmmmm and a little bit more
I want to date a (DG, THETA, DZ, KAPPA, AZD, PHI MU) GIRL
Who could ask for more
Then I'll have what's coming to me and
Mmmmm and a little bit
Mmmmm and a little bit
Mmmmm and a Whole lot more

Notes:  According to this google search, this song is not common.   Although this song seems to be primarily a fraternity song, it was also sung by Chi Alpha Nu sorority members in 1945 (see here) and there is a Navy WAVE version (see here).

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'I Want To Be A College Man' Trad. Song
From: John M.
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:40 PM

Here is a 1927 text of this song.
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I'D LIKE TO BE A FRIEND OF YOURS

I'd like to be a friend of yours,
Um-m and a little bit more;
I'd like to be a pal of yours,
Um-m and a little bit more.
I'd like to be a little flower,
A-bloomin' round your door;
Then I'd have all that's comin' to me,
Um-m and a little bit,
Um-m and a little bit,
Um-m and a little bit more.

Note: This text is from pg 53 of Parodology (song #202) by E.O. Harbin (Cokesbury Press: Nashville, Tenn. 1927)

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'I Want To Be A Friend of Yours" Song
From: John M.
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 03:18 PM

Here is a WASP version of the this song from ~1943

                                 recording 

Same tune. This recording and the text below are from the www.wasp-wwii.org website.
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I WANNA BE A MISS H. P.

I wanna be a Miss H. P.
H"mmmmmmmm and a little bit more

I wanna be a WASP trainee,
H"mmmmmmmm and a little bit more

I wanna be a graduate, and then I'll ask no more
For I'll have all that's coming to me,
H'mmmmmmm and a little bit,
H'mmmmmmm and a little bit,

H'mmmmmmm and a little bit more!

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: and e
Date: 15 Jun 20 - 04:27 PM

MMM AND A LITTLE BIT MORE

I want a red canoe,
M-m-m and a little bit more,
I want a big full moon,
M-m-m and little bit more,
I want my very own girl,
And I'll not ask for more,
I'll have all that's comin' to me,
M-m-m and a little bit
M-m-m and a little bit
M-m-m and a little bit more.

I got a red canoe,
M-m-m and little bit more,
I got my big full moon,
M-m-m and little bit more,
I got my very own girl,
And I'll not ask for more,
I have all that's comin' to me,
M-m-m and little bit
M-m-m and little bit
M-m-m and little bit more.

Underneath the bamboo,
Underneath the bamboo tree,
Room enough for you, my darling
Room emough for one, two, three, four,
And when we marry, happy we'll be,
Underneath the bamboo, bamboo,
Underneath the bamboo tree.

From pg 4 of The Unofficial College Songbook. This book is not dated [1950s], no location [internal references to the University of Wisconsin], no publisher.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 30 Nov 24 - 05:39 PM

Red Canoe Song

I wish I had a red canoe,
Mmm, and a little bit more.
I wish I had a big full moon,
Mmm, and a little bit more.
I wish a had a girl like you,
Mmm, and a little bit more.
For then I’d had all things coming to me,
Mmm, and a little bit more.

Posted Jim Kirk, July 30, 2012 to the WCHA.org forum.

See here: https://forums.wcha.org/threads/red-canoe-song.9653/post-50980

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 12:39 PM

Houghteling, Houghteling,
U-Rah, rah, Camp Houghteling,
Praise to thee we sing;
Praise to thee our camp beloved.
U-Rah, rah, Camp Houghteling.

I want to be a friend of yours,
Um-m-m, and a little bit more.
I want to be a pal of yours,
Um-m-m, and a little bit more.
I want to help you all I can,
Um-m-m, and a little bit more.
I want to do all I can for you.
Um-m-m, and a little bit; um-m-m, and a little bit;
Um-m-m, and a whole lot more.

August, 1924, St. Andrew's Cross: A Church Mazaine for Laymen, pg 349

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 01:05 PM

....And here are some songs we sang that night--

I. TUNE: I'd Like To Be a Pal of Yours

I'd like to be a friend of yours --
Um--and a little bit more;
I'd like to be a pal of yours --
Um--and a little bit more;
I'd like to be a bumble bee buzzing 'round your door --
I'd like to give you ev'rything I've go
Um--and a little bit --
Um--and a little bit --
Um--and a little bit more!
I'd like to be a college girl --
Um--and a little bit more;
I'd like to be a sorority girl --
Um--and a little bit more;
I'd like to be a Gamma Phi--then I'd ask no more --
For I'd have all that's coming to me --
Um--and a little bit--
Um--and a little bit--
Um--and a little bit more!

October, 1921. The Crescent, Vol XXI, No. 4., pg 335-337.

See here: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Crescent_of_Gamma_Phi_Beta/PwgTAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22friend+of+yours%22+%22little+bit+more%22&pg=PA335&printsec=frontcover

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 01:07 PM

Given the date when this thread was started, I doubt the original poster is still interested, but the thread has missed the original source, which was substantially modified to produce the camp song versions.

From the Traditional Ballad Index entry for the song I collectively labelled "Mmm, And a Little Bit More":

The original "And a Little Bit More" was written by Alfred Bryan (words) and Fred Fisher (music), published by T. B. Harms in 1907; it was recorded by Arthur Collins and separately by Collins & Harlan; it was a fairly significant hit in 1907 (Edward Foote Gardner, Popular Songs of the Twentieth Century: Volume I -- Chart Detail & Encyclopedia 1900-1949, Paragon House, 2000, p. 276, estimates that this was the the #4 song in America in June 1907) -- but it was substantially changed to make it into the camp song (e.g. the "Mmm" replaces an instrumental chord). It's not clear what other changes happened in that process.

http://balladindex.org/Ballads/Paro202.html.

Subject: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a Friend of Yours
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 01:16 PM

I'd Like To Be A Friend

I'd like to be a friend of yours
Uh hm and a little bit more.
I'd like to be a pal of yours
Uh hm and a little bit more
I'd like to be a little flower,
Growing round your door,
I'd like to give yo ueverything I've got
Uh hm and a little bit more, Hm and a little bit
Hm and a little bit more.

1921. Indiana University Songboook. pg 184.

See here: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Indiana_University_Song_Book/tV45AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Like+To+Be+a+Pal+of+Yours%22&pg=PA184&printsec=frontcover

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 02:12 PM

7. M-m-m AND A LITTLE BIT MORE

I want to be a college girl, M-m-m and a little bit more
I want to be a sorority girl, M-m-m and a little bit more
I want to be an Alpha Xi, then I'll ask no more
Then I'll have all that's comin' to me
M-m-m and a little bit, M-m and a little bit, M-m and a little bit more

I want to be a friend to you, M-m-m and a little bit more
I want to be a sister to you, M-m-m and a little bit more
I want to be the Alpha Xi that you've been waiting for
Then I'll have all that's comin' to me
M-m-m and a little bit, M-m and a little bit, M-m and a little bit more

Untitled song sheets. Stetson University. [date unknown 1970's-1980's(?)]

See here: https://images.stetson.edu/photos/memorabiliacollection/archives-1253.pdf



Thanks for the info Robert. I will get a copy of the original song.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 02:34 PM

I Want to be a College Girl

I want to be a college girl,
um-hmm and a little bit more.
I want to be a sorority girl,
um-hmm and a little bit more.
I want to be a DELTA Z,
I can't ask for moe,
'Cause I'd have all that's coming to me,
hmm and a little bit, hmm and a little bit, um-hmm and a little bit more.

Now I am a college girl,
um-hmm and a little bit more.
Now I am a sorority girl,
um-hmm and a little bit more,
'Cause I have all that's coming to me,
umm and a little bit, umm and a little bit, um-hmm and a little bit more.

I want to date a college man
um-hmm and a little bit more.
I want to date a fraternity man
um-hmm and a little bit more,
Well, well well
I want to date a ----- (shout frat name) man
And I can't ask for more,
'Cause I'd have all that's coming to me,
umm and a little bit, umm and a little bit, um-hmm and a whole lot more!

1999. Delta Zeta Sings. Pg 10. Scans of a photocopied songbook.

See here: https://owudzalumnae.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/1/8/18182281/songbook_1999.pdf

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 02:39 PM

and e wrote: Thanks for the info Robert. I will get a copy of the original song.

I'm pretty sure I found either the Collins or the Collins and Harlan recording on YouTube. It took some real folk processing to produce some of the more modern versions. :-)

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: GUEST,, and e (no cookie)
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 03:10 PM

FELT SWIMING SYMBOLS
for
Your Bathing Suit

I want to be a Pollywog.
Umm and a little bit more

Then I want to be a Frog.
Umm and a little bit more.

And then I want to be a Fish,
And then I'll ask one more.

For I want to be a Flying-fish,
Umm and a little bit,

Umm and a little bit,
Umm and a little bit more!

Every Camp fire girl will want to win these honors for her Bathing Suit.

Price each, postpaid 25 cents.

Camp Fire Outfitting Company
197 Greene Street
New York City

May, 1926. Advertisement in Everygirl's: The Magazine of the Camp Fire Girls, pg 34.


See here: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Everygirl_s_Magazine/NvbmAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22i+want+to+be+a%22+%22and+a+little+bit+more%22&pg=RA8-PA34&printsec=frontcover

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: and e
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 06:23 AM

56. PALS

Pals, dear old pals, we’ll always be.
Sharing together friendships that never, ever, ever, sever.
Faithful and true, we’ll be to you.
Forevermore, we’ll be just pals, dear old pals.
I wanna be a friend of yours.
Um, and a little bit more,
I wanna be a pal of yours,
Um, and a little bit more.
I wanna be that little light,
Shining ’round your door.
I wanna help you all I can.
Um, and a little bit,
Um, and a little bit,
Um, and a little bit more.
I wanna be your buddy, buddy,
Though the road be smooth or rutty.
I wanna be a pal of yours,
Um, and a little bit,
Um, and a little bit,
Um, and a little bit more.
Somebody’s been here before,
Giving you lots of love.
T’was no inspiration
Sent from Heaven above.
That kiss you gave me,
Sure was a winner,
But it was no beginner,
’Cause somebody’s been here before.
I wonder who?

From Heart of the Hills: Summer Songs. 2020.

Retrieved from here:

https://hohcamp.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/songbook-finished22.pdf

Subject: I Wanna Be A Friend of Yours and a Little Bit More
From: and e
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 06:48 AM

I'd like to be a friend of yours, M---And a little bit more.
I'd like to be a pal of yours, M---And a little bit more,
I'd like to be a little flower growing round your door,
I'd like to give you everything I've got and a little bit,
M---and a little bit, M---and a little bit more.

I'd like to have a birch canoe, M---and a little bit more,
I'd like to have a big round moon, M---and a little bit more,
I'd like to have a girl like you, and I won't ask for more,
For I'd have enough to satisfy me, M---and a little bit,
M---and a little bit, M---and a little bit more.

I'd like to buy you a house and lot, M---and a little bit more,
I'd like to buy your shoes and socks, M---and a little bit more.
I'd like to buy you a big go-cart, for one, two, three, or four,
And I'd have enough to satisfy me, M---and a little bit,
M---and a little bit, M---and a little bit more.

Pg 30, untitled song, Forester's Songbook. [Undated (c 1935). Internal references to CCC and Iowa State University].

See here:

https://archive.org/details/1930s-foresters-songbook-ccc-and-iowa-state-university

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: and e
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 07:00 AM

20 A. Sung by Tom Dexter of the Lambda Chi Alpha
fraternity at DePauw University, Greencastle, Indiana, on December 29,
1963# Dexter's text is somewhat longer than the average variant
(which usually contains only about two verses). Although sometimes
sung as a "formal" fraternity song, it nevertheless is a favorite with
the members on more relaxed occasions. It is customary to insert
one's own favorite sorority where one presumably is dating, or would
like to date, in the third verse where the Alpha Phi group is named.
At this point it often becomes a contest between members to see who
can shout out his sorority the loudest.

I wanna be a college boy, hmm, and a little bit more,
I wanna be a college boy, now who could ask for more.
I wanna go to DPU, now who could ask for more.
Then I'll have all that's coming to me, and hmm,
and a little bit, hmn, and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit more.

I wanna be a fraternity man, hmm, and a little bit more,
I wanna be a fraternity man, now who could ask for more.
I wanna be a Lambda Chi, now who could ask for more.
Then I'll have all that's coming to me,
and hmm and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit more,

I wanna date a sorority girl, hmm, and a little bit more.
I wanna date a sorority girl, now who could ask for more.
I wanna date an Alpha Phi, now who could ask for more.
Then I'll have all that's coming to me, and hmm,
and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit more.

I wanna be a friend of yours, hmm, and a little bit more,
I wanna be a friend of yours, now who could ask for more.
I wanna be a clinging vine climbing up your wall.
Then I'll have all that's coming to me, and hmm,
and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit, hmm, we'll have a ball.

Pg 137, An Annotated Field Collection of Songs from the American College Student Oral Tradition

See here: https://archive.org/details/1965annotatedfieldcollectionofsongs/page/137/mode/2up?q=friend

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: and e
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 09:50 AM

20 B. [Tom] Dexter indicated that sometimes the DePauw
Lambda Chi's would sing a somewhat bawdier variant in their off
moments, usually when someone was drunk and feeling good.

I wanna be a college man, hmm, and a little bit more,
I wanna be a college man and get the campus whore.
I wanna be that college man, now who could ask for more.
Then I’ll get all that's coming to me, and hmm, and a
little bit, hmm, and a little bit, hmm, and a little bit more

Pgs 137-138. An Annotated Field Collection of Songs from the American College Student Oral Tradition

See online here:

https://archive.org/details/1965annotatedfieldcollectionofsongs/page/137/mode/2up?q=friend

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Want to Be a College Man
From: and e
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 09:55 AM

20 C. In the fall of 1963, Army recruiters stopped at the DePauw campus
and distributed literature headlining, "You too can be an Action Guy.”
The Lambda Chi's thereupon parodied the song again to:

I wanna be an Action Guy, hmm, and a little bit more,
I wanna be an Action Guy and go away to war.
I wanna be an Action Guy kicking down your door.
Then I'll get all that's coming to me, and hmm, and a little bit,
hmm, and a little bit, hmm. I'll rape your wife.

Pg 138. An Annotated Field Collection of Songs from the American College Student Oral Tradition

See online here:

https://archive.org/details/1965annotatedfieldcollectionofsongs/page/137/mode/2up?q=friend