BS: Much ado about (k)notting

Subject: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Mar 07 - 09:53 PM

I keep forgetting about this site--saw if first a couple years ago.....Knot Plot, but it is absolutely fascinating....just contemplating the images without attempting to understanding the math or programming is enough.
You can get lost watching the videos or just wondering "How'd he DO dat?"

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Mar 07 - 10:13 PM

Yikes! Love the videos of them "relaxing!"

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Mar 07 - 11:25 PM

Well there went my brain cell...

When I was young, I used to have nightmares/dreams about this sort of pattern, but they were perpetually pulsing, moving and flowing. I never could tell if I were conscious or not, as they were the most difficult images to pull myself away from. I hated seeing them, but couldn't stop watching them flow and throb... It's already 4.30am here and now any chance of returning to sleep has just gone!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 02:33 AM

Childhood memories for me too...Thanks Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 03:10 AM

Thought this was going to be a sex educational thread.....

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 09:42 AM

Well, I suppose that if your read The Ashley Book of Knots AND the Kama Sutra, you might achieve some sort of breakthrough in the sex-ed area...or maybe assure the financial security of your chiropractor.

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bee
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 10:08 AM

I won't look at the videos, but the static images are neat to look at.

Liz the Squeak, that's an interesting childhood visual memory. Brings to mind two items.

First, the intricate colourful weave and embroidered or appliqued patterns made by South American native peoples have been tentatively identified as stemming from hallucinogenic(sp?) visions, either from use of various plant drugs or from edge of sleep visions.

Second, and entirely personal: when we were little (under five), my mother played guitar and sang to put us to sleep. I used to 'see' the guitar notes as little floating three dimensional, round cornered triangles with round dents in their centres, in soft dark colours. Typically, there would be two or three colours shading into one another from the outside into the centre. It's a vivid memory.

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 11:45 AM

ahh...Bee...that is a form of Synesthesia, ih which people do things like "hearing colors".....some people even 'see' numbers as various forms & colors.

I suppose that the knots ...especially with the colors... might be overwhelming for some.

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 01:06 PM

I will have to have a careful look at that site when I have time.

We the figures I dance actually flow from some of the simplest 3D knots on there, and I am currently trying to figure out if a reel of 5 is possible. It's worth seeing if someone else has done the work for me.....

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 01:14 PM

And they have!

For all you dancers out there, follow this link


http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~charlie/3body/


4 bodies on a three chain is a reel of 4,The figure of 8 is a reel of three, and the 5 on a 4 chain or on an 8 is a reel of 5!

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bee
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM

Bill D., that's interesting - I knew what synesthesia was, but never connected it with that childhood experience. As described, it differs from my experience in that I 'saw' coloured forms, not just colours, and the effect faded away by the time I was six or seven. I remember missing it. There are a lot of changes in the brain (or at least in behaviours) around age six: as childcare workers, we were taught that many odd behaviours might resolve around that age, and for the most part that proved true, whether for social or neurological reasons.

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Rowan
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 04:59 PM

Bee, according to a telly program I watched (coincidentally) last night, there are quite a few people in the community who believe they are "normal" and thus unable to experience synaesthesia but who show up as experiencing it when tested. The most common test (apparently) for people who believe they don't have the ability, is one where the subject is shown letters of the alphabet (one at a time and randomly displayed) and asked to choose, from a palette, the colour they think best 'suits' that letter. Various tricks are used to prevent memory from playing any significant part but at least 1% of the population routinely and repeatedly associates colours with texts and/or numbers.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: Much ado about (k)notting
From: Bee
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 07:59 PM

Thanks for that bit of info, Rowan. It's an interesting phenomenon.