BS: Baseball is still American

Subject: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 08:21 AM

The resemblance of Baseball to the political trends today might be the opportunities that occur with injuries otherwise the dreams and hopes of baseball makes it the all-American game. Some teams are more oligarchic than others but talented individuals, youth and experience rule the summer.

May the hometown team come in at least fourth.
Go Sox, Dodgers and Mudville.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 08:32 AM

Gooooooo SENATORS!!!

oh, wait.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 08:43 AM

Being "American" is nothing to brag about these days and the best player, by far, in the "All-American" game is from Japan.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Raggytash
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 09:23 AM

Its proper name is Rounders

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 09:30 AM

Wikipedia says that 'the game's most direct antecedents are the English games of stoolball and "tut-ball".'

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 11:46 AM

Admiral Doubleday gets his due too.
Sure the best versatile player is Japanese but even Babe Ruth was from some ancestry. America has been a melting pot idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 11:54 AM

Ohtani is the best player period, dude. He's the only member of the 50/50 club in modern MLB history.
As for Doubleday, Alexander Cartwright might take umbrage with your assertion, if he were still around.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 12:01 PM

and by the way, Doubleday was a general not an admiral, and fought at Gettysburg with distinction.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 03:53 PM

Albert Goodwill Spaulding standardized the distances and baseballs with genius that works to this day. His company still exists.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Mar 25 - 03:27 AM

”Baseball is still American”.

And you can keep it. I found myself at The Minute Maid Stadium in Houston TX a few years ago, watching the Astros play some other forgettable team. Rounders played by grown men in funny clothes - I was absolutely bored out of my skull. Only the food, couple of beers, and the old train running backwards and forwards across one end of the stadium made it even remotely entertaining - an afternoon I will never get back.

Gimme Cricket every time.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Mar 25 - 05:32 AM

A.G. Spalding was also the prime mover behind The Abner Doubleday Myth. He put together a bogus commission, comprised of like-minded cronies, to prove that baseball was a wholly American invention whereas it had actually evolved from English bat and ball games. Any one with even a mild interest in baseball history learns early on that Doubleday had nothing to do with the "invention" of baseball. The whole thing was debunked shortly after it's manufacture by Colliers magazine.

www.19cbaseball.com

and for a bit more depth into the matter-

NBC Sports

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 25 - 08:01 AM

Actual baseball has more unifying aspects but bickering is part of it I suppose.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Mar 25 - 08:17 AM

As a longtime enthusiast of baseball history I hate to see someone try to speak authoritatively on the subject when they seem to know so little about it.

Some interesting things happened on opening day (actually the season started about 10 days ago in Tokyo). Tyler O'Neill, an off-season acquisition by the Orioles, homered on opening day for the sixth consecutive season.
Yankee's catcher Austin Mills hit leadoff and socked the first leadoff homer by a catcher on opening day in MLB history.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 28 Mar 25 - 03:28 PM

You lost me at "longtime enthusiast".

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 25 - 06:32 PM

The Yankee bat is roughly the same as the body line of a shark.
Organic engineering is genius.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: gillymor
Date: 31 Mar 25 - 09:53 PM

The "torpedo bat" makes so much sense I'm surprised it didn't come along sooner but as a fan of "small ball" and tightly contested pitching duels I'd hate to see it give the offense a further advantage, the game has already devolved into a "homer or strikeout" affair.
It's worth noting, though, that while the Yanks did hit 15 homers in their first 3 games, Judge, their #1 power hitter, accounted for four of them with a standard Louisville Slugger.

Subject: RE: BS: Baseball is still American
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 25 - 06:25 AM

I'm a baseball neophyte, but my wife is a baseball historian who could give the Schwab a run for his money. I've only been to Cooperstown twice in 60 years. It is more centralized today. Wrigley Field was more fun than the Red Sox Stadium, although I saw a 16 run inning at Fenway. In the ivy walled stadium outfield I saw a man call out for 7 minutes straight with some kind of circular breathing.