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BS: Old Pocket Watches

Greg F. 04 Nov 13 - 05:20 PM
olddude 07 Nov 13 - 03:12 PM
olddude 10 Nov 13 - 08:42 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 11 Nov 13 - 04:43 PM
frogprince 11 Nov 13 - 08:38 PM
GUEST,olddude 11 Nov 13 - 08:43 PM
frogprince 11 Nov 13 - 09:31 PM
GUEST,olddude 11 Nov 13 - 10:43 PM
frogprince 12 Nov 13 - 02:44 PM
olddude 30 Nov 13 - 04:51 PM
Will Fly 30 Nov 13 - 05:27 PM
olddude 30 Nov 13 - 05:59 PM
Will Fly 30 Nov 13 - 06:11 PM
Will Fly 01 Dec 13 - 06:36 AM
GUEST,olddude 01 Dec 13 - 10:21 AM
Will Fly 01 Dec 13 - 11:26 AM
olddude 06 Dec 13 - 05:13 PM
GUEST,olddude 06 Dec 13 - 11:24 PM
GUEST,olddude 07 Dec 13 - 03:26 PM
olddude 10 Dec 13 - 06:42 PM
Will Fly 11 Dec 13 - 04:14 AM
GUEST,olddude 11 Dec 13 - 01:36 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 11 Dec 13 - 01:41 PM
olddude 12 Dec 13 - 02:21 PM
Will Fly 12 Dec 13 - 03:15 PM
olddude 13 Dec 13 - 12:19 PM
Will Fly 29 Dec 13 - 04:12 AM
GUEST,olddude 29 Dec 13 - 05:11 PM
GUEST,greek 17 Jan 14 - 04:53 AM
Will Fly 17 Jan 14 - 07:07 AM
Will Fly 30 Jan 14 - 02:44 PM
olddude 14 Feb 14 - 11:02 PM
Will Fly 15 Feb 14 - 11:28 AM
olddude 26 Feb 14 - 04:26 PM
Will Fly 26 Feb 14 - 05:03 PM
GUEST,olddude 26 Feb 14 - 06:07 PM
GUEST,olddude 27 Feb 14 - 11:15 AM
Will Fly 27 Feb 14 - 01:49 PM
gnu 27 Feb 14 - 02:29 PM
GUEST,olddude 27 Feb 14 - 02:32 PM
olddude 31 Mar 14 - 02:11 PM
Will Fly 31 Mar 14 - 03:09 PM
frogprince 31 Mar 14 - 04:36 PM
gnu 31 Mar 14 - 06:10 PM
olddude 31 Mar 14 - 08:28 PM
GUEST,greek 24 Apr 14 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,greek 24 Apr 14 - 09:48 AM
Will Fly 24 Apr 14 - 11:23 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 24 Apr 14 - 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Nov 13 - 05:20 PM

Wow. I love it! - Can you post a photo of it when he's done with it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 07 Nov 13 - 03:12 PM

The perfect fishing watch. This bulova is the oceanographer 333ft watch. It is hand wind.   The band is a handmade sterling with turquoise and red coral underneath. I got the thing for 30 bucks threw it in the bathtub overnight .. perfect waterproof right on time. No kidding these are inexpensive and from the 60's ... best fishing watch for me ever

bulova


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 10 Nov 13 - 08:42 PM

After a little research the sterling watch band was made by Rose Castillo Draper when she was just Rose Castillo .. Made in Albuquerque NM a very sought after Navajo silver jewelry maker ... very cool


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 04:43 PM

Bulova put out some good watches for little money.
I wore one when traveling. It has a 24 hour dial, useful in Europe. Marked R.R.9162 Q. Swiss movement.
Paying for purchases in a drugstore, I saw it in a counter display of watches. That was in about 1960. Battery driven, keeps near perfect time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 08:38 PM

Wore the little 1891 Waltham & chain to our art association's holiday-show gala reception Saturday night. I just crank it up for special occasions. It is approx 2 minutes a day slow; would it make sense to tweak the speed set ever so little, or should I leave well enough alone? It's really a non-issue for me. I get a kick out of showing off the thing, wearing it with a vest my gal made for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 08:43 PM

you can tweek it without hurting anything bro ... just remember where is was at before you changed it in case you get it way out .. bump it up ever so slightly and see


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 09:31 PM

When I sent it to you, the back was just flopping open; didn't snap shut securely. Is there anything I should know now to open it, other than prying it open carefully, so I don't mess it up?


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:43 PM

use a flat knife carefully you will see the little bulge on back of case pop it open there. pry gentle. move regulator up third of knotch


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Nov 13 - 02:44 PM

OooKay...just gave it an itty tweak; now to see how it looks in a day or so...


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 30 Nov 13 - 04:51 PM

A 1952 Hamilton Durham Tonneau wrist watch. This model is very scarce. It is mint and clean and perfect running condition. 150 bucks if anyone wants it, that is a steal actually

great watch
saw one on Ebay for 350 and it sold

hamilton


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Nov 13 - 05:27 PM

Hey, that's a neat watch, Dan. I'm sorely tempted. I've got my eye on a Hamilton US Navy pocket watch. If I miss it, I may well go for your Hamilton.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 30 Nov 13 - 05:59 PM

100 bucks for you my brother.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Nov 13 - 06:11 PM

OK Dan, let's see how my snipe goes... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Dec 13 - 06:36 AM

Dan - I was out-sniped for the Hamilton Navy watch - so I'll take up your offer on the Durham. $100+ postage?


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 01 Dec 13 - 10:21 AM

ok bro
send me your address via PM
Dan


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Dec 13 - 11:26 AM

PM sent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 06 Dec 13 - 05:13 PM

My daily watch when I don't carry my 992b

this is a 1936 Hamilton Clark, tank ... I love the tank watches of this era

clark


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Dec 13 - 11:24 PM

this one is a 1939 Hamilton Dixon that Mahlon just did a full COA on it
I am going to ebay it so if anyone wants it here 125 bucks. Going to ask 225 on ebay

1939


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 03:26 PM

one more that I wear quite a bit. This is a rare 1935 Hamilton "Calvin"
tank. beautiful time keeper

calvin


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 10 Dec 13 - 06:42 PM

another from my collection that I absolutely love. This is a 1929 Hamilton Greenwich

29


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 11 Dec 13 - 04:14 AM

Those Art Deco-ish dials are very tasty. It's interesting to see how watches have grown in size. I often see a 1930s or 1940s wristwatch on eBay described as a "woman's watch" when, in fact, it might well have been a man's watch in intent.

My '40s dials are somewhere around 33mm in width - the one on my wrist at the moment (a Seiko solar powered one) is 40mm wide - and I've seen them up to 43mm or even 45mm in width! With dials like gas meters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 11 Dec 13 - 01:36 PM

so true Will. I love those old little watches. You can wear them and not even know it is on your wrist. The big chunky ones are a pain and catch on everything when you reach for something. The old little ones got soul for sure


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Dec 13 - 01:41 PM

Large dials, especially with stopwatch, etc. features are big sellers at present, many at $99 or less. Sears, Macy's and other big store advs. are full of them.

I like the smaller models of the past, and they need only have a seconds hand. Dates I get from my computer when I open up.

Years ago, I bought the Omega professional "moon watch" at a local auction. I seldom wore it; it was heavy, especially with the steel bracelet. Eventually, I sold it.

The heaviest watch I wear often is a Bulova (Swiss) with 24 hour dial (34 mm dia. case). It is now about 30-35 years old, takes a battery, and has never been serviced. I have mentioned it before, its price new was $75 or so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 12 Dec 13 - 02:21 PM

Will
read your PM's
Dan


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 Dec 13 - 03:15 PM

Read 'em Dan - action tomorrow or Saturday - and thanks for the kind attention.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 13 Dec 13 - 12:19 PM

I almost nailed a Hamilton 946 at a local auction but the price went through the roof ... that is one that I wish I had. They made so few of those 23J pocket watches. What a gem


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 29 Dec 13 - 04:12 AM

This is a nice chronograph from the 1960s. It's running very fast at the moment, and the chrono centre sweep hand needs resetting, so it's due a service in the New Year...

Swiss Emperor Landeron chronograph


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 29 Dec 13 - 05:11 PM

what a beauty Will. Love it


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,greek
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 04:53 AM

Hi everyone!
A friend of mine has a CHAMBERS LONDON 18k gold pocket watch. It was given as a gift to his grandfather and has stayed in the family ever since. It has some marks on the back cover: JM, 18, crowns. Do you know if it's of any value and where can I ask about it? I can't find any info on the Internet. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 07:07 AM

How long is a piece of string...

The best bet is to look at eBay "sold" prices for 100-year old 18k gold pocket watches. Unless the movement and dial are exceptional, all the value is going to be in the scrap value of the gold. Is it key wound or crown wound? Is it a hunter, half-hunter or open face? Is it worn, scratched, dinged, perfect? Engraved, machine-turned, unmarked? What's the case weight without the movement.

Also check out online auction catalogues - try:

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb

to see what the estimates are - but remember they're just a rough guide and may sell for a lot more.

If you can post a link to some pictures here, we may be able to help more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 30 Jan 14 - 02:44 PM

I've been having a Swiss Emperor chrono from the 1960s cleaned and serviced. It's currently being tested for positions, but I've been sent pics of the work in progress. There's a before and after pic of the movement here.

It was apparently swimming in old oil...


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 11:02 PM

So I bought three old watches on flea bay for a total of 60 bucks. This one had no crystal and looked like it was whipped. Mahlon and I finally got the case open and the movement was perfect. The dial is just dirty. He is restoring it for me. Turns out it is a 21 Jeweled Ball Hamilton ... What a find, can't wait to see it finished.

Ball


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 11:28 AM

That looks nice, Dan - you can see the quality through the grime on the dial - should clean up a treat, especially if Mahlon gives it his best!


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 04:26 PM

Hey Will
Look what Mahlon did to the Ball RR watch. I recased it as someone tried to pry the old case open but that is the same dial and hands etc.
what a job he did

b4

after


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 05:03 PM

Good grief, Dan - that is fantastic work - the man is a Genius!


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 06:07 PM

notice he reblued the hands also. I had a set of hamilton hands and he said no these are the original ball hands.

look at this movement and I was wrong, it is a 19J Ball Waltham not Hamilton. Mahlon said the Waltham Balls are harder to find

movement


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 11:15 AM

a very early 21J Hamilton 942 Railroad in an original Hamilton glass back salesman case. Very scarce

front

back

only recently I discovered if I flip it over I can tell the time :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 01:49 PM

Lovely stuff, Dan. Here's my Ball-Waltham movement from 1903:

face


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: gnu
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 02:29 PM

Art and craftsmanship personified. Quite the cleanup job.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 02:32 PM

just Beautiful Will,
and thanks gnu

awesome watch


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 31 Mar 14 - 02:11 PM

My latest toy, an official railroad Ball regulator
Ball


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 31 Mar 14 - 03:09 PM

That's sweet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: frogprince
Date: 31 Mar 14 - 04:36 PM

Ball Watch Company??? Looks as if someone was deliberately setting up one of my dumb jokes about fitting that thing in your pocket. : )


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: gnu
Date: 31 Mar 14 - 06:10 PM

I saw what you done, froggy. I was tempted.

Sweet piece, Dan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: olddude
Date: 31 Mar 14 - 08:28 PM

Lol


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,greek
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 09:43 AM

It is in excellent working condition. The only thing missing is the seconds hand. It is 18k gold except for the chain which is 14k. I don't know the answers to your other questions... Can you help me by looking at the photos uploaded here? Thank you very much!
Chambers London pocket watch

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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 07:07 AM

How long is a piece of string...

The best bet is to look at eBay "sold" prices for 100-year old 18k gold pocket watches. Unless the movement and dial are exceptional, all the value is going to be in the scrap value of the gold. Is it key wound or crown wound? Is it a hunter, half-hunter or open face? Is it worn, scratched, dinged, perfect? Engraved, machine-turned, unmarked? What's the case weight without the movement.

Also check out online auction catalogues - try:

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb

to see what the estimates are - but remember they're just a rough guide and may sell for a lot more.

If you can post a link to some pictures here, we may be able to help more.

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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,greek
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 04:53 AM

Hi everyone!
A friend of mine has a CHAMBERS LONDON 18k gold pocket watch. It was given as a gift to his grandfather and has stayed in the family ever since. It has some marks on the back cover: JM, 18, crowns. Do you know if it's of any value and where can I ask about it? I can't find any info on the Internet. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,greek
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 09:48 AM

Here is the link to my photos:

http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/bucketphoto2012/library/Watch

Chambers London pocket watch


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 11:23 AM

18k gold will almost certainly give it an immediate value of around £500+. Whether the watch is worth more will depend on the quality of the movement and the quality of the maker.

The hallmarks will give you an assay office and a year. I can't tell from the photos, but there may well be a (case) maker's mark as well.

If you can find a case maker and a date and a movement maker, then an internet search may well give you more info about probable worth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Apr 14 - 11:42 AM

Could you provide a photo of the back of the movement, after you open the inner case plate with the key wind opening? Or post any inscriptions that you find on the movement.

I haven't found Chambers in the watch book I have. It may be the name of a store or jeweler, and more information may be found on the movement.

The gold case suggests a good quality movement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Old Pocket Watches
From: GUEST,greek
Date: 27 Apr 14 - 02:43 AM

OK. I asked him to open it and I'll post more photos.


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