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Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name

Backwoodsman 04 Jan 26 - 01:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 26 - 01:00 PM

For those who, like me, wonder how, in the name of all that’s holy, the fat, ugly, orange baboon managed to get himself elected POTUS not once, but twice, here’s Michael Jochum (drummer with Korn and, inter alia, self-confessed political commentator) on his Facebook page yesterday…

https://www.facebook.com/1176851850/posts/pfbid02SgSnXqGUcncHJJvx7Wg3MiWty16NzGD6XMiW8HjTRL438GhvQQdkRYBZRxk1pTfAl/?

I think he could have a point…

For the benefit of the Facebook-phobic on here, the text follows…

“I’ve been watching an absolutely heroic amount of pearl-clutching lately from people who insist that J.D. Vance would somehow be “worse” than Trump once Trump’s inevitable political and biological expiration arrives.

Let’s get something straight: it has never been about Trump, not for one second.

Trump is just the mascot. The real story is the people who finally saw themselves in him and felt validated by what they saw.

I actually believe most of them will drift away when the cult collapses, like embarrassed fans of a one-hit wonder. Many of them will swear they were never really into him at all. The MAGA amnesia is going to be epic.

I used to wonder how it was possible that Trump could have won in 2016 and then again in 2024, given how emotionally toxic, morally vacant, and psychologically mangled he is.

I don’t wonder anymore.

I think he won for that exact reason.

He wasn’t a candidate. He was a mirror.

If you were a racist, you found your guy.
If you were a misogynist, you found your guy.
If money was your only religion, you found your guy.
If your heart was armored shut, you found your guy.
If you mocked disabled people, you found your guy.
If you hated intelligent people, you found your guy.
If you were a rapist, you found your guy.
If you enjoyed golden showers with Russian sex workers, you found your guy.
If you’d done absolutely nothing to confront your emotional wreckage, you found your guy.
If you were a serial cheater, you found your guy.
If you were a perpetual bankrupt, you found your guy.
If you stiffed honest workers, you found your guy.
If you were a conman, you found your guy.
If you mocked people’s appearances, you found your guy.
If you longed for a toxic Daddy, you found your guy.
If you were dissociated and disembodied, you found your guy.
If you were unconscionable in every economic dealing, you found your guy.
If you lied as naturally as breathing, you found your guy.
If you’d never eaten a green vegetable, you found your guy.
If you were a white supremacist, you found your guy.
If your ego contained a hole so large not even the presidency could fill it, you found your guy.
If you were a sociopath who cared not one molecule about other humans, you found your guy.

If he had only two of these traits, he never would have won. He won because he had hundreds of them, and millions of people recognized themselves in at least one.

This has never been about Trump. It has always been about the people who finally had their worst instincts validated.

Trump didn’t create the cruelty, he licensed it. He handed out permission slips for hate.

He is merely a symptom of a far deeper disease: collective toxicity.

If there is one sentence that explains Trump’s power, it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.”

That’s the part that should chill the spine.

Who knew that tens of millions of Americans were thinking such unconscionable things about their fellow citizens? Who knew how many white men felt so threatened by women and challenged by minorities that they were ready to torch democracy to feel big again? Who knew that after decades of apparent progress on race and gender, so many people were living in seething resentment, waiting for a demagogue to legitimize their worst selves and convert their bitterness into political power?

Perhaps we were living in a fool’s paradise.

We aren’t anymore.

– Michael Jochum,
Not Just a Drummer: Reflections on Art, Politics, Dogs, and the Human Condition.”


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jan 26 - 01:41 PM

International Law and the U.S. Military and Law Enforcement Operations in Venezuela from Just Security, a forum on Law, Rights, and US National Security.

Partway down the page, after a description of the events of January 3, is a description of the focus of this article:
In this article, we explain several international law issues raised by the operation, some of which have been addressed in greater depth in the Just Security collection of articles on the drug boat strikes and other operations dealing with Venezuela. In particular, Operation Absolute Resolve implicates the prohibition on the use of force against other States (e.g., under the UN Charter), extraterritorial law enforcement, and initiation of an international armed conflict (e.g., under the Geneva Conventions).

The bottom line is, unlike the boat strikes the U.S. military has carried out to date that have occurred in international waters against stateless vessels, this operation, striking Venezuela and abducting its president, is clearly a violation of the prohibition on the use of force in Article 2(4) of the UN Charter. That prohibition is the bedrock rule of the international system that separates the rule of law from anarchy, safeguards small States from their more powerful neighbors, and protects civilians from the devastation of war. The consequences of flouting this rule so brazenly are likely to extend well beyond the case of Maduro’s forcible ouster. Likewise, the initiation of an armed conflict – triggering the application of the law of armed conflict, including all four Geneva Conventions – has meaningful consequences, ranging from the protections now owed to Venezuelan nationals in the United States, to the application of rules governing treatment of Maduro and his wife while in U.S. custody, to accountability for any war crimes committed in the course of the conflict.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Jan 26 - 03:49 PM

Herself has a Theory: "I'm not saying it's the whole thing, but [Agent Orange] may have a downer on Maduro because he managed to hang onto power despite losing an election, while he couldn't despite his worst efforts." My theory is different: A junior officer in the Pentagon was given the exercise: "If you needed to take the head of Venezuela captive and put him on trial, how would you do it?" .... and this ended up (marked "2/10 See Me") in Stinkpuss's stash of top-secret bog paper in the Throne Room at Mar-a-Lago, then he read it and thought "because *Biden*" ....

I'm waiting for the heads of the (currently) Free World* to actually man up and call him out on this, but suspect on current form that I'll be waiting forever. I'm particularly disgusted at Starmer repeating the same mealy-mouthisms on a loop tape: that frog in particular is now well and truly boiled.

* I no longer believe I can include the USA in this. Apologies to those afflicted.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Jan 26 - 04:29 PM

(Heart-)Breaking news: the **** in Chief is after Greenland again. Mebbe Venezuela was just a warm-up exercise, and to check whether anyone would give him the spanking he's been begging for since before he was out of nappies.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 04 Jan 26 - 04:42 PM

What I keep thinking about is covered in this article - I don't have access to the full article:

A Pardon and a Prosecution in New York Show Trump’s Personal Geopolitics

"The facts in the cases of Nicolás Maduro and Juan Orlando Hernández are strikingly similar. The men’s fates are not.

"A man in a blue puffer jacket is escorted by dozens of security officers.

"When President Juan Orlando Hernández of Honduras was extradited in 2022, his nation’s capital celebrated. President Trump pardoned him last month anyway.

"Two Latin American strongmen were charged in Manhattan with corrupting their governments, using state power to import hundreds of tons of cocaine into the United States.

"One, the former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, was abruptly pardoned by President Trump last month.

"The other, President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela, was captured on Saturday in a military raid that Secretary of State Marco Rubio characterized as a law enforcement operation. Mr. Maduro was brought to the United States to face fresh allegations of narco-terrorism."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 04 Jan 26 - 09:44 PM

As the Trump continues his own objectives without senate approval with many "executive orders". Nixon was impeached for less than this USA dictator, who sides with Putin. The world is in a bad place now because of him. Greenland next and Putin Europe then as his disregard to international law example. As for diplomatic emmunity the felon has his on charges against him, but not on a president another country that ignores that one also. He places the world in a bad place now till voters have any sense then.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 01:08 AM

I am banned from fb and now it seems X thinks I am a robot

Probably for the best as I do not agree American policy for many years thank you for your ongoing thoughts on the matter

Ray


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 06:53 AM

Ray, the online bots are certainly picking on you, so you must be doing something right!


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 09:10 AM

I wonder if he'll get his old friend Putin to send a few ships to Greenland to validate his proposed takeover.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 09:14 AM

Lol ~ yea that is the way I am looking at it positively

Time will tell ~ country building blocks are emerging and countries being offended or not will respond eventually UK had to have backs to the wall before pent up feelings emerged, I recall

Playing with fire can get you burnt

Ray


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 10:32 AM

Minnesota's Tim Walz (former VP running mate of Harris) is not going to run for a third term as governor because of the Somalian welfare check scandal blooming in his state (much to Trump's glee and promotion). Most of the Somalian's who left Africa were not pirates but it takes just a few bad eggs to set up a scheme and profit from it. During COVID, apparently (remember that, Mr. Trump?), and from there out. Minnesota's US Senator Klobuchar is interested in running. Now if the stars (literally!) align and New York's Senator Gillibrand admits she was wrong about Al Franken during the "Me, Too" movement and keeps her mouth shut after that, Franken should run again and resume his seat from Minnesota.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 11:46 AM

A view not seen in the Media.

Venezuala and the Truth - Craig Murray

Here is an excerpt:-

The mainstream media covered Venezuela non-stop yesterday. They many times mentioned Delcy Rodríguez, Vice President, because Trump stated she is now in charge. They never mentioned that 2026 marks the 50th anniversary of the torture to death of her father, socialist activist Jorge Rodríguez, by the CIA-backed security services of the US-aligned Pérez regime in Venezuela.
That would of course spoil the evil communists versus nice democrats narrative that is being forced down everybody’s throats.
Nor did they mention that the elected governments of Hugo Chávez reduced extreme poverty by over 70%, reduced poverty by 50%, halved unemployment, quadrupled the number receiving a state pension and achieved 100% literacy. Chávez took Venezuela from the most unequal society for wealth distribution in Latin America to the most equal.
Nor have they mentioned that María Corina Machado is from one of Venezuela’s wealthiest families, which dominated the electricity and steel industries before nationalisation, and that her backers are the very families that were behind those CIA-controlled murderous regimes.
Economic sanctions imposed by the West – and another thing they have not mentioned is that the UK has confiscated over £2 billion of the Venezuelan government’s assets – have made it difficult for the Maduro government to do much more than shore up the gains of the Chávez years.
But that Venezuela is a major production or trafficking point for narcotics entering the USA is simply a nonsense. Nicolás Maduro has his faults, but he is not a drug trafficking kingpin. The claim is utter garbage.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 02:57 PM

A very interesting response to tRump’s Venezuelan ‘adventure’, from the ‘I F**king Love Australia’ FB Page. In true Aussie style, it’s blunt, sweary, but right on the button…

One response to tRump’s Venezuelan ‘adventure’…

As usual, for the benefit of the Facebookphobes, here’s the text (which, unfortunately, doesn’t include the piece that prompted the IFLA response, but which can be viewed by following the link).

And, FWIW, on the basis of their opinion, I f**king love Australia too…

”Alright, here we fuckin go.

To all you absolute knobjockeys clapping like trained fuckin seals because Trump “got the job done” in Venezuela, let me ask you something real slow so it lands. Do you morons actually understand what the precedent is here, or are you just addicted to the sound of your own outrage?

This is one country marching into another country and ripping out their leadership. Elected, rigged, corrupt, whatever label you wanna slap on it to feel good at night. That’s still foreign invasion. That’s still smashing sovereignty with a crowbar and calling it freedom.

And spare me the dictator bullshit. Coming from Donald Trump, that’s fuckin rich. This is the same bloke who incited an insurrection because he lost a free and fair election. Stormed his own Capitol like a drunk bloke who got told the pub was closed. And now he’s pointing fingers about corrupt elections? Get absolutely fucked.

Then they wheel out the narco-terrorism line. Oh yeah, suddenly he’s the world’s top drug cop. Except he pardoned the former president of Honduras, a bloke tied to moving hundreds of tons of cocaine. Hundreds. Tons. That’s not a typo. That’s Scarface levels of gear. But nah, tell me more about law and order, champ.

This is where you should be shitting yourself.

Because once you cheer this shit on, you’ve basically said, “Yeah cool, powerful countries can just take what they want if they don’t like who’s running the place.” That’s the fuckin rule now. No UN. No norms. No alliances. Just vibes and missiles.

So what’s next then, legends? Why not take the Panama Canal back? Why not grab Greenland because it’s “strategic”? Why not bully some other country that’s sitting on oil, minerals, shipping lanes, or anything else Wall Street’s got a hard-on for?

That’s how dictators think. That’s how empires rot.

There used to be an order. Messy, flawed, but there was a basic understanding of lines you don’t cross. UN charters. International law. Allies not stabbing each other in the back for profit. That baby has now been hurled out the window with the bathwater, and you’re all cheering like it’s a fireworks show.

And let’s not pretend this bloke’s in control. This is an erratic, decaying president whose health is clearly going south, whose popularity is in the toilet, whose economy promises turned out to be bullshit. Grocery prices didn’t drop. Rent didn’t drop. Wages didn’t surge. Instead they cooked the inflation numbers, massaged unemployment stats, and expect you to swallow whatever slop the agencies shovel out.

The walls are closing in on him, and when that happens, strongmen don’t calm down. They lash out. They get reckless. They need distractions. They need enemies. They need cheers from idiots online telling them they’re doing a great job.

And that’s the last fucking thing the world needs right now. A bloke with a fragile ego, nuclear toys, and a crowd of mega trolls jerking him off every time he destabilises another region.

This isn’t strength. It’s not leadership. It’s not justice.

It’s a slippery fuckin slope straight into global instability, and you muppets applauding it are the same people who’ll be crying later going, “How did it all go so wrong?”

You’re watching it go wrong in real time, you dumb bastards.”


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 03:38 PM

Oh dear.
I've just found myself agreeing with a comment by Jeremy Corbyn on his facebook page:
"Invading another sovereign nation and abducting its president is a violation of international law.
What is preventing Keir Starmer from admitting something so glaringly obvious to us all?"


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 05 Jan 26 - 09:14 PM

So with you on this one Nigel


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 03:34 AM

Politics is a bag of worms ~so many twists and turns and decisions made by countries' leaders are often it seems pragmatic and in the countries interests ~to later return to "bite your bum" not all decisions are seen the same from different stand points!!but it is important to work within established legal precedent

Ray


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 03:53 AM

Well said Ray.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 05:43 AM

Graham Jones is a former Labour MP for Accrington South, a Front-Bencher for several years and, during that time, the Chair of the Parliamentary Committee on Venezuela. Here’s his opinion on the US-Venezuela situation, and it’s a very informative piece indeed, well worth reading the entire piece. It’s a long read, so I won’t reproduce it here, and I’ll leave it to those sufficiently interested to follow the link.

I believe that Graham Jones’ piece sheds light on the reasons for the failure of other world leaders, including Keir Starmer, to condemn the actions of the Trump regime.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 06:29 AM

And Danish Prime Minister, Mette Frederickson, speaking to the tRump regime yesterday…

”I have to say this very directly to the United States:

It makes absolutely no sense to talk about the need for the US to take over Greenland. The United States has no access to annex one of the three countries in the Commonwealth.

The Kingdom of Denmark - and therefore Greenland - is a part of NATO and is therefore covered by the alliance's security guarantee. We already have a defense agreement today between the Kingdom and the United States, which gives the United States wide access to Greenland. And we from the Kingdom have invested significantly in the security of the Arctic.

I would, therefore, strongly urge that on the side of the United States, stop the threats against a historically close ally and to another country and another people, who have very clearly stated that they are not for sale.

Mette Frederiksen
Prime Minister”


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 06:51 AM

CNN:

“ 'We live in a world in which you can talk all you want about international niceties and everything else,' deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller told CNN’s Jake Tapper. 'But we live in a world, in the real world … that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power,' Miller said.

“ 'These are the iron laws of the world' .”

Used to be. Could be again. Is that what the world wants? Is that what 51% of American voters want?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 07:00 AM

See Aesop and Thucydides.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 07:02 AM

Backwoodsman:
Yes!

Unfortunately: The Kingdom of Denmark - and therefore Greenland - is a part of NATO and is therefore covered by the alliance's security guarantee.
Ukraine also had a guarantee from UK, Russia, AND USA secured as part of their giving up their nuclear arms.
Guarantees to some people are not worth the paper they are written on

Sorry to have to agree with you.
Normal service will resume . . .


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 11:30 AM

That’s fine, Nigel - it does us good, I believe, to occasionally find ourselves in agreement with those whose politics generally differ from our own, it’s a confirmation that not everything is as black and white as we otherwise might believe it to be.

Either way, please carry on!


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 02:05 PM

I think we all have a lot more in common that a lot of people seem to think. Strip away the irrelevancies (sp?) of party politics and most on here are caring people who will help others in need. There are the trolls of course but even those may have some good qualities. Occasionaly :-)


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 02:24 PM

79% of Americans believe the US is doing wrong.
   MSNOW reports


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 04:15 PM

I completely agree DtG, those were my exact thoughts when I read Nigel’s post.
Happy New Year to both you and Nigel!


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 02:21 AM

Free speech is being attacked it seems with police backing and connivance IF the evidence of the 22 tear old who had criticised ** is to be believed (Yahoo news)

US is becoming a police state?

Should contracts be made under duress and with someone who has acted "without" the International law?

Ray


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 03:18 AM

According to ‘Daily Express US’ on FB, the fat, orange baboon is now suggesting the cancellation of the upcoming mid-term elections, saying that the Democrats ‘don’t deserve to compete’.

It’s 1930s/40s Germany all over again. Why isn’t anyone doing anything about it?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 03:37 AM

Invading Venezuela and threatening to annexe Greenland are huge successes. Nobody is talking about Epstein now. Mission accomplished.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 07:05 AM

*Agree* in spades, Aethelric.

I took the time to look up Thucydides (thanks, Lighter), and the expression "fear and self-interest" jumped out at me. It then occurred to me that the ultimate con is to stampede victims into doing things which are against their self-interest, traditionally by pushing the Fear button hard and often enough. This thread and its predecessors are awash with examples. The counter-spell of course is knowledge, and guess what the first action of a budding dictator will be --- ?

.... Methinks the arrival of the Grim Squeaker at (the rubble of) the White House is well overdue.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 08:11 AM

A chain of comments on an ElReg article:

In a system called democracy, society should not just "have to adapt" to any minority-made (i.e. billionaire-made) life- and world-changing developments...

"a system called democracy" != "democracy"

This fact has been the source of some confusion in the US of A for many many years. Even the POTUS has problems with it.

Surprised no one has piped up with "it's a republic, not a democracy" yet.

'cause it is an Empire, not a republic.

[side thread on Star Wars]

Any mention of "Empire" in the context should be followed by the "no clothes" bit. It just fits.

Oh, his dementia is already this far? **checking** Oh, not yet, but it wouldn't surprise me...


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 09:10 AM

I said ages ago that he will do anything to prevent Democrats taking either house in November. Correct me if I am wrong but a brief check seemed to reveal that the president has the constitutional power to suspended elections in time of war.

Just saying...


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 10:41 AM

MaJoc, be sure to consult Aesop's "The Wolf and the Lamb" and especially Thucydides' "Melian Dialogue."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 10:41 AM

Piracy on the High seas?

Siege of Venezuela to start presumably to starve native Venezuelans to surrender to the new order of a "puppet" of the US for oil?

Ray


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 11:01 AM

It's outright theft of the natural resources by Trump, who will no doubt take a cut of the profits. It seems King isn't enough, he wants to be Emperor of the New World (including Greenland). If Canada wants to arrest Trump and put him on trial I'm fine with it.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 06:39 PM

It took Chancellor Hitler 6 months to abolish Democracy with the aid of mass murder. The mass arrests of opposition parties, with 4,000 arrests on one day and 20,000 in the weeks to come, silenced citizens.

Trump's ICE is ill-prepared to do the same in America, at least not without a Reichstag fire-style con job. The National Guard has already started practicing for martial law with their deployment without cause in American cities. Trump behaves as if he has an enabling act to carry out formerly illegal acts.

The number of ICE sponsored murders are increasing as if by design.
do not click if you do not want to witness murder


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 10:52 PM

Donuel Thank's for the link that I have passed on to many. Trump and his yes men continue to be showed as liars now.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 02:15 AM

the latest shooting of a woman by immgration officewr is outrageous


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 04:05 AM

Indicative of the times under dictators of the past

Is this US of A?

Ray


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:55 AM

yes


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 08:12 AM

Trump puts a hold on 10 billion dollars in child care. It concerns the democratic states of California, Colorado, New York, and Illinois.

The 2025 Project Trump deconstructionists might fear that Trump is near his decomposition/death, and they must do everything, everywhere, all at once, while he is still above ground.

In my neighborhood, the Goddard Space Library is being dismantled, and sensitive instruments are being roughly moved by amateurs. This is where our top space scientists used to collaborate and conduct advanced research.

If Trump disappears for a long time, my speculation may prove correct, like in the movie Dave, but without an imposter.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 08:34 AM

I am thankful that Ms. Good, who was shot three times in the face by ICE, is not being shown being dragged from the minivan and being laid in the snow.

They do show a physician at the scene being denied giving any medical help to the victim or even checking for a pulse.

The administration is claiming that once again, leftist domestic terrorist Democrats are to blame.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 08:40 AM

“AMERICA IS A GUN

England is a cup of tea.
France, a wheel of ripened brie.
Greece, a short, squat olive tree.
America is a gun.

Brazil is football on the sand.
Argentina, Maradona’s hand.
Germany, an oompah band.
America is a gun.

Holland is a wooden shoe.
Hungary, a goulash stew.
Australia, a kangaroo.
America is a gun.

Japan is a thermal spring.
Scotland is a highland fling.
Oh, better to be anything than
America as a gun.”

By Brian Bilston

Nothing ever changes, does it?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 09:08 AM

Fox News:

“The woman who lost her life was a self-proclaimed poet from Colorado with pronouns in her bio.”

Catch the drift?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 11:55 AM

Start spreading fake news, you're tweeting today
You want to be a part of it, DC, DC
Your kanclebound shoes, they are longing to stray
And schlep around the heart of it, DC, DC
I wanna wake up in that city, that gives the creeps
And find your king of the hill, top of the heap

Your small Queens blues, they're melting away
You'll make a brand-new grift of it, in old DC
If you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere
It's up to you, DC, DC

You better believe it, folks
If you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere
Come on, come on through
dictator swindler
King of the world,


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 11:56 AM

Just heard on UK news: The FBI and some other agency are declining to investigate the shooting in question. Any solid info on that, folks?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 12:01 PM

If Lighter thinks he/them is outing the victim,
she was also the mother of a six-year-old.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 12:03 PM

I was watching an episode of Rick Steves travel program and the visit was to Versailles and Fontainebleau in particular, with a look at the sub-palace behind Versailles and Marie Antoinette's "farm." Trump has many similarities to Louis XVI as someone so vain and dedicated to his own wealth and comfort. Instead of tanks rolling through Washington, D.C., a lot of people would appreciate the sound of tumbrels. I'll bring the yarn and knitting needles.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 12:07 PM

Lighter, I finally caught the drift that FOX gnus is calling the victim a worthless lesbian.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 02:27 PM

Update: the Felon-in-Chief has put his thumb down on the information flow required for a proper investigation of the shooting. Much rabble-rousing turditude from the Vice-Felon, which I carefully decline to listen to. Anyone would think they both know they've something to hide.

Meanwhile, back at the threats to Greenland: Might Denmark's best reply be a flotilla of Viking longboats being rowed up the Potomac, and someone in a horned* helmet setting fire to the White House? but I forget: the Narcissus in Chief has preempted any such move by starting his own Götterdämmerung exercise with JCBs.

.... Sigh: everything that happens is a distraction from everything else that's happening.

* Anachronistic, but His Ripeness wouldn't recognise a Viking without them.


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