BS: Trespassing Hunters

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 09:43 AM

Too bad these hunters weren't smokers, then we could get serious and ban them from all public places........oops, but hunting is a hobby, isn't it ?

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 10:57 AM

Sometimes I think "No Hunting" signs are just invitations. In the hunter's mind, "No Hunting" implies that nobody hunts the property and, therefore, game will be plentiful and worth the risk. A sign like "Private Hunting Preserve" is more effective because it communicates the idea that the property is hunted. It also implies that the game on the property "belongs" to the property owner and that that unauthorized hunting is poaching, not just trespassing. It also warns the trespasser that if he has a run-in with a landowner that landowner is apt to be armed and just might mistake a trespasser for a deer.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: MMario
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 11:18 AM

Garg - you need to get out more - hunting season for a big portion of the country doesn't start until almost the end of November. despite all your attempts - not everyone does things the way you do.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 10:04 PM

Mario - I guess you are right....follow the sun south and the USA East and hunting begins later. The ideas of ownership, stewardship, size, and private meld also. Cross the ol' Muddy and 30 acres becomes piss-in-the-bucket....and a more "frontier mentality" views "ownership" more a matter of "longevity" than the spinster's song of "this is mine, you can't be have it, it belongs to me.

B-W-All...My very-first boss informed me that the clearest, cleanest, way to lead "wandering willy's" into an outhouse was to post it with a sign stating,

KEEP OUT!

...forbidden fruit is always sweetest.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 10:12 PM

You're right Garg!!!

WET PAINT signs - people just HAVE to check, don't they...

hey LilyFestre, we might be on to something here...

as they say Garg, out of the mouth of babies and fools...

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 10:23 PM

Six, yes SIX deer crossed the end of my driveway as I was leaving this morning....I have to say that it did my heart good...do you think they know where they are safe?

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 11:41 PM

Have not bagged my buck yet this year.

Yes, Michele I would have been just off your driveway, on the county road ready to snag one of the six.

Thanks to your insightful postings, the GPS will be posted to the "hunter-newsgroups," no most local hunters will probably never "trespass" again, but with such prime property as pasture for fat wildlife you will not see their little white buttucks ever again. Hunting is best, where the pasture is not over-grazed.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

The tighter you make your fist...the faster the grains of prosperity and abundance sift through.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 11:49 PM

Well, don't make yer fist too tight then Garg... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From:
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 02:50 PM

I have put radios in the woods. I also blast my car's radio. I don't know if that helps. I can't hear the gunshots and I hope they can't kill deer near my home. I have had hunters arrested. I have a restraining order. I have called police and the game warden several times. I now wake up at 6am for my daily ritual of turning on radios and car stereos...along with honking my horn. It's become routine now. Short of getting a hit man, I don't know what else you can do.

KA

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 03:38 PM

Hey Garg....

    Go for it man. The deer are in MY driveway (not a public domain)...that means if you shoot one, I get some fresh venison and you will end up with a hefty fine and maybe even some jail time for shooting towards a residence. :) Nice try.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From:
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 03:55 PM

I have put radios in the woods. I also blast my car's radio. I don't know if that helps. I can't hear the gunshots and I hope they can't kill deer near my home. I have had hunters arrested. I have a restraining order. I have called police and the game warden several times. I now wake up at 6am for my daily ritual of turning on radios and car stereos...along with honking my horn. It's become routine now. Short of getting a hit man, I don't know what else you can do.

KA

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:24 PM

Michelle - acquaint yourself with a compass - 320 degrees are mine.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

May you have blessed winter and not suffer for red-meat.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 01:15 AM

Garg,

   No luck, buddy. They were crossing our driveway, from one side to the other. Besides, had you been sitting at the end of the driveway waiting for them, they would have seen you. This would only serve to drive them further back onto our property. You would have had to sit in the road too as our neighbor has his property equally posted. Nice try though. :)

Michelle

PS. I don't eat much red meat...wouldn't miss it much if I never had it again. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Willie-O
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 10:20 AM

Jeez, isn't there a law against road hunting where you are? (Which I gather is Pennsylvania.)

I've spent far too much time reading this thread but it shows up some interesting differences between American and Canadian property law.

Trespassing: in Ontario, in order for someone to be trespassing, either the land must be posted and/or fenced, or the owner or legal tenant of the property must have instructed them to leave, and been disobeyed. It's kind of a chilling thought that as an innocent hiker who has crossed no visible line, someone can jump you and arrest you without warning...

Also the laws are quite specific about how far from a residence hunters must be. I believe it's 100 yards. Hunting from a vehicle, or from a public road, is strictly prohibited. (The conservation officers sometimes put up a dummy deer in a field near a road, then hide nearby until some doy-oi blasts it).

Our comprehensive firearms laws are very specific about handling, storage and transportation of firearms, in or out of hunting season. Most gun owners hate that, but it has tended to make most of them commendably careful. Works for me. The cops are not shy to get involved in such matters--game wardens (conservation officers) are in extremely short supply, if firearms enforcement was entirely left to them, I bet we would be closer to your situation.

I've been living in deer country...well, all my adult life. Had very little trouble in the 20 years in our current location. Guess the yahoos are strangely absent--well we don't get too many New Jerseyites hereabouts, cept my wife. Instead, most of our Merican visitors are from Pennsylvania. I guess they hunt at home.   

Never posted our streambanks against fishing...the trout have declined so much that it's not worth the trouble. You're right about the litter problem they (used to) bring with them though. It wasn't much compared to what we get on our 2000' of paved road frontage though. Beer fridges, you name it. One time somebody dumped a deer carcass, which they had already gutted, over the bank along the road. ???? Musta been wormy or something--anyway, THANKS YOU @#$%^&*(! ASSHOLE.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 10:46 AM

There are laws about how far from a residence you must be but it hasn't stopped folks in the past, at least not around here. As from shooting from the road, I think you have to be at least out of your car!!! The locals here have fun poking at the guys who park their big expensive trucks along side of the road and walk into the fields about 100 feet or so...you know, until they can find a log or hay bale to park their lazy behinds on....some go in a bit more...but there are plenty who don't...you can see them as you drive by! At the end of the day, they drive back to their camps that they spent some cash on and pay both property and school taxes on....you'd think they'd put a little more effort into the hunting. I'd say they were just out there enjoying nature, but they come during hunting season and hardly go into the woods!

The last time my husband was in the woods hunting, three hunters (later found to be from New Jersey..big surprise) were walking through the woods yodeling. Yeah...deer respond to that in a big way, just not the way that any hunter would be hoping for!

As for the litter....we belong to a fly fishing group and spend at least one Saturday a year picking trash up around streams in the area. A few years back our group had to hire a bull dozer to come in and get all the crap out....everything from bags of garbage to tires to old washing machines. It's downright disgraceful.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 11:25 PM

NO PROBLEM Lily - shoot and drag accros the line... is the name for the game.

one Saturday a year picking trash up

(Therefore, you are a community matriach, and a contributor to the local evironment????? (less than .003%)

Perhaps, your affinity for trash...is what draws this breed to you limited "oasis."

Given my druthers...within a square mile... (640 acres) your less than 1/20th....your 400 yard strip....continues to be "piss in the bucket." Your are making an entirely tripy experience out of 10 weeks of the year. Let GO GIRL!!!! You are creating enemies....not friends....(and the good Lord knows your hubby needs as many freinds as possible - even if you try to shake him off, like and unwanted flea.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 09:11 AM

Garg,

    All is quiet on this mountain, the flatlanders have gone home and now only the locals remain. I never said 30 acres was anything huge, but you know what? It's home to me and I really couldn't possibly care less what you have to say about it. As for picking up trash that one day a year, sometimes two....well DUH...I know it's not a lot, but it's more than most people do. Given that there are quite a few of us, we make a decent sized dent.

   
    Just an example of the stupidity that goes on here:

Pennsylvania Deer Hunter Killed

Last Update: 12/1/2005 9:46:14 AM
Posted By: Leigh Kjekstad

Investigators say a Sullivan County man was shot and killed while hunting with friends Wednesday morning.

State game commission officers tell 18-news John Bomberger of Watsontown was hunting in Lincoln Falls Township. They say it appears Bomberger was a "stander," meaning his fellow hunters were walking toward him in an attempt to steer deer in his direction.

    As I said, all is quiet on this mountain, no need for me to go on about the trespassers anymore. Thankfully, folks are taking the hint. It seems that the surrounding neighbors have taken to posting their land too....only a few nearby gunshots this year.

You obviously are aiming to shake my apple cart a bit with your *attempts* at personal comments, but frankly, since you are talking completely out of your ass, I'm having a good laugh at your expense. :)

Toodles for now and if you hunt, mind your manners and stay safe!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 10:30 AM

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 11:25 AM

I knew you were going to say that. :p I was just having some fun...besides...everyone has said all they are going to on this topic, including me! :)

Michelle

Subject: Land
From: GUEST,SHOULD I ????
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:52 PM

Hello i am 14 years old and i have noticed a large percenteg of land behind my house. I was woundering if i was to be cauhgt exploring on the land would i get a fine? I have researched the land and the people say the mans dead. thre are no sighnes or anything. what should i do ? Lampasas, Texas

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:58 PM

Stay off the land, dickhead!

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:24 PM

hey calm done im just 14!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:52 PM

Gee whiz! I could maybe get sympathetic with Marty! Try to talk straight with no bullshit and all the soft hearted whiners come out of the woodwork!

OK, I won't try to steal Marty's act, if he doesn't try to steal mine...

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 09:30 PM

"None of the property is fenced"?

First - good fences make good neighbours.

However, the whole situation is doomed. Intelligent and reasonable precautions only work with intelligent and reasonable people. The only way to get rid of the idiots is to do idiotic things.

You'll just have to move to somewhere civilised, like New York - and see if you feel safer there.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 09:48 PM

thre is a very old fence that is torn down and there is no look of the people replacing it if he is still alive "Guest"

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST,Call the police
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 10:04 PM

You should call the police. Do not say there is someone hunting on your land you call them and say this their is a man with a gun near my barn I am in fear of my life, they will come. Trust me they have to come. I promise when the first hunter get's arrested and he will be arrested for at the very least trespassing he will tell his buddies and the word will spread like wildfire. It could very well solve your problem. Also, an alternative, if they are parking on your land have their vehicle towed. Under your no trespassing signs place a sign that says all violators vehicle will be towed at the expensive of the owner. Find their vehicle talk with a local towing company find one who will be willing to tow them off your property you might have to sigh a wavier so they will be able to tow them but call them up have them come get there vehicle. Hit them where it hurts the most their pocket book they will get the hint and stop hunting on your land.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Dec 05 - 04:37 PM

I have some one hunnting on my land. This hunter set his tree stand up on our property once without our permission. The stand diapeared one night. In responce he called the cops and and said I stole his dear stand. The cops came out listened to the problem and took the guys dear stand back. Only his stand was cut to shredds. This season the same guy is hunting off my land agin this time the deer stand is on his property facing mine. He has to be hunnting off my land becaue he lives in a subdivision and the only safe shot is towards my land. I cant toch his stand becaues its his property on his property. I called the DNR and they did absolutly nothing!!!! How can I get this guy in some serious crap with the law???

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: gnu
Date: 05 Dec 05 - 04:47 PM

Gosh... most jurisdictions have a provision wherein you can't discharge a firearm within a certain distance of a dwelling. Check it out.

Again, I must voice my disdain for the posts which brand hunters as assholes. Not that my opinion matters. Obviously, those of you who are absolute vegans are much more civilized than I.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Dec 05 - 05:08 PM

Not all hunters are assholes, gnu. Just the assholes! :)

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 05 Dec 05 - 06:53 PM

If the hunter in the deer stand shoots deer from his property while the deer are on your property, you get the deer. I know it's not an ideal answer, but maybe it would deter the guy. Also, if you are like me, you have a life and don't have the time or the inclination to police your property during every single daylight hour.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 10 Dec 05 - 10:10 AM

Ahhhh...a lovely winter morning.
The sky is gray, the fire in the woodstove is burning nicely, I have been sitting right here working on some music and watching the chickadees, nuthatches, cardinals and bluejays darting to and from the feeders, the kittens have been snuggling behind the woodstove and the dog at my feet....BAM.

I knew it was too good to last. Hunters. Shooting TOWARDS my house. My husband and I threw on our boots and orange hats, grabbed a pen, paper and camera and drove up the road. There stood a middle aged man holding his gun and looking at us like a kid caught stealing cookies from a cookie jar.

"Sir, you realize you are shooting in a safety zone." said my husband in a very calm voice.

Blank look.

"Sir, there are houses there, over there and over there."

"I know." says the hunter.

"Then why are you hunting here?"

"I was shootin' over there" the hunter said while pointing in the direction of a neighbors house which is over a knoll and behind some trees.

"Exactly, there is a house there. This is a safety zone. Where are the others?"

"They're over there in that field (pointing to our field...the one clearly marked with NO TRESPASSING NO HUNTING). They're driving the deer."

Okay..that pissed me off.

So I said, "You can't hunt here. This is a safety zone. The field beyond here is posted. They can't hunt there. You will have to leave."

"But they're over there (points)."

"I don't care, you need to leave." My husband repeats himself one more time, "Sir, you are hunting in a safety zone. It is illegal to hunt here."

Another blank look.

We drive up the road just a bit, stop by his truck, write out a description, plate number and time. We drive to the top of the road, turn around and come park about 50 feet from where this man is trying to hunt (might I add that he is no more than 10 yards from the road which is also illegal). We sat and waited. After 5 minutes or so, the guy gets in his truck, drives up the road and picks up his 4 other buddies. They drive off. We wait and then drive up the road to make sure they kept going (elderly neighbor lady and 2 empty camps). We turned around and made a loop around "the block" where we found them again. The same lone fellow now in the bottom of a field. Eventually, if he keeps walking, he will not only be hunting on our land but again within the safety zone limits.

The state police have been called. The game warden will be next...the second I see that guy in the bottom of our field...which, of course, IS POSTED.

It never fails.

As you know, people have hunting accidents. This year, a young man was shot by his father while driving deer. *shaking my head*

So...perhaps now I can get back to looking up some tunes....and there goes another gun shot...swear to God. *sigh* Guess I'll be going back out and the music will have to wait.

Michelle

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Dec 05 - 10:33 AM

Go get 'em, tiger.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 10 Dec 05 - 06:25 PM

You could always try the sign

Be Warned
If you shoot at our house, we may shoot back in self defence.

It would make ME think, ah - but then I'm not an idiot...

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 09:43 AM

Well, it's that time of year again and the same group is back again this year. They were asked FIVE times this morning to leave our land which is posted. They ran faster. Ok. I got their plate numbers, called the police for the game commissioner phone number (no one had answered the number I called), explained the situation and an officer will be here shortly. YEAH!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 10:45 AM

Complaint filed, arrest to be made (good ole' license plate numbers). The only thing that remains to be seen is if they plead guilty or whether we have to go to court to testify and identify.

GOOD RIDDANCE!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: gnu
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 11:12 AM

Sigh... I hope the idiots lose their guns and licences. Too bad you couldn't have gotten some pics.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: jeffp
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 12:45 PM

It would be nice if their vehicle was to get towed.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 12:47 PM

Ah yes....well, the idiots came back and AGAIN were on our land. This time I took the digital camera, drove up the road, drove back down, hopped out of the car to take a picture (which I did get) and was approached by a hunter who said, "HEY LADY, WE AREN'T ON YOUR LAND." I told him I hadn't spoken to him and wasn't interested in what he had to say. He continued on. He told me I had 2 choices. Move my vehicle or (sarcastic tone here) if a deer MIGHT happen to run across the road and they just HAPPENED to shoot at it and a bullet hit me...OH WELL. I started video-tapping and got most of it (him saying all that BS) as well as his hunting license number. The police have been called back.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Barry Finn
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 02:23 PM

Michelle & Susan, you are both just to kind. Become an concerned citizen & make a citizens arrest, become an aux inforcement officer. Find out if they park on your land, can you clamp/boot their car/truck & can you charge them for it's return. On reservation land where they have their own law enforcement the local game warden conficates every thing, vechiel, fishing poles or firearms, whatever's in the vechiel & whatever's on their person. Post that "TRESPASSERS HUNTING WILL BE SHOT". Doesn't matter if it's true or not. If some one's parked & waiting, like Garg, let the dogs out & cover their ass with your own weapon, I know that's a bit extreme but shoting assholes is fair play. If they do manage to bag a buck take pictures of them, the game, their vechiel & the posted signs, then take the game too. If they're stupid enough to hunt on posted land or if they're so stupid they can't read then they're stupid enough to fall into your hands & will have to deliver up to you & the law what's demanded of them. After the embrassment of their actions are known it's likely that you'll be left alone soon enough. A few more dogs wouldn't be hurt either, trained dogs, pointers & retrievers. Big time law suit for a hunter shooting one of those.
Good luck this hunting season, you can probably bag at least one hunter each season, it's your turn now.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: jeffp
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 02:59 PM

You have enough to go to the court commissioner and make a criminal complaint. The district attorney's office will have to investigate and either file charges or explain why they don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: gnu
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 04:04 PM

GOOD STUFF! I hope they put the bastards behind bars for assault. Threateninig you IS assault! And, the death threat is, as jeffp said, CRIMINAL!

Of course... nobody would like to see the assholes go to jail... they would be of much better use cleaning up the side of a highway, or monitoring tresspassers or sommat.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Becca72
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 08:30 AM

Anything new happening with this?? I'm dying to know how it all turned out!

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: LilyFestre
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 08:13 PM

Just waiting on court dates...it all depends how the guys plead out.

All has been quiet since mid-Saturday afternoon.

I will say that the second man who tried to scare me off had been hunting with some neighbors of ours. My husband had a fit when he heard what the guy said to me and we went out AGAIN in our truck. We found the guys hunting in the nearby field and waited as they loaded their deer into the truck. My husband drove around the "block" (HA HA HA...think miles here) and I thought he was going to just talk to the guys but he damn near rear-ended them and their truck as he drove up behind their parked vehicle at a high speed and stopped very abruptly just inches from the tailgate (not that I condone this but he was MAD and being protective of me...and wanting them to know he meant business...he's a ..very quiet man, built like a freight train...always cool and collected except for an occassion such as this...he would not have harmed any of them...that was NOT his intent at all). The coward who ran off after he figured out I had him on video tape wasn't there. My neighbor was there and the men hashed things out....the guy with the gun will have to deal with the law and the gang of guys who no longer want to hunt with him because of his behavior.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: jeffp
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 09:43 PM

Sounds like some positive developments. Thanks for the update. Please keep us posted.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 10:45 AM

Five hunters killed in Greece

Wolfgang (in the mood for helpful suggestions)

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: GUEST,BIG BILLY IN TENNESSEE
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 09:05 PM

I myself have the same problems in Tennessee.Now wait I know people think we are all the same down here in Tennessee,but that is not the truth.I myself have a lease and we practice qdm. The local check out station has pictures of the deer we have killed off of our lease. With the pictures they asked where you kill the deer and what time. After we took a couple of 150 class deer off there we have had a increase of trespassers on our property.The last day of archery season of this year I lucked up and haverested a 142 class 8 point while I was at the local checkout station the gentlemen behind the counter asked if he could see the deer. With my head held high I said yes.As we stood there talking about the deer he asked where I had taken the deer.I said down the road a couple of miles. He then proceeded to tell me of a place he and his brother sometimes slip onto.As he begin descibing the place it suddenly dawned on me he describing my lease.After he finished his story and my blood pressure was reaching it's peak he asked do you know where I am talking about. I said yes I Do that is my lease and you are trespassing.With a surprised look on his face followed by a slite grind he had the nerve to say it is only trespassing if you catch us have a nice day. Oh and by the way that's a good deer buddy. No I did not drag him back out by the hair of his head, and no I did'nt wait for him to get off of work. Lord knows I wanted to but I believe he will get what he deserves.I reported him took the local game warden, but of course the gentlemen had to be caught in the act.What are landowners and law abiding hunters to do? God bless our local game wardens their hands are tied too. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:11 PM

Maybe he'll think twice about heading out onto your lease now that you've had a good look at him. His goose is cooked, so to speak.

All of this has me itching to pull out some Faulkner. Go Down, Moses, for a start.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters
From: Skivee
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 12:32 AM

Set up some car alarms and set them to honking to scare off deer and dumbass trespassing hunters. Remote control so no confrontation occurs.
Maybe better yet, a sound system and hidden outdoor speakers for you to shout at about 150 Db, "You Dumdass Trespassing hunters get the hell off my land." Keep it up till they and the deer are gone for the hunting season. The deer will return.
I'm still a bit confused as to why these guys aren't under arrest for threatening you while armed and other crimes.
P.S. It's easy for me to make these suggestions for the comfort of my home. Your situation might make these not-so-good ideas.