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Subject: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Nancy King Date: 11 Jul 09 - 12:30 AM Yippee! It's time to get down to the business of planning the program for the 2009 Folklore Society of Greater Washington Getaway! This year's Getaway will be October 2-5, at the West River Conference Center on the Chesapeake Bay, and you're all invited! If you'd like more information about the Getaway, put "Getaway" into the filter box at the top of the Mudcat page, set the age for a year or two, and you'll get more than you can read in a month or so. Before long there will be additional information on the FSGW website (www.fsgw.org). One of the cool things about the Getaway is that we really try to tailor each year's program to the interests and talents of those who will be attending. But we can't do that until we know who's coming and what they're interested in doing. The Program Committee -- Carly Gewirz (Mudcatter "Carly"), Lorraine Van Buren (Mudcatter "Lorraine"), long-time FSGW member and Getaway-goer Kathie Mack, and I -- have been working on a fine lineup of invited guests. So far we have confirmed Jon Bartlett & Rika Ruebsaat, Joy Bennett & Chris Koldewey, Pete the Spy, Ed Norman, Molly Andrews, and Steve Cormier, and we're working on a couple more. Now we're starting to put together lists of possible workshops, and we're ready for your input! So, if you plan to come, please let us know that, and tell us what you would like to see on the program. Are there workshops you'd like to lead, co-lead, or attend? Workshops from previous years you'd like to see repeated (or not)? We're open to all suggestions, and although not all of them will end up on the final list (please do not assume that just because an idea's been discussed here, it will ipso facto be on the program...), we can assure you that all ideas will be given due consideration. You can post to this thread with your ideas, or PM any of us. It would be a great help, by the way, if this thread could be reserved for program issues -- other Getaway topics should be posted elsewhere. Surely there will be a more general Getaway thread started soon -- or you could start one yourself! Anyhow, this one's for program, please. The Getaway is all about participation, so start participating now! Looking forward to seeing you all in October! Nancy |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: My guru always said Date: 11 Jul 09 - 04:42 AM Really looking forward to it Nancy! Was going to suggest a MudGather, but I guess you guys don't need one as the whole weekend is one big Gather *grin* |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: kendall Date: 11 Jul 09 - 05:06 AM The Getaway is like a good marriage. When you have a good thing, dont mess with it. I like whatever is presented there. We Taurus types lack imagination, you know. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Micca Date: 11 Jul 09 - 09:14 AM I have FINALLY got agreement for the time off to attend, so Nancy, I am happy to Run/assist/co-host "Parodies" ( as I have done in the past with several co-conspititors!) and or anything else you feel I can help with!! I Hope the songwriters showcase that ran several years now is included, Hearing how others came to write a song then hear the song is a highlight for me, If You need a co-ordinator put me down for that too Micca |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: jacqui.c Date: 11 Jul 09 - 02:25 PM I'd love to co-host with Micca on a Parodies workshop. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: dick greenhaus Date: 11 Jul 09 - 03:50 PM I'd cast a resounding vote (more, if it's allowed) for a "Songs From The Shower" workshop. I know it won't be the same without Jonathon, but it's a topic that generates some fine music. And equally fine nostalgia. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Amos Date: 11 Jul 09 - 04:31 PM I think one workshop that might be of interest is songs written in the last fifty years or so that have timeless qualities similar to the enduring folk songs of yesteryear. Modern singer-songwriters often produce really telling songs--I am thinking of Kate Wolf and John Prine and Chrsitina Lavin, for examples. But some modern songs have no lasting qualities, while others seem to be classic in their style--a couple of examples are "I remember Loving You", and "The Kind of Love You Never Recover From". I'd be interested to hear what Folkies feel is really rich in recent lore. On another facet, I have done enough Parodies to fill a several-hour show, so I am happy to contribute as many as are wanted in any formt. THey cover a wide range of topical and general situations ranging from lost puppies to naked men hanging on second-story drainpipes. Here is a partial list. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Susan of DT Date: 11 Jul 09 - 04:46 PM The ballad workshops have had subtopics recently, so how about either (1) illegitimate children or else (2) stepfamilies? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: CET Date: 11 Jul 09 - 06:06 PM Charmion and I are planning to be there. The parodies workshop would be fun, but I have misgivings about Micca and his "co-conspititors" ... maybe if I wear a raincoat and sit in the back row. I had a lot of fun last year doing the workshop on gratuitous violence with Barry Finn. There's an endless supply of songs about crime and punishment, too. Another idea that's been running around inside my head is a workshop on the kind of songs that, metaphorically speaking, hit you upside the head with a two by four, i.e. the first time you hear it, you can't rest until you've tracked down the lyrics and learned it yourself. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: ClaireBear Date: 11 Jul 09 - 07:55 PM J'll be there, but my brain is in a persistent fog today and I can't think what to request. I'll think on't. Claire |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Peter T. Date: 11 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM I can't be there this year (boo), but I was sort of itching for a "Songs of the Chesapeake" session last time (you've probably done that before, or maybe I missed it.....?). yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Dan Schatz Date: 11 Jul 09 - 08:18 PM I really like that last idea - though it may need to be expanded to allow more folks to participate. Maybe "Songs of Local Waters" and allow folks to define what is local for them? Incidentally, I am thrilled to see Pete the Spy on the list. A lot of folks are in for a real treat! Warmly, Dan |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Susan A-R Date: 11 Jul 09 - 09:23 PM I'd be willing to host some sort of instrumental jam, either slow jam, waltzes, or a genre jam, such as Irish or Quebecois or even a good old dance tune chestnuts circle. I realize that there are more singers than players. Another possibility might be (if we can find singing victims) a melody instrument back up workshop, to include things like, listening for chords and key, not treading on the singer's toes, simple rhythm tricks etc. I'm relatively new at this, but maybe some of us could team up. Looking forward to being back after missing a year. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Bobert Date: 12 Jul 09 - 09:23 AM I have a gig on the 2nd so won't be there until Saturday the 3rd... I'd be willing to "facilitate" the blues workshop or do a mini-concert... I probably won't get there until noon... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Severn Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:29 PM Here's my annual collection of hare brained suggestions, or at least Part One. We'll see if any of this might float...... How about "Sailors Named Jack"? That shouldn't be enough to narrow the sea songs to any less than two hours...... I'd still like to hear a workshop of songs of the metal navies, WWII and beyond with maybe Barry Finn and/or Dick Greenhaus at the helm..... Could any younger people in attendance younger twenties, teens and below be rounded up to sing more current playground songs, rhymes and parodies than the ones us older fogeys grew up with? This could be done seperately or in conjunction and contrast with the memories of their elders, maybe showing what's still around (like "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school) and what's changed with the times and culture....... Songs with known sheet music origins that worked their way into and sometimes collected from tradition. That might be up, say, Dottie Hurley's alley, with or without tin pans...... Since the Getaway can be classified as a retreat of sorts, maybe a workshop involving songs mentioning "Strategic Withdrawal" from Culloden Moor to St. Clair's Defeat to the Trail Of Tears to wherever wounds have been licked and tails were dragged between legs. Hey, a lot of what we do's all about "moving forward while looking backwards at the same time", right? While trying to learn from past mistakes and history, of course....... "Wood If We Could"-Songs involving wood from the logging process to carving, fashioning tools and building with it. This one could be further divided up into splinter groups...... Or maybe just tools and implements in general, real or imagined, the process of inventing them or them merely exisiting as speculation or dream of something we'd like to see built, or to build with......... "Esprit de Corpse"-Songs dealing with cadavers, their movement, rowdy wakes, burial rites and maybe some "Unquiet Grave" and "Lowlands" type visitations or visits thrown in and Rosin the Beau/Ye Mariner's All" mere death wishes, to boot...... Songs about the ascent to Heaven or the descent into Hell or even doing the Limbo Rock in Purgatory, reading back issues of People Magazines in the waiting room while waiting for decisions to be made and numbers to be called, This could be one workshop or two. If two are scheduled against each other, it would be interesting to see who comes to each and who hedge their bets by showing up at both....... ....Just some random thoughts. Maybe I random into the ground, but maybe some of these 40% Brain Flakes will be worth raisin to the level of reality. As always, there may be more of the same..... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: skarpi Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:32 PM hallo all , I am not sure if I can make this year , I only have job until 13 th of September :>) unless some one offer me a job in IKEA US , no just a joke . I made a promise to Dani , and now I may not be able to keep that promise :>(( I have to see about this , we´ll know in time . this money crisis here in Iceland is realy bad , we are nearly Bankrupt nation :>( so it is not easy here at the moment . we are goin same way as Argentina . s o more later . All the best Skarpi Iceland ( criseland ) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Amos Date: 12 Jul 09 - 02:28 PM Well, seeing as its Dani, amigo, just let me know and I'm willing to struggle mightily to fill your shoes... A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: beardedbruce Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:00 PM I'll offer to cover $10 of Skarpi's costs. Anybody else want to finance his vocal contributions? Bruce 8-{E |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:24 PM Don't MAKE me come over there and GET you, Skarpi.... I second the playground rhymes! Maybe we could get Azizi to come to do this, finally?! Also second the "songs from the shower". The doo-wop last year was a real treat. folk, schmolk: sometimes it's great just to let loose and sing what feels great to sing! How about a "there but for the grace of god" workshop where people bring a song that was their first introduction to the world of 'folk' and/or which changed the path of their musical lives? Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Susan of DT Date: 12 Jul 09 - 09:16 PM The Songs From the Shower workshops that I remember Jonathan leading were the playground songs, campsongs, girl scout songs, parodies, mentioned above, and NOT dowap. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: jacqui.c Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:09 AM How about a workshop entitled 'Mans Inhumanity To Man'? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: MMario Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:32 AM FUTZ!!!! I am committed to a wedding that weekend. My family dang well better stop planning stuff for getaway weekend! yeesh! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:26 AM Just to let you know I plan to be there, again, this year. I have no ideas about topics, but I am always willing to help out. Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Amos Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:56 AM I'd enjoy a workshop of genuine wrangler, roper, and cowhand songs. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Nancy King Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM Some good ideas here! Keep 'em coming! Micca, glad to hear you'll be with us again! You too, Edmund -- we missed you last year! In fact, we'll be pleased to see everyone! MMario, you really need to get your priorities straight -- or make sure your family has a pre-marked calendar blocking out certain times. Let 'em know NOW that you won't be available October 1-4, 2010! Sheesh! Amos, there is certain to be at least one session of cowboy songs, as one of our special guests, Steve Cormier, is a former cowboy and oil rigger, and specializes in songs of that genre. Ed Norman, another of our special guests, also does a lot of cowboy songs. As for the rest of the suggestions, we'll be considering them all, but won't have many firm decisions for some time yet. Keep those suggestions coming! Oh, by the way, we just got word that West River expects the new dining hall to be ready for us! I'll believe that when I see it, but it does sound promising. Nancy |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Charley Noble Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:21 PM Judy and I will be traveling for much of September to the Pacific Northwest. I really don't know if I'll have the energy to blast off as soon as we're back home. I really like Severn's idea about "Songs of the Metal Navy" or expanding it to include songs of the Steam era Merchant Marine. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Leadfingers Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:28 PM Sadly I dont think I can get across this year , but if any one else does a Whistle Workshop , I hope some one can give me a FULL report ! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 13 Jul 09 - 09:15 PM What Roger MEANT to say was that he'd like to lead the Songs About Food and Cooking workshop. Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Fortunato Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:06 PM It seems to me we ought to have a "Remembering Johnny Collins Workshop". I would come and sing but I think Barry Finn or someone whose genre is closer to Johnny's might be better to lead it. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 14 Jul 09 - 07:36 AM 'cause there are some of us who come to the Getaway mostly to hear you sing "Breakfast Blues", Roger. Or mostly anything else : ) This may be bringing coals to Newcastle, but what about a Pete Seeger session? Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Zen Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM I'm seriously thinking about coming across to this this year (I live in Scotland) and perhaps afterwards travelling on to visit my sister who lives in Chicago. I've watched so many of these Getaways come and go over the years and have always been sorry not to be there. I'm mainly an instrumentalist (old-timey, Scottish, Irish, blues), less a singer though I try, and would join in anything along those lines if I can make it. Any local help getting to and from airports would always be interesting! Zen |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Bill D Date: 14 Jul 09 - 10:50 AM Zen...IF you decide to try it, book flight into BWI (Baltimore-Washington International) as 1st preference. Others are possible, but mostly not as convenient. (Time to start another thread for this sort of non-program discussion) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: ClaireBear Date: 14 Jul 09 - 12:28 PM Well, I've thought on't as promised, and there are two subjects I'd like to see covered some year or other: 1. Creepy songs (which could be ghost ballads, halloween material, Cthulhu anthems, whatever) 2. Regional vocal tricks (here I'm picturing sharing techniques for such diverse activities as Scandinavian kulning/cow calling; that vocal thing that Arab women do behind their hands to express appreciation for a good performance; hollering; the Basque Irintzi; maybe even just plain yodeling...). As usual, I am not in a position to lead either but would certainly participate in both. Cheers, Claire |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Gorgeous Gary Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:01 PM I was afraid I was going to miss a large part of the Getaway due to a conflict with one of my association's annual board meetings. However, due to budget limitations, they decided I don't need to travel to this one. I tried hard not to look *too* happy when they told me, but...WOO-HOO! Silver linings in recessionary clouds, eh? 8-) So anyway, I'm willing to host or co-host something. Parodies obviously (though it looks like you've got a pile of volunteers already). Of course I can do Humorous songs too. Picking up on Amos's suggestion earlier in the thread, every couple of years there has been a "Modern Songs in the Tradition" workshop. I ran it one year (and could do so, or co-run it again). I usually toss in a James Keelaghan or Stan Rogers. -- Gary |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Dan Schatz Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:52 PM How about "Beggars, Tramps and Bums?" A nice recession topic, and one that reaches across different traditions nicely. Another idea that occurred to me was something along the lines of "Good Times" - songs to balance out all the hard times and troubles folks are going through. I can't think of a title for it, but I've sometimes wondered about a workshop on "Songs That Have Been Sung To Death So Nobody Sings Them Anymore But In Fact They Are Great Songs So Let's Sing Them Anyway." (STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA?) Needs a better title, methinks. Dan |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: ClaireBear Date: 14 Jul 09 - 10:07 PM "Gold Chestnuts," Dan. C |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 15 Jul 09 - 07:00 AM Or 'Treasure in the Attic;, Dan. 'Cause they get shelved by the folks who are sick of hearing them, then young 'folks' come along and want to dust them off. Sometimes they are afraid of the wrath of the elders who think they are hackneyed! My daughter is dying to bring one out that a rock band recently covered : ) Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Ron Davies Date: 15 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM Guests: I sure hope Dwayne Thorpe is coming. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Dan Schatz Date: 15 Jul 09 - 12:57 PM "Treasures in the Attic." That's nice. Almost as good as "STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA." Dan |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Bill D Date: 15 Jul 09 - 12:58 PM "(STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA?)" It was done at an Open Sing years ago as "Oh No, Not Again!" by Tom McHenry -(Padre)The thing is, in the Getaway group, it is hard to find songs that someone is not doing.... And last I heard, Dwayne Thorpe was 'likely'.... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 16 Jul 09 - 10:16 AM Yeah, Dani, that's what I meant. Songs About Food and Cooking. Thanks for the compliments! Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 16 Jul 09 - 08:09 PM I don't think it's so much that they aren't being done, but that sometimes someone would LIKE to sing something, and there are plenty of people who might (perhaps with good reason) roll their eyes, and that can be a little intimidating when you're dying to do a song! If there's a workshop dedicated to such, people will know to avoid if they so desire : ) Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Nancy King Date: 17 Jul 09 - 11:40 PM Refresh! Come on, folks -- we need your IDEAS! There have been some good ones so far, but we need MORE! Nancy |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Nancy King Date: 20 Jul 09 - 12:11 PM Refresh |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: David Ingerson Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:56 PM I've heard so many good things about the Getaway that I'm finally deciding to splurge and attend this year (from Portland, Oregon). My specialty is Irish singing, both Anglo-Irish and Sean-nos. I didn't check out past years' programs, but I didn't see anything about Irish songs in the suggestions for this year. I could lead a workshop in the history and types of Irish singing traditions or in sean-nos singing, or possibly some other part of the former (rebel songs, emigrant songs, etc), but with the caliber of attendees, there might well be someone else more qualified than I am. Or maybe even just a song circle of Irish songs. Cheers, David |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Amos Date: 20 Jul 09 - 11:33 PM I was just going to suggest a workshop of Green and Orange songs. I'd definitely stop in for that! A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Severn Date: 21 Jul 09 - 02:43 AM Hey, Nancy, Some workshop suggestions (unused and recycled from last year): "Hatred"----"One Sunday Morning", "Sam Hall", "I'm A Good Old Rebel", people, jobs, political institutions, nationalities or just the world in general. Vent with a passion! "On The Lam"-Exiles, fugatives, outlaws, Foxes and Hares and just people running scared. "Cities & Towns"-places you're proud of being from or merely glad you're far away from. People who belong there and sailors, travellers and bumpkins just passing through. Louisville, the hometown of Uncle Dave's heart to Jock Hawk In Glasgow-type first impressions. Vile Fluids (Alchohol, poisons, medicines, potions, sewage, even Scottish waulking songs. Anything from "Cod Liver Oil" to the contents of Larry Marr's "Big Five Gallon Jar". "Birds"-Hawks, chickens, ravens,cranes, goneys or linnets. From hungry vultures to bluebirds of happiness. Disguises-Anything from "The Half Hitch" to "Claudy Banks" to "Queen Elenor's Confession" to "Sovay" to "The Handome Cabin Boy" Disguise is the limit! "Diseases"-acne to pox to the common cold, from "slow condumption killing you by degrees' to "The Boogie Disease" (the doctor says you might get better, but you won't get well!, or even the Heebie Jeebies! Just some ideas. See if any of this floats THIS year..... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: Severn Date: 21 Jul 09 - 03:13 AM Like, but not nescessarily confined to the Chinese calendar, We should pick an animal each year and make a workshop of it. Combinations, maybe. Mules and burros, marsupials, crows and ravens perhaps..... Or garden vegatables-from Guy Clark's "Home Grown Tomatoes" to "Oh My God, Them Taters" to "The Young man who Wouldn't Hoe Corn" or maybe expand it to all crops and harvests, "Law, De law, de law" (or "A Court Low")-Songs involving the legal and judiciary practice or practitioners and some folks who actually CAN complete a sentence. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: kendall Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:22 AM How about a frailing banjo workshop, or a storytelling workshop? I'd be glad to lead the storytelling. Ifthere is a fund to get Skarpi over here, let me know and I will gladly contribute. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 21 Jul 09 - 08:24 AM Ditto re: Skarpi. Anyone want to put that together? Dani |
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