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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 16 Sep 07 - 06:12 PM The Promotion of Failure in Bush Administration By Keith Olbermann MSNBC Countdown Wednesday 12 September 2007 Transcript from Crooks and Liars. " To this day, millions of Americans believe we invaded Iraq because of 9/11. 33 percent still believe there was some interconnection between Saddam Hussein and the nightmares here and in Washington and in Pennsylvania. Iraq, of course, had nothing to do with 9/11. Then. Six years later, that has changed. Iraq has distracted us from punishing those responsible for 9/11. If another 9/11 comes, our focus on Iraq will surely have been central to that nightmare. How did we get here? What consequences have been paid by those who brought us here? In our number one story tonight, no one person is to blame. And only some of those who are, recognize it. As we reported yesterday, former Secretary of State Colin Powell tells G-Q magazine he is "sorry" he gave the world wrong information when he told the U-N of the threat Iraq supposedly posed. He was not fired for doing so. He paid no price we know of, other than the admitted "blot" on his record, and whatever toll his conscience exacted. Unrepentant, however, is former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, also talking to G-Q; Saying he does not lose sleep over the war… declining to apologize for it… despite pushing for it… despite using 9/11 - the day after 9/11 - for his own benefit, to pursue his goal of bombing Iraq. Rumsfeld, not fired for his performance, but for politics… now in private life… reportedly trying to see how much he must tell, to make for a profitable tell-all. Rumsfeld was served, and the nation ill-served, by a flock of Pentagon hawks, bent on war, seeing 9/11 not as an obligation to answer,. but an opportunity to exploit. Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz who also tied Iraq to 9/11, who ridiculed warnings we needed more troops to invade Iraq - not fired - named head of the World Bank, until resigning in disgrace. Defense Policy Board Chairman Richard Perle - not fired - forced to retire not for pushing the war, but for allegedly profiting off it. Undersecretary Doug Feith, who cherry-picked anti-Iraq intel - not fired - despite a Pentagon report later refuting Feith's claim that Iraq and al Qaeda were in league. And as you go higher in the administration, your reward for being wrong on the war grows proportionately. Deputy National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley - responsible for the 16-word lie about Iraqi pursuit of yellowcake from Niger - not fired - promoted to National Security Advisor. His boss, Condoleezza Rice, who threatened us with mushroom clouds - not fired - promoted to America's chief diplomat: Secretary of State. CIA Director George Tenet, who called the case for war a "slam dunk" - not fired - given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. And within the president's circle of advisors, marketing the war: Andy Card and Dan Bartlett - neither fired. Card retired, Bartlett promoted, then retired. Karen Hughes - not fired - promoted, stunningly, to the task of winning hearts and minds in the Muslim world. But let us go higher still. Vice President Dick Cheney, creator of his cherry-picking intel apparatus, gave its poisoned fruit to the media and then fed the lie to us on national television - even after truth, and shame, rendered its mendaciousness, manifest. He continues to do so to this day. Not fired. Cheney's aide, Lewis Libby, came closest of all to suffering genuine consequences. Convicted of covering up Mr. Cheney's role in sliming critics of the war, his consequences nullified at the last minute. When the president commuted his prison sentence -ensuring that no one in his circle, least of all him - paid any price for selling us the lie of Iraq; for failing to punish the bombing of the U-S-S Cole; for neglecting the warnings pre-9/11;. for turning back at Tora Bora; for ultimately ensuring that while the rest of the world suffers painful, deadly consequences for his actions, only he does not. Only he and one other. Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of 9/11, his reach, and recruiting, all benefiting from Mr. Bush's war, his group's strength today at a six-year high. His Afghan allies, the Taliban, as NBC reported tonight, also resurgent, planning the death of Americans, just 25 miles from Kabul. All while bin Laden himself operates freely, unmolested, with his own media operation, thanks to a regional Pakistani truce endorsed by Mr. Bush in a region where Mr. Bush will not go - cannot go even if he chose to. Because he has spent so much American blood and treasure, in the desert of a nation that had neither means nor motive to threaten us, but that tempted Mr. Bush and those around him who wished to transform the Middle East, so much so that he forswore the vow he made, standing here, literally atop New York's dead… that their killers would hear us soon. Six years later, we still hear them, because now, finally, Iraq and 9/11 really are connected - by him. And we suffer the consequences." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Bill D Date: 16 Sep 07 - 10:16 PM I saw that...and hearing Olbermann read it aloud is compelling stuff. There are VERY few guys anywhere with a better pulpit who can make the needed points as well as Keith Olbermann. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Bobert Date: 17 Sep 07 - 07:42 AM The sad thing part now is that even as it has become incresingly obvious to almost any thinking person that there were no real factual reasons for attacking Iraq (notice I used the term "thinking person") that we now are getting more of the same cherry-picked intellegence on the security situation in Iraq... Plus a dose of the Swift Bioat liars commercials, to boot... But the scarey thing is that 33% who still believe the first round of lies... Seems that is about the same number of folks that regharless of how bad things are still support Bush... I reckon this number is an accurate barometer of the number of people who never were taught to, ahhhhhh, think... That's a lot of people... Ahhhhhhh, make that epsilons... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Donuel Date: 17 Sep 07 - 09:04 AM What ever happened to earning respect. Why is someone now a hero for accepting cash acess and priviledge for lieing for their boss? I don't know General Petraeus. Why he should be an untouchable American hero beyond reproach is the same "SHUT UP" anti liberty anti democracy credo that labled people disloyal Americans for "Bashing" Bush. General, if its too hot in kitchen, if having to answer to Congress and the American people is too much to bear, Get Out. Since no one believes Bush now his mouthpiece Petraeus is supposed to be untouchable? Tough. You took the job. If you want to earn respect, do something truthful and deserving of heroic respect. You are not a Hero because the Bush administration says you are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Sep 07 - 05:15 PM . . . What She Ducked After Petraeus Is Slimed, Spineless Silence By Richard Cohen Tuesday, September 18, 2007; Page A19 If there is a phrase more closely associated with both Hillary and Bill Clinton than "the politics of personal destruction," it does not come to mind. All the others -- "It's the economy, stupid," for instance -- are linked to one or the other, but "the politics of personal destruction" is a phrase both Clintons have used repeatedly -- so much so, it seems, that for Hillary it has lost all meaning. When, for instance, Gen. David Petraeus was slimed as "General Betray Us," Hillary Clinton looked the other way. This was the politics of personal expediency. The swipe at Petraeus was contained in a full-page ad the antiwar group MoveOn.org placed in the New York Times last week. It charged that Petraeus was "cooking the books" about conditions in Iraq and cited statements of his that have turned out to be either (1) not true, (2) no longer true, (3) possibly not true or (4) like everything else in Iraq, impossible to tell. Whatever the case, using "betray" -- a word associated with treason -- recalls the ugly McCarthy era, when for too many Republicans dissent corresponded with disloyalty. MoveOn.org and the late senator from Wisconsin share a certain fondness for the low blow. Almost instantly, though, it got pretty hard to find a Democratic presidential candidate willing to dispute MoveOn.org. To his credit, Joe Biden did. "I don't buy into that," he said. "This is an honorable guy. He's telling the truth." But lonesome Joe, whose virtues have yet to come to the attention of the vast and apathetic electorate, was seconded only by Joe Lieberman, not a presidential candidate, and John Kerry, a man whose tomorrow is yesterday. When Clinton was asked about the ad, she avoided answering. It may seem unfair to single out Clinton in this matter when the bunker in which she took shelter was crowded with her fellow quivering candidates. But Clinton is the front-runner, quite possibly the next president of the United States, so it is reasonable to focus on her and wonder if, as some allege, she does indeed have a spine. In this instance, it was nowhere to be found. It is an odd standard Clinton has when it comes to smears. When the entertainment mogul David Geffen, once a Clinton supporter, called both Bill and Hillary liars, Hillary not only decried the remark as a particularly vivid example of the "politics of personal destruction," but she also demanded that Barack Obama do the same -- and return a $2,300 donation from Geffen. Yet when Clinton herself was asked to repudiate the abuse of Petraeus, she either saw no reason to do so or, much more likely, was afraid to alienate an important constituency, the 3.3 million members of MoveOn.org, who stand symbolically at the frontiers of New Hampshire and Iowa. She would, it seems, rather be president than be right. Yesterday, Clinton announced her health-care plan. Good for her. But you never had any doubt, did you, that she was going to have one -- and a plan for everything else. The issue with Hillary Clinton is not whether she's smart or experienced but whether she has -- how do we say this? -- the character to be president. Behind her, after all, trails the lingering vapor of all those gates: Travel, File, Whitewater and other scandals to which she was a party only through marriage. In a hatless society, she is always wearing a question mark. Certain Republicans, particularly Rudy Giuliani, have attempted to exploit the MoveOn.org ad for their own political purposes, even wondering whether the Times violated election law by selling the page at a (standard) discount. This is silly. But it is not silly to wonder -- yet again -- about what makes Hillary run. The MoveOn.org ad was the moment for Clinton to rise above hackdom. It was a moment for her to insist that the business of politics, not to mention governing, is made even uglier and more difficult when people who merely differ with one another resort to insult. It was a moment for her to say that an Army general, under orders and attempting to fulfill a mission, should not be so casually trashed -- especially since she herself has been on the other side of the Iraq war issue and said things she must now regret. And it was a moment for her to trot out her favorite phrase and use it, not in her own defense for once but in defense of someone else. That moment is gone -- maybe because for Hillary Clinton it never arrived in the first place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 19 Sep 07 - 09:39 AM I think the MoveOn ad was overheated, myself, and a wasted opportunity because it resorted to ad hominem slur tactics. I've seen others do that, notably here on Mudcat for time to time. It never brings about any good result. That said, it is up to examination whether Petraeus' dreams of a presidential future or his loyalty to the present Administration did or did not slant his analysis of their efforts in IRaq. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Donuel Date: 20 Sep 07 - 08:51 AM Remember in the 2004 campaign when the band aids were put over purple heart medals? Cheney wore one of those as well as many of the delegates at the convention. They stood for Kerry's war record in Viet Nam as advertised by Swift Boat Veterans for truth. Well if you don't remember, it happened. People are being (Dan) rather selective when it comes to pointing fingers of derision at men who wear the uniform. I see no reason to automatically bestow respect and hero worship on Petraeus. I will remind everyone that respect is earned and not something that is bestowed by a Republican war profiteer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 23 Sep 07 - 03:59 PM ase Dismissed? The secret lobbying campaign your phone company doesn't want you to know about By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball Newsweek Updated: 4:00 a.m. PT Sept 20, 2007 Sept. 20, 2007 - The nation's biggest telecommunications companies, working closely with the White House, have mounted a secretive lobbying campaign to get Congress to quickly approve a measure wiping out all private lawsuits against them for assisting the U.S. intelligence community's warrantless surveillance programs. The campaign—which involves some of Washington's most prominent lobbying and law firms—has taken on new urgency in recent weeks because of fears that a U.S. appellate court in San Francisco is poised to rule that the lawsuits should be allowed to proceed. If that happens, the telecom companies say, they may be forced to terminate their cooperation with the U.S. intelligence community—or risk potentially crippling damage awards for allegedly turning over personal information about their customers to the government without a judicial warrant. "It's not an exaggeration to say the U.S. intelligence community is in a near-panic about this," said one communications industry lawyer familiar with the debate who asked not to be publicly identified because of the sensitivity surrounding the issue. But critics say the language proposed by the White House—drafted in close cooperation with the industry officials—is so extraordinarily broad that it would provide retroactive immunity for all past telecom actions related to the surveillance program. Its practical effect, they argue, would be to shut down any independent judicial or state inquires into how the companies have assisted the government in eavesdropping on the telephone calls and e-mails of U.S. residents in the aftermath of the September 11 terror attacks. "It's clear the goal is to kill our case," said Cindy Cohn, legal director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a San Francisco-based privacy group that filed the main lawsuit against the telecoms after The New York Times first disclosed, in December 2005, that President Bush had approved a secret program to monitor the phone conversations of U.S. residents without first seeking judicial warrants. The White House subsequently confirmed that it had authorized the National Security Agency to conduct what it called a "terrorist surveillance program" aimed at communications between suspected terrorists overseas and individuals inside the United States. But the administration has also intervened, unsuccessfully so far, to try to block the lawsuit from proceeding and has consistently refused to discuss any details about the extent of the program—rebuffing repeated congressional requests for key legal memos about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: katlaughing Date: 23 Sep 07 - 07:45 PM Remember this? * If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us. * George H.W. Bush to journalist Sarah McClendon, December 1992, in response to the question, What will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Sep 07 - 08:27 PM Said of Hillary in BB's article: "She would, it seems, rather be president than be right." I have never yet seen ANY presidential candidate whom you could not have said that about at some point! ;-) Why feign outrage and surprise over something they are all guilty of? It goes with the job. The most important thing about a Presidential campaign is not to be "right" or to tell the truth...it is to win. To win you merely need to creat the impression that you are right, and that you are telling the truth. It's salesmanship. If you don't know that, BB, maybe you still believe in Santa Claus too? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 23 Sep 07 - 09:37 PM A brief summation of the accurate analysis of what would happen in Iraq if Bush's Idiot Team went ahead with their plans is covered on this Washington Post article. The CIA has a long history of bad intelligence. But on these projections they were spot on and were roundly ignored. I guess a pre-requisite for flaming stupidity is a commitment to bland ignoral of truth. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Banjiman Date: 24 Sep 07 - 11:55 AM Daddy's Real Proud of Me! 2nd song down! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,Holden deMayo Date: 24 Sep 07 - 05:46 PM I'm so fed up with the plethora of "choices" facing me in the next election, I had a bumper sticker made that says, VOTE NO FOR PRESIDENT! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 26 Sep 07 - 09:00 PM Three Cheers! PORTLAND, Ore. Sep 26, 2007 (AP) Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday. U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken ruled that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, as amended by the Patriot Act, "now permits the executive branch of government to conduct surveillance and searches of American citizens without satisfying the probable cause requirements of the Fourth Amendment." Portland attorney Brandon Mayfield sought the ruling in a lawsuit against the federal government after he was mistakenly linked by the FBI to the Madrid train bombings that killed 191 people in 2004. The federal government apologized and settled part of the lawsuit for $2 million after admitting a fingerprint was misread. But as part of the settlement, Mayfield retained the right to challenge parts of the Patriot Act, which greatly expanded the authority of law enforcers to investigate suspected acts of terrorism. Mayfield claimed that secret searches of his house and office under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act violated the Fourth Amendment's guarantee against unreasonable search and seizure. Aiken agreed with Mayfield, repeatedly criticizing the government. "For over 200 years, this Nation has adhered to the rule of law with unparalleled success. A shift to a Nation based on extra-constitutional authority is prohibited, as well as ill-advised," she wrote. By asking her to dismiss Mayfield's lawsuit, the judge said, the U.S. attorney general's office was "asking this court to, in essence, amend the Bill of Rights, by giving it an interpretation that would deprive it of any real meaning. This court declines to do so." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 27 Sep 07 - 09:54 AM "Reform feels good, take it from me. To correct course and avoid the reef and find clear sailing is the great tonic of life. A man grows a beard for the pleasure of cutting it off. And now I have the pleasure of boycotting bottled water for tap. There is much we do not understand - power cords in the briefcase, for example: you set them in neatly and a few hours later they are completely entangled with each other, and who knows why? - but the stupidity of buying bottled water in America is easily grasped by even the dullest. And now, if liberals can cut consumption of foreign water, then maybe conservatives can start to face up to the disaster they visited on this country with the election of the Current Occupant. None of the current Republican hopefuls can quite bring himself to do this. Face it. When you push an incompetent frat boy on the country, what you get is what has happened. Republicans prize loyalty above all things, so the Republican Congress carried the White House water for years, not bothering with any sort of oversight, but loyalty to the Occupant now is like marriage to a drunk, a very iffy proposition. If they can't get a grasp on this, the Republicans can't win in 2008." Garrison Keillor, host of the public radio program "A Prairie Home Companion." This article was distributed by Tribune Media Services |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 01 Oct 07 - 10:18 AM Today's NY Times reports: "BAGHDAD (AP) -- Deaths among American forces and Iraqi civilian deaths fell dramatically last month to their lowest levels in more than a year, according to figures compiled by the U.S. military, the Iraqi government and The Associated Press. The decline signaled a U.S. success in bringing down violence in Baghdad and surrounding regions since Washington completed its infusion of 30,000 more troops on June 15. A total of 64 American forces died in September -- the lowest monthly toll since July 2006. The decline in Iraqi civilian deaths was even more dramatic, falling from 1,975 in August to 922 last month, a decline of 53.3 percent. The breakdown in September was 844 civilians and 78 police and Iraqi soldiers, according to Iraq's ministries of Health, Interior and Defense. In August, AP figures showed 1,809 civilians and 155 police and Iraqi soldiers were killed in sectarian violence. The civilian death toll has not been so low since June 2006, when 847 Iraqis died. ''There is no silver bullet or one thing that equates as a reason to the drop in Iraqi and Coalition casualties and deaths,'' said Col. Steven Boylan, spokesman for U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus. But he credited increased U.S. troop strength, saying that has allowed American forces to step up operations against al-Qaida in Iraq." It's really nice that the death toll among Iraqi civilians is down to less than 2000 per month.At the cost of only 65 American lives per month! Surely, in the grim economics of warfighting, this is a major bargain! These are figures American can live with, don't you think? Pardon my sarcasm. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 01 Oct 07 - 10:56 AM The Politics of Confidence By ROGER COHEN Published: October 1, 2007 The unpopularity of George W. Bush has led many to believe global America-hating will ebb once he leaves office on Jan. 20, 2009. That's a dangerous assumption. It's dangerous because the extent of American power will continue to invite resentment whoever is in the White House, and because America's perception of the terrorist threat will still differ from that of its Asian and European allies. Asians are focused on growth, Europeans on integration: different priorities cause friction. The Iraq-linked damage to U.S. credibility is too severe to be quickly undone. The net loss of Western influence over the world means the ability of Bush's successor to shape events is diminished. Still, the next U.S. leader will enjoy a honeymoon. To prolong it, several steps are essential. The most critical is a switch from the politics of anxiety to the politics of confidence. Bush and Cheney never emerged from the 9/11 bunker. Their attack-dog snarl alienated a globe asked to step in line or step aside. The expectation of fealty must give way to the entertainment of dissent. The next leader has to be curious. Presidential body language needs to say "I'm one of you." Facebook engagement must supplant fearful estrangement. I wondered today what it would be like if we bit the bullet, in December 2008, pulled the armed forces out of Iraq, reconfigured our counter-terrorism operations to high-speed small operations backed with excellent intel, and diverted the billions that Bush has cost us by making a global war out of it since 9-11 into an all-out assault on our own environmental footprint, energy independence of the nation being a first priority. If we refused to be drawn into wasting out national substance by what are essentially criminal acts (even big dramatic ones like 9-11), and instead focused on making what is great even better, what is shoody into what is good about our infrastructure, how much better off would we be after five years, or ten? And by 2020, when the fruits of our efforts had begun to roll out into widespread application? Using hatefulness, greed, cronyism and fear-mongering as a substitute for vision, positive planning, actions drawn from principle, and a will to make things better is a great confession on the part of Bush-types the country wide -- a confession of moral rot, a failure to imagine, and a squirming adhesion to self-importance over all things. A A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Ebbie Date: 01 Oct 07 - 02:15 PM I have not heard any comment on the fact that it was not Moveon.org that first used the phrase 'General Betray Us'. Frank Rich, columnist on The New York Times, used it in July. It might have been the caption- done by the caption writer - rather than in the body of the column. I don't remember. But it was most definitely there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 06 Oct 07 - 11:52 PM Conservatives Are Such Jokers By PAUL KRUGMAN Published: October 5, 2007 NY Times "...And on the day of the veto, Mr. Bush dismissed the whole issue of uninsured children as a media myth. Referring to Medicaid spending — which fails to reach many children — he declared that "when they say, well, poor children aren't being covered in America, if that's what you're hearing on your TV screens, I'm telling you there's $35.5 billion worth of reasons not to believe that." It's not just the poor who find their travails belittled and mocked. The sick receive the same treatment. Before the last election, the actor Michael J. Fox, who suffers from Parkinson's and has become an advocate for stem cell research that might lead to a cure, made an ad in support of Claire McCaskill, the Democratic candidate for Senator in Missouri. It was an effective ad, in part because Mr. Fox's affliction was obvious. And Rush Limbaugh — displaying the same style he exhibited in his recent claim that members of the military who oppose the Iraq war are "phony soldiers" and his later comparison of a wounded vet who criticized him for that remark to a suicide bomber — immediately accused Mr. Fox of faking it. "In this commercial, he is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He is moving all around and shaking. And it's purely an act." Heh-heh-heh. Of course, minimizing and mocking the suffering of others is a natural strategy for political figures who advocate lower taxes on the rich and less help for the poor and unlucky. But I believe that the lack of empathy shown by Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Kristol, and, yes, Mr. Bush is genuine, not feigned. Mark Crispin Miller, the author of "The Bush Dyslexicon," once made a striking observation: all of the famous Bush malapropisms — "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family," and so on — have involved occasions when Mr. Bush was trying to sound caring and compassionate. By contrast, Mr. Bush is articulate and even grammatical when he talks about punishing people; that's when he's speaking from the heart. The only animation Mr. Bush showed during the flooding of New Orleans was when he declared "zero tolerance of people breaking the law," even those breaking into abandoned stores in search of the food and water they weren't getting from his administration. What's happening, presumably, is that modern movement conservatism attracts a certain personality type. If you identify with the downtrodden, even a little, you don't belong. If you think ridicule is an appropriate response to other peoples' woes, you fit right in. And Republican disillusionment with Mr. Bush does not appear to signal any change in that regard. On the contrary, the leading candidates for the Republican nomination have gone out of their way to condemn "socialism," which is G.O.P.-speak for any attempt to help the less fortunate. So once again, if you're poor or you're sick or you don't have health insurance, remember this: these people think your problems are funny." Krugman, columnist, NY Times, 10-5-07 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,pops Date: 07 Oct 07 - 12:04 AM Bush is a mother fucking asshole. He should have sent his goons down to NO and forcibly evacuated everybody instead of thinking the local authorities would do it. How stupid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 07 Oct 07 - 10:58 AM I have often argued that one of the major blind spots in estimating the effort of the invasion of Iraq by Bush and Co. was the shattering of American lives in those exposed to brutality and violence, after they returned -- if they did. The NY Times has an interesting editorial today, with some preliminary sizing up of this problem. An excerpt: "Slogging on the Home Front Published: October 6, 2007 It's more painfully clear that wounded soldiers who seek disability care and benefits face bureaucratic chaos worthy of an infernal ring from Dante. Seven months after news accounts detailed the appalling neglect of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, Congressional investigators have found promised repairs already lagging at the Pentagon and Department of Veterans Affairs. It still takes almost half a year for the average veteran's claim for disability benefits to be decided in a tortuous process that can involve four separate hearings. The promised pilot program to make a single efficient system out of dueling military and veterans bureaucracies — the knotty heart of a mammoth backlog running into hundreds of thousand of cases — should have begun last month. Now the promise is slipping into next year. At the same time, the Army's plan for creating special "warrior transition units" to deliver more personalized care at 32 national centers is bedeviled by staff shortages that mean close to half of the eligible troops are unable to get the service...." In another strong op-ed piece, Mario Cumo urges Congress to reestablish the Consitutional authority that requires Congress be the sole voice in declaring a war. I think it is terribly important that we not allow the executive branch to abrogate that critical judgement. Cuomo's ideas on the matter are found here. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 07 Oct 07 - 11:04 AM More on the blandishments of Bush on the SCHIP veto: "Misleading Spin on Children's Health Save Share Published: October 5, 2007 Trying to justify his ideologically driven veto of a bill to expand the State Children's Health Insurance Program, President Bush and his staff have fired a barrage of misinformation about this valuable program. Before the House votes on whether to override the veto, all members — especially those from Mr. Bush's party who say they are concerned about millions of uninsured children — must look behind the rhetoric. Mr. Bush stretched the truth considerably when he told an audience in Lancaster, Pa., that he has long been a strong supporter of the S-chip program. "I supported it as governor, and I support it as president of the United States," he said. As governor of Texas, Mr. Bush fought — unsuccessfully — to restrict the state's program to children with family incomes up to 150 percent of the poverty level, well below the 200 percent allowed by federal law. As president, he is again trying to shrink the program for the entire country. His proposed five-year budget does not provide enough to continue enrollments at current levels, let alone cover millions of the uninsured."... It looks like his propensity for feeding the American public horse--manure is unchecked; he has not reflected on his need for penance or sought to change his lying ways. He is a reprobate, and he is incorrigible. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 07 Oct 07 - 11:12 AM "With many Iraqis still seething after Blackwater guards killed as many as 17 people two weeks ago, it is evident that Blackwater and other security contractors are undermining the military's efforts to win over Iraqis. Now an investigation by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform has underscored the lavish extent of Blackwater's payments and its relationship to the Bush administration. The committee, which held hearings on the use of security contractors in Iraq yesterday, should investigate these links further. Former Bush administration officials are peppered throughout Blackwater's highest executive positions. Erik Prince, the former Navy Seal who founded the company, was a White House intern under President George H. W. Bush and has been a Republican financier since, with more than $225,000 in political contributions. Mr. Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos, is a former chairwoman of the Michigan Republican Party and a "pioneer" who raised $100,000 for the Bush-Cheney ticket in 2004. Her husband, the former Amway chief executive Richard DeVos Jr., was the Republican nominee for governor of Michigan in 2006. Mr. Prince denied yesterday that his connections had anything to do with it, but he certainly has done well under the Bush administration. Federal contracts account for about 90 percent of the revenue of Prince Group holdings, of which Blackwater is a subsidiary. Since 2001, when it made less than $1 million in federal contracts, Blackwater has received more than $1 billion in such contracts — including at least one with the State Department for hundreds of millions of dollars that was awarded without open, competitive bidding." Hmmmm...lack of moral fiber at the top levels of American leadership? Political prostitution in high places? Shocking... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 07 Oct 07 - 11:21 AM The Washington Post contemplates whether or not the Bush administration does torture people in fact, despite lip-service to the contrary: "The Bush administration's secret legal decisions defy Congress and the courts. Sunday, October 7, 2007; Page B06 PRESIDENT BUSH said Friday, as he has many times before, that "this government does not torture people." But presidential declarations can't change the facts. The record shows that Mr. Bush and a compliant Justice Department have repeatedly authorized the CIA to use interrogation methods that the rest of the world -- and every U.S. administration before this one -- have regarded as torture: techniques such as simulated drowning, induced hypothermia, sleep deprivation and prolonged standing. The New York Times reported last week that the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel issued two classified memos in 2005 to justify techniques that the Central Intelligence Agency had used when interrogating terrorism suspects abroad -- and to undercut a law passed by Congress that outlawed "cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment." Those opinions form part of a continuing pattern, beginning in 2002 and extending until this past summer, of secret -- and highly questionable -- legal judgments by Bush-appointed lawyers intended to circumvent U.S. law, treaty commitments, legislation passed by Congress and Supreme Court decisions -- all of which should have prevented the abuse of prisoners. The administration has essentially been operating its own clandestine legal system, unaccountable to Congress or the courts. The resulting violations of basic human rights have cost the country incalculable prestige abroad and put its own citizens in danger of being subjected to similarly harsh treatment. That is particularly true since July, when Mr. Bush signed an executive order that allowed the CIA to resume using "enhanced interrogation techniques" on prisoners after a hiatus of more than 18 months. For nearly six years, Congress has failed to take effective action against these abuses. Predictably, lawmakers are now calling for the administration to release the two Justice Department memos from 2005. Fair enough, but the relevance of those documents has been diminished by last year's passage of the Military Commissions Act, which contained new, if inadequate, strictures on prisoner treatment. Mr. Bush's executive order of July was tailored to that law; while some techniques, such as simulated drowning, have been dropped, others are again in use...." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 08 Oct 07 - 09:53 AM Paul Krugman discusses the notion that the shocking deficits in responsibility and competence demonstrated by the Bush administration are actually perfectly consistent with the conservative legacy and tradition. Go figger... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 08 Oct 07 - 01:34 PM New Heart Device Allows Cheney To Experience LoveOctober 3, 2007 | Issue 43•40(NOTE: The following is a humorous, fictional article. Mister Cheney has had no such experience.) WASHINGTON, DC—Recovering from minor heart surgery Sunday, Vice President Dick Cheney stunned both the medical and political establishments when he mysteriously began to experience love for the first time in his life, sources reported Tuesday. A replaced defibrillator is having unexpected effects on the vice president, as this photo taken Monday reveals. It is believed to have been the first recorded incident of Cheney exhibiting compassion for his fellow man. Calling the vice president's sudden ability to love "mystifying" but a possible medical breakthrough that could aid other Americans who suffer from acute mulishness and generalized misanthropy, Dr. Jonathan Samuel Reiner, Cheney's cardiologist, said in a press conference at George Washington University Hospital that the vice president exhibited a series of unexpected side effects almost immediately after regaining consciousness following his surgery. ... (From the Onion) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 09 Oct 07 - 12:38 PM On Torture and American Values Published: October 7, 2007 Once upon a time, it was the United States that urged all nations to obey the letter and the spirit of international treaties and protect human rights and liberties. American leaders denounced secret prisons where people were held without charges, tortured and killed. And the people in much of the world, if not their governments, respected the United States for its values. The Bush administration has dishonored that history and squandered that respect. As an article on this newspaper's front page last week laid out in disturbing detail, President Bush and his aides have not only condoned torture and abuse at secret prisons, but they have conducted a systematic campaign to mislead Congress, the American people and the world about those policies. After the attacks of 9/11, Mr. Bush authorized the creation of extralegal detention camps where Central Intelligence Agency operatives were told to extract information from prisoners who were captured and held in secret. Some of their methods — simulated drownings, extreme ranges of heat and cold, prolonged stress positions and isolation — had been classified as torture for decades by civilized nations. The administration clearly knew this; the C.I.A. modeled its techniques on the dungeons of Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Soviet Union. The White House could never acknowledge that. So its lawyers concocted documents that redefined "torture" to neatly exclude the things American jailers were doing and hid the papers from Congress and the American people. Under Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Mr. Bush's loyal enabler, the Justice Department even declared that those acts did not violate the lower standard of "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment." That allowed the White House to claim that it did not condone torture, and to stampede Congress into passing laws that shielded the interrogators who abused prisoners, and the men who ordered them to do it, from any kind of legal accountability. Mr. Bush and his aides were still clinging to their rationalizations at the end of last week. The president declared that Americans do not torture prisoners and that Congress had been fully briefed on his detention policies. Neither statement was true — at least in what the White House once scorned as the "reality-based community" — and Senator John Rockefeller, chairman of the Intelligence Committee, was right to be furious. He demanded all of the "opinions of the Justice Department analyzing the legality" of detention and interrogation policies. Lawmakers, who for too long have been bullied and intimidated by the White House, should rewrite the Detainee Treatment Act and the Military Commissions Act to conform with actual American laws and values. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Donuel Date: 10 Oct 07 - 10:21 AM Defibulators do not keep people from fibbing, Amos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 11 Oct 07 - 12:50 PM An interesting column on the NY Times revelation about torture, and a link to a mighty fine explanation of the media's reaction to it by Steven Colbert, no less, can be found on this page of a Blog called Brad. Recommended. Bush's so-called Justice Department has done more to corrode and ruin the American ideal of justice than the Mississippi legal system in the 1930s. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 12 Oct 07 - 08:58 AM I think this little excerpt from a longer editorial in the NYT is important. "Two years ago, the Congressional Budget Office published an analysis of the effect of a tax cut on economic growth and tax revenues. It found that even under the rosiest of assumptions, cutting taxes led, inevitably, to lower revenues and a bigger deficit. But perhaps those assumptions were not rosy enough for the Republican presidential candidates." The rest of the editorial is about the rose-colored unreality in which Giuliani and similar Repub hopefuls seem to be indulging. It can be found here. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 12 Oct 07 - 09:20 AM When the Democrats selected Graeme Frost, a 12 year old, to represent the protest against Bushian wrongheadedness on the SChip veto, the Republicans went into high gear to slime the boy, his family, and those they represent. In Sliming Graeme Frost, Paul Krugman lays these tactics plainly out on the table. He concludes, "All in all, the Graeme Frost case is a perfect illustration of the modern right-wing political machine at work, and in particular its routine reliance on character assassination in place of honest debate. If service members oppose a Republican war, they're "phony soldiers"; if Michael J. Fox opposes Bush policy on stem cells, he's faking his Parkinson's symptoms; if an injured 12-year-old child makes the case for a government health insurance program, he's a fraud. Meanwhile, leading conservative politicians, far from trying to distance themselves from these smears, rush to embrace them. And some people in the news media are still willing to be used as patsies. Politics aside, the Graeme Frost case demonstrates the true depth of the health care crisis: every other advanced country has universal health insurance, but in America, insurance is now out of reach for many hard-working families, even if they have incomes some might call middle-class. And there's one more point that should not be forgotten: ultimately, this isn't about the Frost parents. It's about Graeme Frost and his sister. I don't know about you, but I think American children who need medical care should get it, period. Even if you think adults have made bad choices — a baseless smear in the case of the Frosts, but put that on one side — only a truly vicious political movement would respond by punishing their injured children. " While distortive rhetoric is not the sole province of the Republicans, it is evident that they are the major hatemongers in their preferred style, the inventors of "swift boating" which relies on chest beating and hollering false pushbutton assertions designed to make stimulus-response mechanos out of thinking citizens. Generating groundless nasty rumors seems to be a Rovian sphere of expertise. There was a time in the nation's past when an underlying respect for truth was used as a basis for debate. Or at least, I believed there was such a time. If not, now would be a good time to start. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 14 Oct 07 - 09:54 AM In an editorial today, the NY Times looks over the "truthiness" of Bush's claims on reasons for electronic eavesdropping: "As Democratic lawmakers try to repair a deeply flawed bill on electronic eavesdropping, the White House is pumping out the same fog of fear and disinformation it used to push the bill through Congress this summer. President Bush has been telling Americans that any change would deny the government critical information, make it easier for terrorists to infiltrate, expose state secrets, and make it harder "to save American lives." There is no truth to any of those claims. No matter how often Mr. Bush says otherwise, there is also no disagreement from the Democrats about the need to provide adequate tools to fight terrorists. The debate is over whether this should be done constitutionally, or at the whim of the president. The 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, requires a warrant to intercept international communications involving anyone in the United States. A secret court has granted these warrants quickly nearly every time it has been asked. After 9/11, the Patriot Act made it even easier to conduct surveillance, especially in hot pursuit of terrorists. But that was not good enough for the Bush team, which was determined to use the nation's tragedy to grab ever more power for its vision of an imperial presidency. Mr. Bush ignored the FISA law and ordered the National Security Agency to intercept phone calls and e-mail between people abroad and people in the United States without a warrant, as long as "the target" was not in this country. The president did not announce his decision. He allowed a few lawmakers to be briefed but withheld key documents. The special intelligence court was in the dark until The Times disclosed the spying in December 2005. Mr. Bush still refused to stop. He claimed that FISA was too limiting for the Internet-speed war against terror. But he never explained those limits and rebuffed lawmakers' offers to legally accommodate his concerns. This year, the administration found an actual problem with FISA: It requires a warrant to eavesdrop on communications between foreigners that go through computers in the United States. It was a problem that did not exist in 1978, and it had an easy fix. But Mr. Bush's lawyers tacked dangerous additions onto a bill being rushed through Congress before the recess. When the smoke cleared, Congress had fixed the real loophole, but also endorsed the idea of spying without court approval. It gave legal cover to more than five years of illegal spying. Fortunately, the law is to expire in February, and some Democratic legislators are trying to fix it. House members have drafted a bill, which is a big improvement but still needs work. The Senate is working on its bill, and we hope it will show the courage this time to restore the rule of law to American surveillance programs. There are some red lines, starting with the absolute need for court supervision of any surveillance that can involve American citizens or others in the United States. The bill passed in August allowed the administration to inform the FISA court about its methods and then issue blanket demands for data to communications companies without any further court approval or review. The House bill would permit the government to conduct surveillance for 45 days before submitting it to court review and approval. (Mr. Bush is wrong when he says the bill would slow down intelligence gathering.) After that, ideally, the law would require a real warrant. If Congress will not do that, at a minimum it must require spying programs to undergo periodic audits by the court and Congress. The administration wants no reviews. Mr. Bush and his team say they have safeguards to protect civil liberties, meaning surveillance will be reviewed by the attorney general, the director of national intelligence and the inspectors general of the Justice Department and the Central Intelligence Agency. There are two enormous flaws in that. The Constitution is based on the rule of law, not individuals; giving such power to any president would be un-American. And this one long ago showed he cannot be trusted."... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 14 Oct 07 - 11:13 AM "Indeed, Mr. Bush, rather than taking all that unity and using it to rebuild America for the 21st century, took all that unity and used it to push the narrow agenda of his "base." He used all that unity to take a far-right agenda on taxes and social issues that was going nowhere on 9/10 and drive it into a 9/12 world. Never has so much national unity — which could have been used to develop a real energy policy, reverse our coming Social Security deficit, assemble a lasting coalition to deal with Afghanistan and Iraq, maybe even get a national health care program — been used to build so little. That is what historians will note most about Mr. Bush's tenure — the sheer wasted opportunity of it all. Yes, Iraq was always going to be hugely difficult, but the potential payoff of erecting a decent, democratizing government in the heart of the Arab world was also enormous. Yet Mr. Bush, in his signature issue, never mobilized the country, never punished incompetence, never made the bad guys "fight all of us," as Bill Maher put it, by at least pushing through a real energy policy to reduce the resources of the very people we were fighting. He thought he could change the world with 50.1 percent of the country, and he couldn't."... From here. Worth the reading. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:24 PM Voters unhappy with Bush and Congress By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent Oct 17, 2007 (ABC News) (Reuters) - Deepening unhappiness with President George W. Bush and the U.S. Congress soured the mood of Americans and sent Bush's approval rating to another record low this month, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday. The Reuters/Zogby Index, which measures the mood of the country, also fell from 98.8 to 96 -- the second consecutive month it has dropped. The number of Americans who believe the country is on the wrong track jumped four points to 66 percent. Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. "There is a real question among Americans now about how relevant this government is to them," pollster John Zogby said. "They tell us they want action on health care, education, the war and immigration, but they don't believe they are going to get it." The dismal assessment of the Republican president and the Democratic-controlled Congress follows another month of inconclusive political battles over a future path in Iraq and the recent Bush veto of an expansion of the program providing insurance for poor children. Hey -- 24 per cent of American voters can't be wrong, can they? I mean, that's such a big number of people! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:30 PM Phone Companies Refuse to Turn Over Spying Info To Congress Jason Mick (Blog) - October 18, 2007 9:00 AM Your friendly phone company may have been listening to your calls. Three top American telephone carriers -- Verizon, AT&T and Qwest -- have set what some believe may be an alarming precedent in refusing to turn over information on their wiretapping and snooping programs to the U.S. Congress. A Congressional panel is investigating whether citizens' rights to privacy and personal freedoms were violated by executive branch mandated snooping programs, which allegedly monitor users' email and phone calls. The phone companies claim they want to release the information, but can't. They say that other branches of the government are preventing them from releasing the information about the Bush administration's spy programs to Congress. AT&T Inc. General Counsel Wayne Watts wrote a letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee stating, "Our company essentially finds itself caught in the middle of an oversight dispute between the Congress and the executive relating to government surveillance activities." Congress had request three specific pieces of information. The first was what information the carriers had turned over to government organizations without warrant. The second question was whether they were compensated for any such occurrences. The third question was whether they had installed any equipment for the express purpose of intercepting user emails or calls. The three major carriers all claimed they were not at liberty to discuss any of these details. All three carriers did submit limited reports to Congress, which did not contain any of the requested information. Representative Ed Markey, D. Massachusetts, leads the telecommunications subcommittee and is among the congressional lawmakers frustrated by the carriers' refusal and the executive branch's secrecy. He voiced his frustration in a public statement. "The water is as murky as ever on this issue, and it's past time for the administration to come clean." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Donuel Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:38 PM If any of you are interested in avoiding World War III... you could support bush's WW 2 1/2. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:46 PM From the Washington Post: Portents of A Nuclear Al-Qaeda By David Ignatius Thursday, October 18, 2007; Page A25 Rolf Mowatt-Larssen is paid to think about the unthinkable. As the Energy Department's director of intelligence, he's responsible for gathering information about the threat that a terrorist group will attack America with a nuclear weapon. With his shock of white hair and piercing eyes, Mowatt-Larssen looks like a man who has seen a ghost. And when you listen to a version of the briefing he has been giving recently to President Bush and other top officials, you begin to understand why. He is convinced that al-Qaeda is trying to acquire a nuclear bomb that will leave the ultimate terrorist signature -- a mushroom cloud. We've all had enough fear-mongering to last a lifetime. Indeed, we have become so frightened of terrorism since Sept. 11, 2001, that we have begun doing the terrorists' job for them by undermining the legal framework of our democracy. And truly, I wish I could dismiss Mowatt-Larssen's analysis as the work of an overwrought former CIA officer with too many years in the trenches. But it's worth listening to his warnings -- not because they induce more numbing paralysis but because they might stir sensible people to take actions that could detect and stop an attack. That's why his boss, Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman, is encouraging him to speak out. Mowatt-Larssen doesn't want to anguish later that he didn't sound the alarm in time. Mowatt-Larssen has been gathering this evidence since a few weeks after Sept. 11, when then-CIA Director George Tenet asked him to create a new branch on weapons of mass destruction in the agency's counterterrorism center. He helped Tenet prepare the chapter on al-Qaeda's nuclear efforts that appears in Tenet's memoir, " At the Center of the Storm." Now that the uproar over Tenet's mistaken "slam dunk" assessment of the Iraqi threat has died down, it's worth rereading this account. It provides a chilling, public record of al-Qaeda's nuclear ambitions. Mowatt-Larssen argues that for nearly a decade before Sept. 11, al-Qaeda was seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction. As early as 1993, Osama bin Laden offered $1.5 million to buy uranium for a nuclear device, according to testimony presented in federal court in February 2001. When the al-Qaeda leader was asked in 1998 if he had nuclear or chemical weapons, he responded: "Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank God for enabling me to do so." Even as al-Qaeda was preparing to fly its airplane bombs into buildings, the group was also trying to acquire nuclear and biological capabilities. In August 2001, bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, met around a campfire with Pakistani scientists from a group called Umma Tameer-E-Nau to discuss how al-Qaeda could build a nuclear device. Al-Qaeda also had an aggressive anthrax program that was discovered in December 2001 after bin Laden was driven from his haven in Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda proclaimed a religious rationale to justify the WMD attacks it was planning. In June 2002, a Kuwaiti-born cleric named Suleiman Abu Ghaith posted a statement on the Internet saying that "al-Qaeda has the right to kill 4 million Americans" in retaliation for U.S. attacks against Muslims. And in May 2003, at the same time Saudi operatives of al-Qaeda were trying to buy three Russian nuclear bombs, a cleric named Nasir al-Fahd issued a fatwa titled "A Treatise on the Legal Status of Using Weapons of Mass Destruction Against Infidels." Interrogations of al-Qaeda operatives confirmed that the planning was serious. Al-Qaeda didn't yet have the materials for a WMD attack, but it wanted them. Most chilling of all was Zawahiri's decision in March 2003 to cancel a cyanide attack in the New York subway system. He told the plotters to stand down because "we have something better in mind." What did that mean? More than four years later, we still don't know. After 2004, the WMD trail went cold, according to Mowatt-Larssen. Many intelligence analysts have concluded that al-Qaeda doesn't have nuclear capability today. Mowatt-Larssen argues that a more honest answer is: We don't know. So what to do about this spectral danger? The first requirement, says Mowatt-Larssen, is to try to visualize it. What would it take for al-Qaeda to build a bomb? How would it assemble the pieces? How would the United States and its allies deploy their intelligence assets so that they could detect a plot before it was carried out? How would we reinvent intelligence itself to avert this ultimate catastrophe? A terrorist nuclear attack, as Tenet wrote in his book, would change history. If we can see how this story might end, perhaps we can deflect the arrow before it hits its target. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 23 Oct 07 - 05:37 PM President Bush is pressing the Senate to help him cover up his illegal wiretapping, and the Senate may well go along with his plan if they don't hear from you right away. 1 Here's what's going on: For years the Bush administration has been illegally spying on Americans' phone calls and emails with the willing assistance of big telecom companies like Verizon and AT&T. Lawsuits moving forward against these companies may be the only way we ever find out how far the Bush administration went in breaking the law.2 So the White House is putting enormous pressure on Congress to give the phone companies retroactive immunity for all the laws they broke spying on innocent Americans. And some key Democrats are ready to go along! Can you help us reach 250,000 signatures on this petition demanding that Congress reject the president's cover-up? The petition text is in the blue box on the right. Clicking the link below will add your name. http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/o.pl?id=11473-7901518-_dxKVH&t=3 It seems hard to believe, but it's true. Just months after Congress capitulated to President Bush and politics of fear, they seem ready to do it again. This happens again and again because politicians are afraid of being seen as weak on security—and because they buy the conventional wisdom that voters don't really care about constitutional freedoms. But the truth is that voters understand something that Washington doesn't: There is no trade-off between fundamental liberties and security. In fact, a recent poll by our friends at the ACLU found that an overwhelming majority of Americans want Congress to exercise its oversight authority by forcing the Bush administration to get warrants before wiretapping Americans. Further, Americans strongly oppose giving lawbreaking phone companies amnesty for their actions.3 The New York Times put it perfectly this Saturday: "The question really is whether Congress should toss out chunks of the Constitution because Mr. Bush finds them inconvenient and some Democrats are afraid to look soft on terrorism... This provision is not primarily about protecting patriotic businessmen, as Mr. Bush claims. It's about ensuring that Mr. Bush and his aides never have to go to court to explain how many laws they've broken. It is a collusion between lawmakers and the White House that means that no one is ever held accountable." 4 News reports indicate that Democratic senators agreed to give phone companies retroactive immunity after the Bush administration presented a one-sided case that these companies "acted in good faith."5 That's ridiculous. A judge appointed by President Bush Sr. wrote an opinion finding that "AT&T cannot seriously contend that a reasonable entity in its position could have believed that the alleged domestic dragnet was legal."6 The bottom line is that President Bush is trying to cover up his own lawbreaking with this immunity. We need Congress to stop him. Senator Chris Dodd has courageously vowed to block this bill if the immunity provision is not taken out.7 We need to make sure other members of Congress come out and support his strong stand. If enough of us sign, we can make it plain just how broad the support for preserving the Constitution is. http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/o.pl?id=11473-7901518-_dxKVH&t=4 Thanks for all you do, –Nita, Tanya, Karin, Jennifer, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team Tuesday, October 23rd, 2007 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM >Priests Jailed for Protesting Fort Huachuca Torture Training > By Bill Quigley > t r u t h o u t | Report > > Wednesday 24 October 2007 > > Louis Vitale, 75, a Franciscan priest, and Steve Kelly, 58, a Jesuit >priest, were sentenced to five months each in federal prison for attempting >to deliver a letter opposing the teaching of torture at Fort Huachuca in >Arizona. Both priests were taken directly into jail from the courtroom after >sentencing. > > Fort Huachuca is the headquarters of military intelligence in the US and >the place where military and civilian interrogators are taught how to >extract information from prisoners. The priests attempted to deliver their >letter to Maj. Gen. Barbara Fast, commander of Fort Huachuca. Fast was >previously the head of all military intelligence in Iraq during the >atrocities of Abu Ghraib. > > The priests were arrested while kneeling in prayer halfway up the >driveway to Fort Huachuca in November 2006. Both priests were charged with >trespassing on a military base and resisting orders of an officer to stop. > > In a pre-trial hearing, the priests attempted to introduce evidence of >torture, murder and gross violations of human rights in Afghanistan, at Abu >Ghraib in Iraq and at Guantanamo. The priests offered investigative reports >from the FBI, the US Army, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and >Physicians for Social Responsibility documenting hundreds of incidents of >human rights violations. Despite increasing evidence of the use of torture >by US forces sanctioned by President Bush and others, the federal court in >Tucson refused to allow any evidence of torture, the legality of the >invasion of Iraq, or international law to be a part of the trial. > > Outside the courthouse, before the judge ordered them to prison, the >priests explained their actions: "The real crime here has always been the >teaching of torture at Fort Huachuca and the practice of torture around the >world. We tried to deliver a letter asking that the teaching of torture be >stopped and were arrested. We tried to put the evidence of torture on full >and honest display in the courthouse and were denied. We were prepared to >put on evidence about the widespread use of torture and human rights abuses >committed during interrogations at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in Iraq and >Afghanistan. This evidence was gathered by the military itself and by >governmental and human rights investigations." > > Fr. Vitale, a longtime justice and peace activist in San Francisco and >Nevada, said, "Because the court will not allow the truth of torture to be a >part of our trial, we plead no contest. We are uninterested in a court >hearing limited to who was walking where and how many steps it was to the >gate. History will judge whether silencing the facts of torture is just or >not. Far too many people have died because of our national silence about >torture. Far too many of our young people in the military have been >permanently damaged after following orders to torture and violate the human >rights of other humans." > > Fr. Kelly, who walked to the gates of Guantanamo with the Catholic >Worker group in December of 2005, concluded, "We will keep trying to stop >the teaching and practice of torture whether we are sent to jail or out. We >have done our part for now. Now it is up to every woman and man of >conscience to do their part to stop the injustice of torture." > > The priests were prompted to protest by continuing revelations about the >practice of torture by US military and intelligence officers. The priests >were also deeply concerned after learning of the suicide in Iraq of a young, >devout, female military interrogator, Alyssa Peterson of Arizona, shortly >after arriving in Iraq. Peterson was reported to be horrified by the >mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. > > Investigation also revealed Fort Huachuca was the source of infamous >"torture manuals" distributed to hundreds of Latin American graduates of the >US Army School of Americas at Fort Benning, GA. Demonstrations against the >teaching of torture at Fort Huachuca have been occurring for the past >several years each November and are scheduled again for November 16 and 17 >this year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Donuel Date: 25 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM The OBVIOUS needs to be said from time to time... What the establishment hopes to achieve is an amnesty for the corporation entities that obeyed the call to break the law. After that, a scape goat to hang will be sought to deflect criminal charges away from the unelected policy makers and their political stooges like W. Does anyone here really believe charges will stick to a Bush family member or if a multinational corporation will suffer fines or prison time over "privacy" issues ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 07 - 01:36 PM This is a small excerpt from a very interesting essay on the gradual subornment of people allayed in their suspicions. A They Thought They Were Free The Germans, 1933-45 Excerpt from pages 166-73 of "They Thought They Were Free" First published in 1955 By Milton Mayer But Then It Was Too Late "What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn't make people close to their government to be told that this is a people's government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing. "What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it. "This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Ron Davies Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:53 PM Interesting from a historical perspective. But "sense of identification" and "trust in him"--at this point, with Bush, that don't compute. Not even the people running the Republican party identify with Bush--the search is on for a Republican anti-Bush. Somebody competent, capable of thought--his own thought, not "a higher father". Somebody of integrity. Obvious choice: McCain--but he has sunk his own ship by, ironically enough, by loading it down with Bush's Iraq war. So the Republicans continue to flounder--and founder. And the country at large does not identify with the Bush "administration"--to say the least---so the danger of said group taking over on a permanent basis is not high, to put it mildly. And I suspect many groups--not just Mudcatters-- are monitoring to make damn sure it doesn't happen. Which is perfectly understandable after all the abuses of the past 7 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,Homey Date: 26 Oct 07 - 11:01 PM Now here is more propaganda and lies we have to deal with: Sharp drop in violence seen in Iraq Mon Oct 22, 2007 By Aseel Kami BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Violence in Iraq has dropped by 70 percent since the end of June, when U.S. forces completed their build-up of 30,000 extra troops to stabilise the war-torn country, the Interior Ministry said on Monday. The ministry released the new figures as bomb blasts in Baghdad and the northern city of Mosul killed five people and six gunmen died in clashes with police in the holy Shi'ite city of Kerbala, southwest of the capital. Washington began sending reinforcements to Iraq in February to try to buy Iraq's feuding political leaders time to reach a political accommodation to end violence between majority Shi'ites and minority Sunni Arabs that has killed tens of thousands and forced millions from their homes. While the leaders have failed to agree on key laws aimed at reconciling the country's warring sects, the troop buildup has succeeded in quelling the violence. Under the plan, U.S. troops left their large bases and set up combat outposts in neighbourhoods while launching a series of summer offensives against Sunni Islamist al Qaeda, other Sunni Arab militants and Shi'ite militias in the Baghdad beltway. Interior Ministry spokesman Major-General Abdul-Karim Khalaf told reporters there had been a 70 percent reduction in violence countrywide in the three months from July to September from the previous quarter. In Baghdad, considered the epicentre of the violence because of its mix of Shi'ites and Sunni Arabs, car bombs had decreased by 67 percent and roadside bombs by 40 percent, he said. There had been a 28 percent drop in the number of bodies found dumped in the capital's streets. In Anbar, a former insurgent hotbed where Sunni Arab tribes have joined U.S. forces against al Qaeda, there has been an 82 percent drop in violent deaths. "These figures show a gradual improvement in controlling the security situation," Khalaf said. Data from the health, interior and defence ministries in September showed a 50 percent drop in civilian deaths across the country from August, when 1,773 fatalities were recorded. The figures confirm U.S. data showing a positive trend in combating al Qaeda bombers, there is growing instability in southern Iraq, where rival Shi'ite factions are fighting for political dominance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Ron Davies Date: 27 Oct 07 - 07:32 AM Homey-- "...the leaders have failed to agree on key laws..." And just what was the purpose of the "surge"? Would you mind refreshing our memories? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,Homey Date: 28 Oct 07 - 08:16 PM More lies: Ramadi war zone now rare bright spot KIM CURTIS, Associated Press Sun Oct 28 RAMADI, Iraq - For veterans of Ramadi, it seems like a different place and a different war. Just last year, soldiers were breaking down doors, hunting insurgents and struggling to secure the city block by block. U.S. troops now are invited into the homes of sheiks for lunch. Life is not all good in this former Sunni extremist fiefdom about 70 miles west of Baghdad, but it's better. Today's worries aren't car bombs or shelling in the streets. There's peace enough to complain about the crippled electricity grid, dirty water, broken sewers. Marines and soldiers also have adopted different roles: urban planners, community relations managers and political operatives. "We're knee-deep in counterinsurgency here," said Marine Capt. Brian Cillessen, who's in charge of a group of about 150 Marines living and working in a house they rent in southern Ramadi. "We came here with a very conventional mind-set. We weren't expecting this. ... I joined the Marine Corps to be a point man on a patrol," chuckled the San Juan, N.M., native. Instead, Cillessen and his troops are conducting a census and registering weapons, repairing sewer systems, ensuring fuel for cooking and heat is sold for fair prices, approving contracts to build new schools, parks and playgrounds, and perhaps most important, cultivating relationships with Iraqi police and citizens. The violence in Anbar province is by no means over. So far this year 135 troops have died here — 16 percent of all military deaths in Iraq, according to figures compiled by The Associated Press. But from 2004 through 2006, an average of 345 members of coalition forces died each year in Anbar province or about 41 percent of all military deaths. The decline of violence rests on a widening basis of trust. It's cultivated in handshakes, platters heaped with rice, chicken and lamb, cup after cup of sweet tea and clouds of cigarette smoke. Anbar is a sprawling western province that includes Ramadi and stretches through mainly desert from near Baghdad to the borders of Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Last year, U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officials declared Anbar lost. "The social and political situation has deteriorated to a point" where U.S. and Iraqi troops "are no longer capable of militarily defeating the insurgency," according to a five-page report written in August 2006 by Col. Peter Devlin, a military intelligence officer with the Marine Expeditionary Force. The Sunni insurgency had sunk roots so deep in Anbar that the Islamic State of Iraq, an al-Qaida front group, declared Ramadi its capital. "These guys were ruthless," said Col. John W. Charlton of Spokane, Wash., the American commander responsible for Ramadi. "They would come in and cut young men's heads off and drag their bodies through the streets." An important turning point was the founding late last year of the Anbar Awakening Council by the charismatic Sheik Abdul Sattar Abu Risha. He united dozens of Sunni tribes against al-Qaida. Fed up with the violence and eager for revenge against al-Qaida members who killed 10 family members, including his father, Abu Risha persuaded citizens to join the police force. They did — in droves — despite past attacks against recruits. "Sheiks see themselves as prominent leaders of the community. They recognize you have to have good, intelligent people running things," Charlton said. "(Abu Risha) wasn't saying, 'Do this for me.' He was saying, 'Do this for your family, for your country.'" There are now 8,000 police officers and 14 police stations in Ramadi, according to the U.S. military. That's compares with fewer than 200 officers in spring 2006. "Al-Qaida was just reeling," Charlton said. "They lost their capital. They lost all their good areas around there. ... We essentially made a gated community out of a city of 300,000 people." But al-Qaida struck its own shocking blow — killing Abu Risha last month. U.S. military leaders called the fatal bombing an inside job, organized by one of Abu Risha's bodyguards. All the alleged perpetrators were rounded up. The sheik's death could easily have shattered the fragile peace.Instead, Charlton said, the people declared Abu Risha a martyr. His image now appears on posters in the streets, on walls in offices and on placards in car windshields. A parade was held in his honor on Oct. 23. Schoolgirls, bunches of silk flowers in one hand, waved the yellow flag of the Anbar Awakening, now renamed the Iraqi Awakening. "People do feel the weight's off," said Ambassador Ryan Crocker. "Al-Qaida simply is gone." What remains of al-Qaida in the province is a contingent near Lake Tharthar, just north of Ramadi, according to Charlton, who initiated an attack there last week. In Ramadi, fresh paint spruces up concrete barriers put up by U.S. and Iraqi forces. Shops selling meat, fruit, clothing, candy and cigarettes are open for business alongside crumbling buildings battered by gunfire. Children play alongside heaps of rubble from demolished buildings. Dozens of workmen wearing coveralls sweep streets, collect garbage and repair power lines. Uniformed police officers direct traffic. The city bustles with life from dawn to well-past sunset. As U.S. troops walk patrols, they're swarmed by children asking for candy, chocolate or pencils. Basic phrases in Arabic — hello, how are you, what is your name — fly back and forth to the delight of both the children and adults. Attacks, including those by small-arms fire, explosive devices, have decreased from about 30 a day in January to fewer than one a day now, according to the U.S. military. Last year, during the holy month of Ramadan, there were 442 incidents in the area; this year, there were four, the military said. Sheik Ahmed Abu Risha has taken over the movement from his slain younger brother. They were always close, talking daily while the elder brother ran family businesses in Dubai and the younger took care of things at home. Despite his loss, Ahmed Abu Risha seems to accept — though not relish — his new leadership role. His brother embraced the spotlight, but Ahmed seems to shy from it. He's soft-spoken, friendly, but not extroverted. He said he meets about 300 people a day who come looking for jobs, offering advice, asking for help. He is now on his first visit to the U.S., and plans to meet with President Bush. "We are the only movement that is supported by all the people," he told The Associated Press. "We are the only people who fought al-Qaida and won. We are good fighters and we are good builders and now we want to rebuild this country." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:23 PM Amazing what local initiative can do. BTW, Homie, while the stories you have posted have a certain bias to them (such as failing to distinguish between Al Queda in Iraq and Al Queda itself) I see no reason to call them lies. I find them hopeful, actually. I suppose you are just being heavily sardonic and sarcastic. Not unusual for folks of the rightward stripe. But thanks, anyway for finding some positive tidbits. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:25 AM Four years after his pointless invasion of Iraq, President Bush still confuses bullying with grand strategy. He refuses to do the hard work of diplomacy — or even acknowledge the disastrous costs of his actions. The Republican presidential candidates have apparently decided that the real commander in chief test is to see who can out-trash talk the White House on Iran. The world should not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but there is no easy fix here, no daring surgical strike. Consider Natanz, the underground site where Iran is defying the Security Council by spinning a few thousand centrifuges to produce nuclear fuel. American bombers could take it out, but what about the even more sophisticated centrifuges the administration accuses Iran of hiding? Beyond the disastrous diplomatic and economic costs, a bombing campaign is unlikely to set back Iran's efforts for more than a few years. ... (NY Times Monday Editorial) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:43 AM This Times Op-Ed is interesting enough to warrant inclusion here, particularly with its insights into the roots of "terrorism". Montreal MUCH as George W. Bush's presidency was ineluctably shaped by Sept. 11, 2001, so the outbreak of the French Revolution was symbolized by the events of one fateful day, July 14, 1789. And though 18th-century France may seem impossibly distant to contemporary Americans, future historians examining Mr. Bush's presidency within the longer sweep of political and intellectual history may find the French Revolution useful in understanding his curious brand of 21st- century conservatism. Soon after the storming of the Bastille, pro-Revolutionary elements came together to form an association that would become known as the Jacobin Club, an umbrella group of politicians, journalists and citizens dedicated to advancing the principles of the Revolution. The Jacobins shared a defining ideological feature. They divided the world between pro- and anti-Revolutionaries — the defenders of liberty versus its enemies. The French Revolution, as they understood it, was the great event that would determine whether liberty was to prevail on the planet or whether the world would fall back into tyranny and despotism. The stakes could not be higher, and on these matters there could be no nuance or hesitation. One was either for the Revolution or for tyranny. By 1792, France was confronting the hostility of neighboring countries, debating how to react. The Jacobins were divided. On one side stood the journalist and political leader Jacques-Pierre Brissot de Warville, who argued for war. Brissot understood the war as preventive — "une guerre offensive," he called it — to defeat the despotic powers of Europe before they could organize their counter-Revolutionary strike. It would not be a war of conquest, as Brissot saw it, but a war "between liberty and tyranny." Pro-war Jacobins believed theirs was a mission not for a single nation or even for a single continent. It was, in Brissot's words, "a crusade for universal liberty." Brissot's opponents were skeptical. "No one likes armed missionaries," declared Robespierre, with words as apt then as they remain today. Not long after the invasion of Austria, the military tide turned quickly against France. The United States, France's "sister republic," refused to enter the war on France's side. It was an infuriating show of ingratitude, as the French saw it, coming from a fledgling nation they had magnanimously saved from foreign occupation in a previous war. Confronted by a monarchical Europe united in opposition to revolutionary France — old Europe, they might have called it — the Jacobins rooted out domestic political dissent. It was the beginning of the period that would become infamous as the Terror. Among the Jacobins' greatest triumphs was their ability to appropriate the rhetoric of patriotism — Le Patriote Français was the title of Brissot's newspaper — and to promote their political program through a tightly coordinated network of newspapers, political hacks, pamphleteers and political clubs. Even the Jacobins' dress distinguished "true patriots": those who wore badges of patriotism like the liberty cap on their heads, or the cocarde tricolore (a red, white and blue rosette) on their hats or even on their lapels. Insisting that their partisan views were identical to the national will, believing that only they could save France from apocalyptic destruction, Jacobins could not conceive of legitimate dissent. Political opponents were treasonous, stabbing France and the Revolution in the back. To defend the nation from its enemies, Jacobins expanded the government's police powers at the expense of civil liberties, endowing the state with the power to detain, interrogate and imprison suspects without due process. Policies like the mass warrantless searches undertaken in 1792 — "domicilary visits," they were called — were justified, according to Georges Danton, the Jacobin leader, "when the homeland is in danger." Robespierre — now firmly committed to the most militant brand of Jacobinism — condemned the "treacherous insinuations" cast by those who questioned "the excessive severity of measures prescribed by the public interest." He warned his political opponents, "This severity is alarming only for the conspirators, only for the enemies of liberty." Such measures, then as now, were undertaken to protect the nation — indeed, to protect liberty itself. If the French Terror had a slogan, it was that attributed to the great orator Louis de Saint-Just: "No liberty for the enemies of liberty." Saint-Just's pithy phrase (like President Bush's variant, "We must not let foreign enemies use the forums of liberty to destroy liberty itself") could serve as the very antithesis of the Western liberal tradition. On this principle, the Terror demonized its political opponents, imprisoned suspected enemies without trial and eventually sent thousands to the guillotine. All of these actions emerged from the Jacobin worldview that the enemies of liberty deserved no rights. Though it has been a topic of much attention in recent years, the origin of the term "terrorist" has gone largely unnoticed by politicians and pundits alike. The word was an invention of the French Revolution, and it referred not to those who hate freedom, nor to non-state actors, nor of course to "Islamofascism." A terroriste was, in its original meaning, a Jacobin leader who ruled France during la Terreur. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: Donuel Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:07 AM Rhinholt Neebor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,Homey Date: 30 Oct 07 - 11:33 PM This cannot possibly true because everybody knows that the US war on terrorism is a miserable failure: Al-Qaida shows signs of being in slow decline. Midland Reporter-Telegram 10/30/2007 It is evident the terrorist organization known as al-Qaida still is working hard to disrupt the Western culture across the world, including in Iraq, but there are emerging signs the influence of the network is somewhat waning. Oh sure, al-Qaida still is capable of carrying out devastating attacks in Iraq and other world venues, but the organization's structure pretty much has been disrupted. Al-Qaida continues to recruit Europeans for explosives training in Pakistan because Europeans can enter the United States more easily without a visa. According to the Christian Science Monitor, "All across the Arab world, where al-Qaida had sought to build influence and bases of operation on the back of widespread anger against the U.S. over its war in Iraq and the broader war on terrorism, the movement is now showing signs that it is stalled, if not in retreat." In Iraqi cities of Fallujah and Ramadi, and other parts of Anbar Province, al-Qaida simply is gone. The al-Qaida network is having a hard time finding safe harbor anywhere in the world. And when they do it is in some remote area like Pakistan where they have local support among sympathtic tribal leaders. Al-Qaida keeps limping along, popping up with these little groups here and there, causing trouble, producing a showdown, and then losing. Muslims in general are beginning to reject al-Qaida. Fewer and fewer Muslims are seeing al-Qaida as the organization seeking to defend the purity of the Muslim world. This is not to say al-Qaida's recruiting efforts have stopped, but their efforts have been hindered. Suicide bombings in Iraq, for instance, still take place almost daily, but those attacks are down from 60 a month to 30 a month and less deadly overall. Also, the foreign flow of suicide bombers has dwindled as al-Qaida is finding fewer and fewer Muslims willing to give their lives for the cause. The U.S. is doing something right in this war on terror, but that is the part of the story that is not being told. Al-Qaida increasingly is being sent underground and on the run. We understand successes in this area are hard to see and feel when there are still evidences of treacherous acts at every turn. But this is a war that will be won by eliminating one piece of the puzzle at a time. It is tedious, costly and tests our resolve. We just hope we don't lose that resolve before the job is done. |