Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)

Subject: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 04:36 PM

I was asked last night if I knew a song called "Lugger on the north wall', from Hull. I replied that it sounded like the kind of song I should know, but Google and Digitrad haven't turned up anything. Anybody know the words/tune/author?

Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 04:55 PM

No but must be contemporary as there are no trad songs of sea from Hull. Linda Kelly may be the culprit. Also 'north wall' is not a familiar phrase to me and I was born next to the docks.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 05:40 PM

Wasn't the North Wall to do with Grimsby as written and sung by Dave Evardson (I think about the demise of the fishing industry)

There is a reference on the link below, about halfway down this article concerning the North Wall at I presume Grimsby Docks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/48/a2051948.shtml

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 05:43 PM

Dave and Julie Evardson Track nine "One More Trip" - Musical Refelctions of Old Grimsby.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 06:32 PM

Or even "Reflections......"

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Les from Hull
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 08:35 PM

The only North Wall I know about in Hull is where the north side of the Town Walls was. The north side of our fish dock was usually called the 'dry side'. Also we never went in for luggers much. Go to Grimsby. Go directly to Grimsby. Do not pass 'Go'. Do not collect 200 pounds.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 09:11 PM

The North Wall is indeed part of Grimsby Docks, and still home to many businesses in the fish and food-processing industries. Ron Baxter (Sailoron) reckons he has heard a song that mentions the "cold North Wall".

Album available from the Chantey Cabin.

I'll call them in the morning! Thanks, Folkiedave.

Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: gnomad
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 03:37 AM

Dave Evardson's North Wall seems the likely candidate.

Discussed in this thread.

Like the other Humbersiders here I have no knowledge of a North Wall relating to Hull fishing, but there is one at Grimsby. Not surprising when you remember that the Humber has Hull on its north bank, and Grimsby on the south.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:22 AM

maybe the "Lugger on the north wall" is a mishearing/corruption of "along the bleak north wall"

geoff t

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Willa
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 08:24 AM

Geoff's suggestion seems a likely one. Dave's song is quite widely known now, and possibly undergoing the 'folk process' as it travels!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Snuffy
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 09:03 AM

There is also a North Wall in Dublin

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 02:47 PM

Thanks, Gnomad, that's the one. Should have thought of Trawlertown myself, we worked with John Connolly and Jane Ludlam on a sort of "East meets West" program of fishing songs for Fylde about ten years ago, and he very likely sang the North Wall song then.

Thanks all for contributions

Ross

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:09 PM

The Eiger has a 'north face', but that's on the Trent isn't it?
Never was any good at geography!

I'll get me coat.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: r.padgett
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 12:36 PM

all along the bleak North Wall, as above

Dave and Julie Evardson ~ Grimsby

I reckon

Ray

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Rasener
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:57 AM

Just thought I would add this link, where you can listen to a lovely version of The North Wall by CARA from their CD Lost Forgotten. They are appearing at Faldingworth Live on December 5th 2008 together with Shep Woolley who is doing his show Rock n Roll (Elvis to Revolver)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=310835943

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: GUEST,Skribla
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:01 PM

Dave & Julie's website is www.evardsongs.com - you should be able to contact Dave by e-mail from there.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lugger on the north wall (Hull)
From: Rasener
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:13 PM

I was talking to Dave today and he allowed me to put the link up to CARA's version as he thought it was a lovely version.Oaklet also gave permission.