Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)

Subject: BS: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg
From: saulgoldie
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 08:06 PM

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-death-live-updates/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 08:23 PM

As if things weren't hard enough already. She tried to hold on - what a strong woman.

The political strife in the US is so high already that when McConnell tries to put a judge in place now, especially after not letting Obama fill a seat a year out from an election, there may be enough pressure on the entire senate to stand in his way.

Ruth's life was remarkable, but her absence is going to be dreadful.

Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 08:49 PM

A comment from me, my wife (a lawyer), and our friend Mary (also a lawyer and former associate Dean of a law school: Well, DAMN!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 09:35 PM

Fuck, putain de merde, egye meg a fene!

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 09:52 PM

Over the past year, my wife and I watched two movies about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and we loved them both. RBG, a 2018 documentary, did an excellent job of telling her whole life story and conveying her intellect and personality. On the Basis of Sex is a 2018 biographical drama that covers Ginsberg's legal education and early career, from about 1956 until she won an important gender discrimination case in 1973 [the Supreme Court declined to hear this case, thus upholding the decision of the 10th Circuit]. These two movies made us fall in love with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She served her country and its people well. May she rest in peace.

And may her successor be her equal.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 11:50 PM

Every Republican Senator who's up for re-election should look at voting for a nominee to replace RBG before November as a chance to lose votes. There's no upside to voting "Yes". Republican voters are going to vote to re-elect them and Democratic voters are going to vote against them whether they vote "Yes" or "No". It's the independents who are the key, and pissing off even a handful of them by seconding McConnell's hypocrisy could be costly.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 09:02 AM

What made the friendship between Scalia and Ginsburg work

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: EBarnacle
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 01:30 PM

It may be whistling in the dark but I have seen reports that several Republican senators have stated that they will not vote to confirm until a new president is in place. Time will tell.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 07:12 PM

Ooh I hope so.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 07:57 PM

Two have said they won't vote for it before the election. I believe three are needed. Also, there are a couple months after the election that the evil Cheeto will still be in office.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 05:59 PM

Her style of lessons my mother taught me were wonderful. One of my favs is "my mother taught me that it pays to be a little deaf".

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 09:31 AM

Lots and lots of images, quotes, and stories about her over the last few days. If nothing else, they offer a look at a life well-lived and give people goals to set for themselves. As to whether this collective grief and appreciation will have an impact on just a few members of the senate, time will tell. If they project that Trump is going down and McConnell may lose his post as leader in the senate, then a preemptive conciliatory abstention from voting now will be to their benefit in 2021. Serving everyone to serve themselves, but whatever it takes.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 08:49 PM

I would suspect that, if the process drags on past the election, and Trump gets voted out, the kind of thinking Stilly River Sage indicates might get a few more Republican senators to think twice about going ahead with confirming Trump's nominee during the lame duck weeks.

The complicating factor is that if, as seems likely, Trump kicks up a ruckus about the validity of a vote that goes against him, and it gets pushed up for the Supreme Court to determine things, there's a good chance of a four four split with an eight member court.

Is it possible some of the judges might actually decide to act as judges rather than as political placemen in that situation?

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 04:00 AM

I have just read elsewhere the suggestion that part of the umseemly hurry about replacement is to avoid that four four split over any complaint about the result of the election.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 12:55 PM

The last two generations of women owe new found opportunities to Ruth.
At least in the US.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 02:57 PM

RIP to a gutsy little lady, a true inspiration. And I have to add in an appreciation of Sandra Day O'Connor who RBG also gave credit to as a pioneer in the placement of women into the Supreme Court.

As to the current fracas, it is politics in the raw. POWER. Mitch McConnell and President Trump are in their current positions, and they know it, precisely to take advantage of the situation that Mitch McConnell has engineered.

There is reason to hope: Not a few times the selection of a Justice has resulted in a person who does not jive with the expectations of the chooser. Also: while this is a matter of politics, there are still quite strong traditions of judicial equanimity or at least the appearance of such.

And again, to stay with the subject of the thread, Ruth Bader Ginsburg will remain an inspiration of a life well lived, not easy, but not supposed to be easy. One of those cases of someone with specific goals and concerns, the expansion of rights under the law to women, being an example to all humans. Making us Americans better at being ourselves and a little more conscience of how we can achieve that.

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 05:57 PM

Politics are always raw.
Elections are always cooked.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/us/politics/ginsburg-lie-in-state.html

Subject: RE: Obit: Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1933-2020)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Sep 20 - 06:50 PM

One thing Donald Trump has in common with Ruth Ginsberg.

They are both lying in state.