BS: Chrysler's new mantra!

Subject: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:37 PM

Fiat, don't fail me now!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:43 PM

LOL Yup...

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:45 PM

Oy

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:21 PM

Yep, quite a fiat, I'd say. And now a fiat accompli.

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:50 PM

Fiat will start with a 20% stake, which will grow to 35% when certain targets are met. The health care unit of The United Auto Workers will own 55% and the Canadian and U. S. governments about 10 per cent.
[There could be a problem over who makes the policies, the Union or Fiat executives]. That last sentence is mine, not part of the article.

Before the price of gas went skyward, 3/4 of Chrysler sales were pick-up trucks and SUVs.

The small vehicle market will be highly competitive. [If gasoline remains reasonable, SUVs such as the Jeep Cherokee will remain big sellers]. Chrysler failed to compete in the passenger car market.

The Globe and Mail (Toronto), Greg Keenan, June 10, 2009:
www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/fiat-turns-attention-to-chrysler-but-its-no-slam-dunk/article1176902

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 10:39 PM

All of Detroit's sports teams are providing these cars free for all their players. Athlete's Fiat !!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Will Fly
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 03:58 AM

Vince Guaraldi's written a new Thieme song or the occasion: "Cast Your Fiat To The Winds".

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 06:09 AM

Fabricano Italiano Automobilo Detroito ?

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Ernest
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 06:57 AM

Fiat voluptas meo

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 09:22 AM

Fiat voluntas tua.

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 11:09 AM

Chrysler.....it' still broke. Fix It Again Tony!

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 11:54 AM

The 300 series look nice but a mate who has been in one says they feel very tinny.

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 01:21 PM

I mated in one once!

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 05:08 PM

For real 'tinny', think Fiat. Back when they were permitted in Canada, a friend who had one got hit from behind and accordioned into the vehicle ahead. He suffered severe damage to his legs as the Fiat collapsed. His next vehicle was a pick-up.

Current Fiats would not meet crashworthyness tests in U. S. or Canada.

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 05:29 PM

The Fiat 124 coupes of all series were cracking vehicles - the 1438cc A series, the 1608cc B series and the 1592cc and 1792 cc C series were all little rockets (for their time), as were the equivalent Special T saloon variants (basically the same bodyshell later sold to LADA).

But they did rust a bit!

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Bill H //\\
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 05:32 PM

Look at it as a homecoming for Chrysler---they did, after all, make the clunker Volare. The song had more buyers than the car.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 10:25 PM

When they first started putting this deal together, I thought the "secured creditors" were big banks and bloated buffoons. It turns out they are other pension funds from other unions and/or investment groups. At the end of the day, it looks like the United Auto Workers simply ripped off their fellow workers.

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 10:33 PM

I took a test ride in a 128 once. The salesgirl wore a black leather skirt. The only think I remember about the car is it was cute and in fourth gear at 40 mph it was running high rpms.

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 10:56 PM

The show wasn't over until the fiat lady sang, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: Chrysler's new mantra!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:02 AM

Don't know what Rigslinger in on about, but union pension funds have been big players for some time in investment.
The Ontario Teachers Union held 108 billion in assets at the end of 2007. They own much prime real estate in NYC and elsewhere in the U. S. and Canada, as well as sizeable chunks of several corporations and they are by no means the largest. They were going to take over Bell Canada, but I don't remember how that came out.

Articles on Auto Workers Health plans-

Aito Workers Union

Chrysler workers' union eyes majority-
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2009-04-27-chrysler-union-eyes-majority-ownership_N.htm