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Subject: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Max Date: 15 Mar 26 - 05:17 PM Hey all, I was finally able to get the search working again. I've also managed to get 4 volumes of Child Ballads pdf pages indexed as well. While I know not everything is working quite yet, I'd appreciate if y'all gave it a spin. Cheers. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Reinhard Date: 15 Mar 26 - 05:59 PM The search seems to work fine at my first tries. Thank you very much, Max! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: DaveRo Date: 15 Mar 26 - 06:17 PM Advanced search still fails eg tools AND firefox AND browser in the forum |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 15 Mar 26 - 08:36 PM FANTASTIC !Thank You Mr MAX Sincerely, Gargoyle Mudcat/DT is an overwhelming contribution to our world. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: DaveRo Date: 16 Mar 26 - 03:51 AM A simple forum search search for "thirty years" with or without quotes returns at least one post which includes "thirty year" (no s). A simple forum search search for "years thirty" returns posts which includes "year thirty". Deliberate? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Doug Chadwick Date: 16 Mar 26 - 06:06 AM I'm impressed Max. A test search took me straight to the correct thread from 2002. DC |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Paul Burke Date: 16 Mar 26 - 08:28 AM Well done that man. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Charley Noble Date: 16 Mar 26 - 04:44 PM Wonderful! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Max Date: 17 Mar 26 - 01:56 PM BTW, if anyone wants to download the PDFs of the full volumes, you can snatch them here.https://mudcat.org/child/download |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Max Date: 17 Mar 26 - 02:20 PM Oh, and I believe the syntax for advanced searches (tho I have not tested any) is as follows:
Solr's default search uses a superset of the Lucene query syntax, which offers precise search capabilities using special characters and operators.
Basic Syntax Components
Term Modifiers
Escaping Special Characters
To search for any of the special characters that are part of the query syntax (+, -, &, |, !, (, ), {, }, [, ], ^, ", ~, *, ?, :, \), you must escape them with a backslash (\).
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Mar 26 - 08:07 PM Amazing ... new research tools I never imagined far beyond "Boolean." This will be fun to explore. THANK YOU! Mr. MAX Sincerely, Gargoyle The SillyRiverStage will be spinning for years |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Max Date: 17 Mar 26 - 11:30 PM This is kinda cool too (additional public domain songbooks). Maybe just for the real nerds here: https://mudcat.org/child/download/OtherSongBooks. I'll be working to organize, label, and index (make searchable) these additional public domain song books over the next few weeks. I'm also working on a reasonable mobile interface for mudcat. So, all the long overdue features are finally coming 'round... In my defense, you fuckers don't exactly like (appreciate) change, so... let's just say I haven't had the incentive... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: DaveRo Date: 18 Mar 26 - 01:02 PM The basic search (Lyrics & Knowledge Search, with a single input field on the front page) is impressively quick. But can return many false results. For example a search for 'minimal' returns 'more that 1000' matches. But that includes posts that contain minimalism, minimize, minimized, minim (lots of those), mini-me, and many other variants. I don't know whether that's a bug or a feature. I tried search terms such a 'minimal NOT minim' and 'minimal AND NOT minim' but didn't get a convincing set of results with just 'minimal'. Perhaps more important is whether it finds all posts containing a search term. That would require much more more testing to discover. The advanced search always gives me a 500 - Internal server error. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 18 Mar 26 - 02:58 PM Yes - it seems to be using some sort of word stem for the search. I tried minim?ze (ie a wildcard instead of i) and that returned no results (though minimize is in the first thread result returned by minimal search!) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: GUEST,Halfmoon Charlie Date: 18 Mar 26 - 05:37 PM Great! It seems to work well. Thank you. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Mar 26 - 12:16 AM Viewing Mudcat on a phone is a delicate process of pinching and carefully touching the screen. Don't tell us you're moving to a responsive web design? (Actually, I work for a business with a new site that was until recently an old non-responsive site and currently the broken links far outnumber the working ones, so we need to be careful what we wish for!) It's been a while since I sent $50. Maybe it's time again . . . |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: DaveRo Date: 19 Mar 26 - 05:54 AM Mick Pearce (MCP) wrote: Yes - it seems to be using some sort of word stem for the search.Indeed, Solr calls it stemming. I suspect single-word searches are not a useful indicator of how well it performs on real searches for posts. It performs quite well with names (eg colin dipper) or titles (eg maid in bedlam). Max: it would be better if the tick-boxes 'DT, Forum, Child' appear on the same order in the front page and the search results page. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Mar 26 - 11:04 AM There's a page with all of the search parameters and terms here (reach it from the "help" link on the Advanced SuperSearch page). |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat Search Now Working From: Dan Schatz Date: 19 Mar 26 - 02:29 PM This is a huge help, and will make things so much easier, especially for newer folks. You're awesome. Dan |
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