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Subject: Webpage Warning From: Metchosin Date: 06 May 00 - 05:40 PM I am not sure how accurate this message is, but I thought I should post it here in case anyone has any confimation of this or further information regarding the following .
Hi everyone. To those of you who use Geocities Yahoo as your homepage providers. Apparently they now have it written in their terms of service when you have a page listed on their FREE ahem pages that you MUST sign over all copyright of images and other media you create on their sites. Basically to make a long story short if you have images or such on your sites if you host them on YAHOO Geocities you are giving up ALL copyright to your item Basically this is why ALOT of people are abandoning their sites at Yahoo Geocities and going elsewhere. So please forward this email to all people who you think have a site on Yahoo Geocities because this just came into effect recently but it still goes for people who have been on Geo before this. Thanks |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: katlaughing Date: 06 May 00 - 06:56 PM Here's what I found at what is supposed to be their latest TOS:
"CONTENT SUBMITTED TO YAHOO GEOCITIES "You acknowledge that Yahoo does not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to refuse or remove any Content that is available via the Service. Without limiting the foregoing, Yahoo and its designees shall have the right to remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such Content." Now, I am curious about some of the places I have built websites. I'll have to go read the fine print, again! Thanks, Metchosin. luvyakat
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: MMario Date: 06 May 00 - 08:04 PM I would suspect just about any host has something similair to this.. My reading is this basically says - "you give us the right to make your site available to the internet, we reserve the right to remove or refuse anything you try to post, and everything is null and void if you stop using us." |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Willie-O Date: 06 May 00 - 08:20 PM Well, the fine print kat provided doesn't really agree with the first post--you don't surrender copyright, and no one can ever take your copyright away retroactively on something you legitimately claim--not without legal proceedings anyway--but what gives me pause is the phrase "modify and adapt". Seems to me that is the exclusive right of the copyright holder, and a publishing service can accept it or reject it but they're giving themselves licence to modify or "adapt" your work without claiming that they own it or are in any way liable for it--I don't think this will fly if challenged, it's vague and contradictory. W-O |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 06 May 00 - 08:44 PM I am not sure, but I suspect that "modify" part of the clause, has to do with the banner ads they place on each page as it shows. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Metchosin Date: 06 May 00 - 08:46 PM Thanks for the clarification guys, when my husband saw the above posted at one of the sites he was on this afternoon, he was worried as our daughter is intending to have some of her MP3's on her Page. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Jon Freeman Date: 06 May 00 - 09:47 PM Yep WillieO, I don't understand law but I find the terms modify and adapt worriying. Does anyone know what the legal meaning of these words are? Jon |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: MK Date: 06 May 00 - 10:32 PM Yep....There's no such thing as a free lunch. One of the things that really infuriated me when I first got onto the web a few years back, and has only proliferated since, is that everybody (ISPs, Webhosting services, index submission services, etc.) has got their hand out, for a cash grab or ulterior motive that will generate a cash flow. Anytime you see something that is supposedly free (Mudcat Forum exempted), the word FREE should trigger alarm bells. Everything is conditional on something else. Bit of thread creep here, but hopefully others might see this as a public service. Others may already be familiar with this but for those that aren't...whether you are logged on to the Internet via dial-up connection, cable modem, DSL, whatever, you owe it to yourself to download a free (yeah there's that word again *G*)and very effective firewall program called Zone Alarm. This simple little program will stop all attempted hacks and intrusions into your computer while you are connected and online --especially good for people who maintain 24/7 internet connections even when you're not sitting at your computer. Yes it uses between 5 and 7% of Windows resources but the security it provides is in my opinion an acceptable trade-off. I was shocked after first putting it on my system a few months ago, at how many attempted probes (either thru telenet, TCP/IP, Net bios, and other "open" ports on ones computer) that are made in a 24 hour period. Some of these attempted hacks are generated by cookies placed on your computer from websites you visit, and act like homing pigeons relaying info about your hardrive contents and browsing habbits back to its source; some are webmasters who log your IP address and then try and find out more information about your which they can use at their own discretion or sell to marketing, advertising and bulk junk emailers, etc. Without a firewall program in place you are a sitting duck and literally naked and exposed to some wannabee hacker, business competitor, etc. I urge everyone that I know and care about (which includes the members of this Forum) to download this program and install. It's very simple to set up. Once you've installed it, just set the security setting for your LOCAL network to LOW, and the INTERNET connection to HIGH. As you run your web browser or email or other internet application, the firewall program will ask you if you want these apps to access the internet. Just say yes, as far as email, web browsing, newsgroup, ICQ etc...and the program will remember, and not bother you about when you go to run these apps the next time. I would suggest when you configure the firewall, to leave checked, the box that will put a notice/prompt on the screen notifying you each and every time an attempted intrusion into your computer is made while you're on the Internet, and of course it will give you the source of the intrusion and other details, and, it will reassure you that the firewall blocked this intrusion. You will be shocked and amazed at the frequency of hack and probe attempts into your computer. An |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Brendy Date: 06 May 00 - 11:04 PM Funny you should mention Zone Alarm. When I started to be aware of internet security (born from watching reports of high-level intrusions of web sites on the box), I joined Fred Langa's mailing list having heard about him from a friend. I also discovered Steve Gibson's site at www.grc.com , where he does a scan on your computer to see what is 'visible' to the outside world and was unpleasantly surprised by how many 'ports' I had open. I hadn't a clue at first about the implications of this, until one day I received the phone bill. (I use a dial up connection - soon to change to cable!!). Apparently I had had two separate phone calls placed to Guyana. These weren't just ordinary phone-calls, mind you; They were to, what the telephone company diplomatically referred to as 'Entertainment phone numbers' The 'extra' bill was 700 Kroner - roughly £90 (don't know the $ value). The phone man said that there had been a lot of complaints about this kind of thing, and one of the things he advised me to do was to tighten up my internet security - just in case. He also scrapped the bill, but that's a different story. So is this, really, and I'm sorry for the thread creep, but I, too, would advise the installation of Zone Alarm; Fred Langa and Steve Gibson recommended it and that's why I did it. You can sit pleasantly back and listen to the 'chimes at midnight' as it's alert window informs you of who's 'pinging' you and where abouts he/she/it is doing it. And it's true: I'm sure it's not just Yahoo that has that in the small print. I'm thinking of the 'MP3's on the website' idea myself soon and it's a thing we have to keep in mind when we sign up for anything like that. B. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: MK Date: 06 May 00 - 11:12 PM FYI...Fred Langa is a leading authority on Windows and also the Editor in Chief of Windows Magazine. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Escamillo Date: 07 May 00 - 12:33 AM Jon Freeman said: "Yep WillieO, I don't understand law but I find the terms modify and adapt worriying. Does anyone know what the legal meaning of these words are? " Jon, I´m no lawyer but have read something about this since I started to be suspicious of all the free stuff in the net. I am almost sure that "MODIFY AND ADAPT" is nothing less than USING your graphical, musical or generally intellectual work for any purpose they want, with only minor "modifications or adaptations" just to step out of the copyright infringement. Recently I downloaded a freeware utility program from a serious source, www.zdnet.com , who are the editors of PCMagazine. The program run very well, and suddenly had an offspring: a small window from AUREATE.COM inviting me to fill a questionaire for "statistical purposes", and a single button: CONTINUE. I shut off my machine and erased everything. Then downloaded OPTOUT from Gibson Reasearch, who confirmed I was forced to be host of a troyan, and cleaned my PC. Immediately I wrote to ZDNet telling them the incident, and asking wether they (ZDNet) were aware of these practices. Never received a reply. Finally I went to the PRIVACY POLICY of ZDNet, read the fine print, and found that they reserve the right to give all or part of the personal information you submit to them, to any third party who ZDNet may consider beneficial or interesting for you, and they should not be liable.. etc. Funny, uh? Thanks Michael,I'll try Zone Alarm. Un abrazo - Andrés |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Brendy Date: 07 May 00 - 12:51 AM Fred Langa also had a series on spyware. Go Zilla, a download accelerator, is guilty of depositing trojans on your system, although whether they are guilty of anything illegal is not for me to say. Zone Alarm will tell you if your computer is 'phoning home', and will block the transmission. The only way to stop them is to uninstall the programme. Optout found 47 Trojans on this yoke. I don't have the problem anymore! |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: MK Date: 07 May 00 - 12:59 AM Yep. I too use OPTOUT regularly. Another thing to keep in mind, is that ICQ is also an excellent transport system for receivng trojans, worms and viruses, and especially through the unsolicited stuff you get sent from porno websites and spammers. I always check my directory where all downloads come into, after every session, just to see what might have arrived. Good thing I did it today. Couple of days ago I set up a filter in my email to block any subject line with the phase "I Love You" or "ILOVEYOU" in it. The filter blocked 1 such message but not the attachment that came with it, but because it was filtered, I was never notified that an email had even arrived. It was only when I routinely went in to have a look at my download directory that I saw the telltale file "ILOVEYOUREADMETXT.VBS" (or something to that effect) that I knew THIS was the critter that if I'd double clicked on it would have meant a complete trashing of my system. So I merely deleted it and then did a through virus scan do ALL the files, not just the program ones or executables. Things were thankfully, clean. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Jon Freeman Date: 07 May 00 - 10:50 AM Michael, thanks for making me aware of Zone Alarm. I have heeded your advice and now have it installed and running on my PC - could be interesting to see what it reports. PS First time I tried to post this, ZoneAlarm blocked me! Jon |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Jeri Date: 07 May 00 - 11:42 AM Michael K, thanks. I downloaded and installed Zone Alarm too. It's going to be interesting to see what it does with HearMe and ICQ. I might be in trouble anyway - I just deleted all my cookies except Mudcat. (Including the one from www.zonelabs.com) |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: MK Date: 07 May 00 - 12:13 PM You're entirely welcome John and Jeri. Deleting your cookies won't have any effect on the functionality of Zone Alarm. One you've set your Internet Security setting to HIGH....go to the Shields Upwebsite have it "Test Your Shields" and "Probe Your Ports". The firewall should block it, but let it run its course of testing. In the end, what you should see is complete and total "STEALTH" mode on all your ports. This, is what you want. I had no trouble using HearMe or ICQ, with the Firewall running. Another thing to mention. If any of you have 2 computers (or more) networked to each other, and sharing a single internet connection through your primary computer (via cable or DSL, etc.) You will need to lower the Internet security setting to MEDIUM, in order for the other machines on the local network to access the Internet through the gateway your machine is providing. On MEDIUM, your computer will be visible on the Internet, but will still block any unwanted probes or intrusions. As I have 2 computers networked in my home office sharing a single cable modem connection, I keep the Local Network settings at LOW (to permit file and printer sharing between the two machines) and the Internet setting to HIGH, except when one of my kids wants to come down and go on the Net on the 2nd machine. Then I just drop the Internet setting down to MEDIUM. Once the kids are done, I put it back up to high. Also, for those that have a permanent internet connection, and play games within Windows, you will want to prevent the Zone Alarm program from displaying notification prompts during gameplay, as these will lock up or crash your game. Rather than disabling Zone Alarm, the easiest thing to do, is before you start your game, go to the START button, and then RUN, and type in on the command line "winipcfg" (without the quotation marks), and see the network card used to access the Internet. It should be easy to spot because you'll see your IP address in the box. Just go to the bottom of the menu box and hit "RELEASE" and this will sever your internet connection. Once you finish your game, go back into WINIPCFG, and hit "RENEW" and that should give you back your internet connection. Any problems, just reboot. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Jon Freeman Date: 07 May 00 - 02:02 PM Just a quick report back. I have run the tests as suggested and everything is OK (Stealth on everything). For my own curiosity, I tried the tests without Zone Alarm running and to my horror, discovered I had the infamous Windows File and Print sharing enabled. Must have been an oversight/sheer carlesness on my part when I recently put Windows 98 on. As regards alerts, I have recieved about 20 messages (in addition to the ones that the tests were obviously going to cause) that indicate another site has tried to gain access to my computer between this post and my last post - scarey!!!. If anybody is still wondering whether to try it or not, my 2d worth is do so and whatever the overhead is, I haven't noticed it in terms of performance - from what I understand from my reading at Sheilds Up, forgetting access to personal files, someone else could be using your PC as a server - that probably does carry a far greater overhead. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: MK Date: 07 May 00 - 02:43 PM Something else to consider. I'm not going to engage or debate in an ethical discussion of using pirated or software that has been cracked, but now with the advent of registering online, certain software companies can also attempt to probe your computer I would imagine to determine if you are a legit or registered owner. One of my best friends uses a cracked copy of the latest Eudora program as well as a cracked copy of Norton Antivirus, and since all attempted "instrusions" show the originating IP address of the probes, in certain cases you can take that IP address, and just put (http://) in front of it in your browser address bar, and see the originating website. He has been probed by Symantec (makers of Norton Anti-Virus) as well as Qualcomm (Eudora maker)and others...but because he had Zone Alarm running they were able to discover didly. Moral of the story: If you decide to use pirated software, (or borrow a friend's copy of something), 1st and foremost always run a complete virus scan on the zip files downloaded BEFORE installing the programs. (There is a version of Winzip8.0 beta in circulation that contains a virus.) Secondly, if you have to give any information to a website in order to download any evaluation copies, always give them phony information such as email address, name, etc...and access these sites through an anonymizer program that will hide your true IP address, before downloading anything. This will also greatly reduce the amount of spam email you receive, since many of these sites sell or share all information that users input for downloading purposes. Third, delete all your cookies after every internet session. (Just go into your Windows directory, find the folder called "Temporary Internet Files", click on the top file, and then scroll down to the bottom of the list and hold the SHIFT key down and click. This will highlight all of the files in the directory. Once highlighted, right click and hit DELETE.) Doing this within IExplorer - Tools - Internet Options - Temporary Internet Files - Delete -----does not get rid of all the cookies. The method encased in brackets here, does. Fourth. If you find a program you really like and is useful to you, pay for it and register the bloody thing. This will encourage software developers to continue creating new and improved programs, apps, games, etc. Personally there is so much crap software on the market, that I find it useful to download evaluation copies and see if the stuff is worth buying. I'd be skeptical about shelling out good money for programs that don't provide evaluation copies. Nothing is more infuriating than say buying a game you think will be good, only to discover that it is laced with bugs, or has a huge learning curve (thus rendering the enjoyment level of playing it to zero), or crashes or locks up your system. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: GUEST,The Emissary Date: 08 May 00 - 05:36 PM I too use Zone Defense, and believe it or not intrusions have been attempted by the IP address attached to Mudcat's domain.I've logged them and traced them back to their source and I shit you not. Coincidence? I think not. Big Brother is watching, and make no mistake, all IP addresses of all Mudcatters are being tracked by the powers that be here. All the more reason to use a program like Zone Defense. Now watch. This entire thread will probably be magically deleted. |
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Subject: RE: Webpage Warning From: Brendy Date: 09 May 00 - 12:46 AM Well, I wouldn't say that the Mudcat has any ulterior motives (what could they want to know?), but I see that ZA have brought out a newer version again: Ver 2 1 1 8 that plugs up some discrepancy at Port 67 (DHCP/BOOTP) - whatever that is. Zone Alarm shoud be paying folks for this advertisement!! B. |
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