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Bobert 14 Aug 12 - 09:14 AM
GUEST,Lighter 14 Aug 12 - 10:00 AM
Rapparee 14 Aug 12 - 10:18 AM
Bobert 14 Aug 12 - 11:09 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 14 Aug 12 - 12:45 PM
Bobert 14 Aug 12 - 12:47 PM
catspaw49 14 Aug 12 - 12:52 PM
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Subject: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 09:14 AM

Well, it had to happen...

Yup, the Merriam-Websters Collegiate Dictionary has added the "f-word" to it's new edition...

A couple of VPs have weighed in on this development... When current VP, Joe Biden, was asked for a comment he said, "This is a big f'n deal"... Former VP, Dick Cheney, wasn't as positive and when asked for a comment he told the reporter to "Go f yourself"??? Guess that new heart of his hasn't much changed his sour disposition...

Me??? I find it curious that this development would occur on the day that Helen Gurley Brown died???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 10:00 AM

Do you mean the word "f-word" or the actual f-word?

If you mean the f-word, that's been in dictonaries for over forty years. If you mean "f-word," that might be new.

Or are you thinking of "f-bomb," which TV news reports now appears for the first time?

In any case, BFD.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 10:18 AM

The original has been in dictionaries for a very, very long time. It's included in Webster's Third Internation (an old, old unabridged dictionary) on a page which, in public libraries, are usually greasy, drity, and well-thumbed by 12 year old boys.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 11:09 AM

f-word, f-bomb??? Mox nix...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 12:45 PM

Yes, been in the Merriam Webster's a long time. My 10th ed. has fuck, fucked up, fucker and fuck off.
It gives the two meanings (copulation, 1680) and use as an interjection (15th C.)

The Oxford English Dictionary has a lot more, with quotations.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 12:47 PM

Tells ya' how far behind the "Charlotte Observer" is, Q...

They just ran the story today...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 12:52 PM

What was added was "F-Bomb" as a separate listing.

Fuckin' A about time...........


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 12:59 PM

Okay... I get it now...

Duhhhh...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 01:00 PM

Here's the history of it. Probably better to say "a history of it."


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 01:02 PM

As an aside, most reputable dictionaries will not enter a word unless it has been in print a few times. Thus, it can take years for a new usage or term to appear.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: gnu
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 04:51 PM

Well fuck me.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: BrendanB
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 04:58 PM

That's a kind offer but I'm already pleasuring an impala.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 05:12 PM

Everyone to his own taste . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Musket
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 07:12 AM

I'm with Billy Connolly on this one. (Not often I say that either...)

He reckons the F word is unambiguous, cathartic in use and conveys your true meaning.

He said you never read; "Fuck off" he hinted.

Of course the word has never left the dictionaries of English.....


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 07:42 AM

"Fuck" and "Fucking" have been in the American Heritage Dictionary since its first edition in 1969/1970.

And when I just pulled it out from the kneehole beneath the computer and five three-ring binders tumbled out against my shin, guess what I said?

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:39 PM

Tish poo?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:58 PM

Yo! This thread is not about the word FUCK but about F-BOMB which is what is what was recently added. Geeziz.........


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:59 PM

Maybe someone could change the thread title???


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 01:25 PM

Maybe people could read the fucking thread!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 01:51 PM

Some prefer impalas, but others may prefer--CLICKY.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'F-word' makes dictionary...
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 02:47 PM

WA Brief history of f-ing and blinding
Jim Carroll

From Eric Partridge's edition of 'A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue' by Captain Francis Grose   

TO F—K. To copulate. [Banned by OD and EDD. Used by Lyndsay ca. 1540, and occurring in Florio's definition offottere: "To jape; to sarde, to fucke; to swive; to occupy." One of the last occasions on which it appeared in print, in the ordinary way of publication, was in Burns. As early as 1728, Bailey de¬fines it asfeminam subagitare, and it would seem to have acquired a bad odour ca. 1690.F.—It is extremely doubtful if the efforts of James Joyce in Ulysses and D.H, Lawrence in Lady Chatterley's Lover have done anything to restore the term to its former place as a language-word, i.e. neither slang nor dialect. B & P.—From Greek phuteuo, L. futuere, Fr. foutre, the medial c coming from a Teutonic root. Sir Richard Burton, in his Arabian Nights, attempted a Gallic twist: futter.—The synonyms (on the basis of F) are numerous in accredited literature exclusive of slang, euphemism, and conventionalism. Of the transitive verbs, the following writers are operatively responsible for these numbers of different synonyms:—Lyndsay, 3; Shake¬speare, 9 Florio, 3; Fletcher, 7; Urquhart,4; Durfey,3; Field¬ing, 2; Burns, 1 . Of the intransitive synonyms:—Shakespeare, 5; Marston, 3; Herrick, 2; Urquhart, 12; Rochester, 1; Durfey, 6; Burns, 6; Whitman, 1.-—The vivid expressiveness and the vigorous ingenuity of these synonyms bear witness to the fertility of English and to the enthusiastic English participa¬tion in the universal fascination of the creative act. The word was very much used by the British Soldier in 1914-1918 (see the Introduction in B & P), when free currency was also given to the adjective formed by the addition of ing and to f—ker; this latter, in the mouths of the fouler-spoken, meant little more than chap, fellow, and the decent substituted mucker; mucking was less frequent.]

Last magnificent word to Burns – From Merrie Muses of Caledonia 1800

WAD YE DO THAT?
TUNE : John Anderson, my jo
From MMC. Original of Burns's song "Lass, when your mither is frae hame" (Ald 1839, n, 156).

Gudewife, when your gudeman's frae hame,
Might I but be sae bauld,
As come to your bed-chamber,
When winter nights are cauld;
As come to your bed-chamber,
When nights are cauld and wat.
And lie in your gudeman's stead,
Wad ye do that?

Young man, an ye should be so kind,
When our gudeman's frae hame.
As come to my bed-chamber,
Where I am laid my lane;
And lie in our gudeman's stead,
I will tell you what,
He f—s me five times ilka night.
Wad ye do that?


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