BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln

Subject: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: kendall
Date: 12 Feb 11 - 04:26 PM

One of Americas greatest presidents and certainly the greatest republican president was born on this date in a place called Nob Creek Kentucky in 1809.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: josepp
Date: 12 Feb 11 - 07:21 PM

He was, in fact, the first republican president. The Grand Old Party is way younger than the democratic party.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Feb 11 - 07:39 PM

"Apart from that. Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Feb 11 - 10:33 PM

I've got a partial bottle of Knob Creek upstairs. I use it to drink to Abe on his birthday, since he himself didn't drink.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 01:26 PM

On January 21, a celebration of Stonewall Jackson's birthday at his house in Lexington, VA, was well-attended. Hot apple cider and cake was offered. (Out behind the house...). This was Lee-Jackson Day, a state holiday in Virginia.

Jefferson Davis, born on June 3, after the war became president of a life insurance company; a typical American success story.
A high school in Houston and one in Mississippi are named after him, and the large Jefferson Davis Memorial in Richmond commemorates him.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 01:33 PM

We got a BBC documentary about him the other evening: "Abraham Lincoln: Saint or Sinner?...documentary re-assessing the reputation of American president, Abraham Lincoln."

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 02:20 PM

Neither Jackson nor Davis was murdered.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: CET
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 02:22 PM

The greatest writer of speeches that ever lived, in my opinion. With some trepidation, I think I would even put him ahead of Churchill. Martin Luther King and Churchill deserve to be mentioned in the same breath with Lincoln, but I can't think of anybody else.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 02:27 PM

For music content, the American Folklife Center shared via Facebook --

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The 16th president was born in 1809 in Hardin County, Kentucky. The American Folklife Center has a 1958 recording of the "The Adam and Eve Wedding Song," composed by Abraham Lincoln and sung by the United States Army Chorus.
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Unfortunately, this is an item that they haven't digitised yet, so unless you're able to visit the Library of Congress, you'll just have to imagine it. (Google doesn't bring up any commercial recordings or print items.)

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 02:53 PM

CET... well said, but I certainly could not choose between those three. Perhaps it is only as I am not as well read on their works.

Oh, yeah, belated happies Abe.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 04:40 PM

Neither Jackson nor Davis was murdered.

Well, Jackson was shot by his own men. And Davis should have been hanged as a traitor.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 05:11 PM

Jackson accidentally shot by pickets, died of pneumonia a week later. Davis became a hero in the South for his resistance to reconstruction, carpetbaggers, and damnyankees.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 06:20 PM

Yup- and for keepin' them damn nigras in their places, preventin them from votin & generally denyin'em their civil & human rights.

Quite a hero.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 07:28 PM

Greag F... please clarify. Some of us are not as well read as you on US history. I have no idea who you are referring to.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 08:45 PM

Gnu, I believe he was referring to Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy.He was captured fleeing from the Yankees on my birthday.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 09:45 PM

Geez, Kendall--I didn't think you were THAT old!

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 11:37 PM

Happy birthday, Abie Baby
Happy birthday to you.
Bang.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: kendall
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 09:13 AM

I know I don't look that old, but it must be all that clean living. S**T, even I can't carry that one off!

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 10:13 AM

Yessiree, Gnu, that Great American, Jeff Davis, a real hero of the South.

The rich slaveowner who said , among many similar utterances, before, during and after the Civil War:

"African slavery, as it exists in the United States, is a moral, a social, and a political blessing."

"We recognize the negro as God and God's Book and God's Laws, in nature, tell us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude...You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be."

And who firmly believed- as his Vice President Alexander Stephens stated, that the country he sought to erect was founded "upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race-- is his natural and normal condition."

A man who was responsible for the slavery & subjugation of 4 millions of Blacks and the deaths of 600,000 combatants and 50,000 civilians.

Yet as Jeff Antley of the Sons of Confederate Veterans recently (Jan 2011) told the New York Times., regarding the "Secession Ball" held in Charleston, SC : " "Many people in the South still believe that is a just and honorable cause. Do I believe they were right in what they did? Absolutely. There's no shame or regret over the action those men took."

Hitler the mass murderer and white supremecist is universally reviled; Jeff Davis gets statures, accolades, and birthday celebrations and balls in his honor.

Only in America.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 10:14 AM

PS: Thomas Jefferson Jackson, by the way, was a "christian"[sic] fundagelical nutcase with delusions of being Oliver Cromwell.
Read up on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 10:18 AM

'Scuse me - Thomas JOHNATHON Jackson.[Thos. Jeff. Jackson was an astronomer]

Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Abraham Lincoln
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 06:43 AM

'Jeff Davis gets statures, accolades, and birthday celebrations and balls in his honor.'
Whereas in England, we had Margaret Thatcher, who is still honoured for her balls. And what balls it all was!