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Subject: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Songwronger Date: 02 Apr 13 - 10:56 PM I concede up front that George W. Bush was/is a fascist. I contend that Obama is also a fascist. Fascism, n.: A political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism). Writing back in 2007, Naomi Wolfe catalogued the steps to creating a dictatorship (which she sought to apply to George W. Bush). Interestingly enough, they apply far more to the man who replaced him. Wolfe's steps include: 1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy 2. Create a gulag 3. Develop a thug caste 4. Set up an internal surveillance system 5. Harass citizens' groups 6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release 7. Target key individuals 8. Control the press 9. Dissent equals treason 10. Suspend the rule of law http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/obamas_fascist_america_in_10_easy_steps.html This piece is by the left/liberal's beloved Naomi Wolf. She was writing about what George W. Bush had done. I don't follow Naomi Wolf. Has her so-called reportage been updated to include Obama's abuses? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:03 PM YAWN. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Songwronger Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:06 PM http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment Or rather, this is the link to Naomi Wolf's 2007 article about Bush. The link in the first posting is to a commentary about Wolf's piece. Both Bush and Obama fit Wolf's definition of fascist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Songwronger Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:07 PM I understand, Mr. Firth. He may be a fascist, but he's YOUR fascist. Back to sleep now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:23 PM I approve. Obama is indeed a Fascist. Now everyone will be subject to scrutiny by the IRS thanks to Obamacare. People who wanted to work part time and go uninsured will be forced ( at the point of a gun if you refuse to buy health insurance or pay the fine ) to go full time. Except those full time jobs are gone with the wind. You musicians that have always worked for cash and cheated on your taxes for decades are going to have to account to Prez al-Obama. I think alot of the Mudcatters are on Medicare and Social Security.Since they won't be forced to buy anything they are ok with it. It's not affecting them, so why should they care? Obama is so much like Reagan it's scary. Reagan dreamed of Star Wars technology. Obama has it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Songwronger Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:33 PM Good points. Obamacare goes FAR beyond mere health insurance. It even addresses gold ownership. And the IRS will be the enforcer. The arm breakers, ironically enough. Obamacare is the most fascist piece of legislation I've ever seen in America. It forces Americans to buy insurance (yes, at the point of a gun) from private insurance companies. Textbook fascism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:55 PM Remember when I said that people were posting to the genocide thread because if we didn't he'd just start another? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 13 - 12:15 AM Songwronger, you're really round the bend. Obama has done none of those things. Or if you think he has, perhaps you would care to go into detail. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 03 Apr 13 - 12:27 AM They rise to the bait every time. They remind me of a species related to the carp. Suckers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 13 - 12:39 AM Okay, I confess! I know the whole scam! But Songwronger hasn't got it quite right, so here's the scoop: Remember that UFO that went down in New Mexico some decades back? The bodies that were recovered? And how the Air Force tried so desperately to cover up the whole incident, claiming it was nothing but a weather balloon that had blown off course? I have it on good authoriy that Barack Obama (by whatever name) was cloned from alien tissue and grew up in Hangar 51 where his positronic brain was programmed by subspace transmissions from Phltzlfroomp, the fourth planet of Wolf 359. And what is his mission, you may ask? Rather than national and international implications, his real mission is of interplanetary importance. It has to do with the life-threatening shortage on the home planet of the Phltzlfroompians of orange Jell-O embedded with miniature marshmallows. Without this, all civilization would collapse in the same way that our economy, and then our civilzation, would collapse if we suddenly ran out of oil, gas, beer, and Big Macs simultaneously. Once the plans have reached fruition (so to speak) and Obama (by whatever name) has laid the groundwork, little green men will land, storm all gatherings of church luncheons put on by the the Lutheran Ladies' Guilds, and make off with all the Jell-O salads. If you think that's horrifying, the aliens are planning to assault the Southern Baptist Leadership Conference by replacing all the water in their baptismal fonts with Wild Turkey studded with real, live wild turkeys! And they think that's funny!! Oh, the horror of it all!! It is good that you tremble for the future of our planet! Don Firth P. S. And how do I know all this? Ever since my last trip to the dentist, whenever I heat up a cup of cold coffee in the microwave oven, I receive the latest bulletins on my new filling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 03 Apr 13 - 12:57 AM You Obamafuscate the issue, Mr. Firth. Is Obama a Fascist? I say yes. I think the only non Fascist president in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter. I think these days an Amerikan president has to be a Fascist. Or he doesn't get to be president |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Songwronger Date: 03 Apr 13 - 01:10 AM Yes, the name calling and conspiracy accusations will be flowing freely on this one. But why? The fascism is so in-your-face. I'll go into the two articles point by point I guess, later. Time for you Obamanoids to fess up to what you've brought on the country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 13 - 01:12 AM Pop quiz: There are a couple of different political systems that go by the name of "Fascism," and most people who go around labelling this person or that system as "Fascist" not only don't know the distinctions, but they don't even know where the name came from. Contrary to popular belief, Nazi Germany was not really a "Fascist" country. Anybody tell me the distinctions? (And, yes, I know, but does anybody else out there, especially those who like to toss the word around?) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 13 - 01:15 AM You have plenty of time to work on it, because I'm logging off. It's my bed time. Ta ta! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: artbrooks Date: 03 Apr 13 - 01:17 AM Did someone already say YAWN? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Apr 13 - 01:40 AM Posted from another thread that NOBODY wanted to even acknowledge...so here it is again.................!!!! "by the way, to get this piece of crap passed, this bill is being very quietly slipped into the Democratic Budget Proposal Now I know I ruffle some feathers, of the phony left from the bogus notion that today's 'so-called liberals' are not really wolves, in sheep's clothing, and really are more fascist than they would ever admit....but: Those who say he is not a fascist please explain this........Don??? " Have fun explaining it away!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Amos Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:07 AM This is just horseshit. If Obama were a fascist, he would be able to get stuff done which he has been blocked from by the obfuscatrial a-holes in the Repub sector. Why, he would have taken all your guns by now and forced you all to marry lesbians who smoke pot and provide abortions, and much, much more! That proves he's not a fascist. Surely you can see that? It's plain as day! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Richard Bridge Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:26 AM Why are fewer people posting here? A prize example of the twats driving sensible people away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: michaelr Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:26 AM Don't mince words, Amos, tell us how you really feel! I'm pretty sure we had this exact same thread, from the exact same OP, a few months ago. So... OK: Yes, Songwronger, you're right. Anyone can see it. There is no question. Can we stop talking about it now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 03 Apr 13 - 03:09 AM Namecalling, Mr. Bridge. Uncalled for and against the rules. You must be the change you wish to see. Set an example for the rest of us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: bobad Date: 03 Apr 13 - 07:41 AM Yer goddamn right he is a fascist and I'm going to report you and your fart catcher NB to his gestapo and it will be off to the gulag with the both of you.....and a damned good riddance I say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 03 Apr 13 - 08:50 AM Is he a florist? Dyslexics of the world untie... :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Lighter Date: 03 Apr 13 - 08:58 AM CNN reported this morning that 13% of Americans believe that O is the Antichrist, with 13% more not quite sure. But 15% think the moon landings were a hoax, and 12% think the Government places "secret mind-control technology" in radio and TV broadcasts to keep the masses in their place. Of course, it's always more fun to say you believe this stuff than that you don't, so perhaps only about 1 in every 20 or 25 American adults think O is the Antichrist instead of 1 in 9. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 03 Apr 13 - 12:23 PM I agree about the "'mind-control technology' in radio and TV broadcasts to keep the masses in their place", but it's not really secret and it's not put there by the government. It's called "advertising", and it seeks to keep the masses in big box retail stores, fast food restaurants, and auto dealers' showrooms. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:02 PM Nobody addressed Don Firth's question, yet... ...nor mine..... Give it a shot. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:48 PM I see that no one has come up with answers to my little quiz yet. What does the word "Fascist" mean, why was Hitler not precisely a fascist, who invented the term, and what is it derived from? < Forrest Gump >"My mama always told me, 'Don't use a word if you don't know what it means.'" < /Forrest Gump > I'll supply the answers a bit later. But for now: A couple two or three years ago, there was a person here who billed himself as "ichMael," pretty much a take-off on the opening line of Moby Dick, "Call me Ishmael." Probably also just moving the "M" in "Michael" in three spaces. Cute. Anyway, this "ichMael" posted vast quantities of really vicious anti-Obama propaganda, much of which was of the rankest sort. He would even link people to a web site that apparently he had started called "The Mudcat Pages." This web site proclaimed that Obama was not born in the United States, he was born in Kenya, he was a Muslim, that his father had dozens of wives, that Obama's mother was a "whore," and just about anything else he could think of to denigrate President Obama and his family, including a photograph showing a skinny man in a dancer's leotard hugging another man. Whoever the skinny man was, he had Obama's head crudely Photoshopped on top of his body (bad job; anybody with his head at that angle from his body is going to have serious neck problems). This, of course, was alleged to be incontrovertible proof that Obama is gay. This "ichMael" was a real nut-case! Then, he went away. Now, I can't be absolutely sure, but I have a strong suspicion that he's back! Only now, he's calling himself "Songwronger." The verbiage, the writing "style," and the subject matter are all exactly the same. I am reminded of the outpourings of a group that calls itself "The Aryan Brotherhood of Texas." No kidding!! There IS such a group, believe it or not! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 03 Apr 13 - 03:40 PM Swift Glance. OP Songwronger! F**k it! More CRAP! Ignore. Bye |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 03 Apr 13 - 04:31 PM Is President Obama a NASCAR Driver? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Amos Date: 03 Apr 13 - 06:12 PM Fasces, Latin, a bundle of sticks tied together. Fascism, a governmental model based onf radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in mid-20th century Europe. Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community,relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles. Most modern definitions include Hitler as well as Mussolini and Franco in their examples of fascism and describe it in opposition and contradistinction to communism and some other socialistic models. Benito Mussolini, the leader of the Fascist government of Italy, described it as follows: "Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism -- born of a renunciation of the struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have courage to meet it. All other trials are substitutes, which never really put men into the position where they have to make the great decision -- the alternative of life or death.... ...The Fascist accepts life and loves it, knowing nothing of and despising suicide: he rather conceives of life as duty and struggle and conquest, but above all for others -- those who are at hand and those who are far distant, contemporaries, and those who will come after... ...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society...." A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 03 Apr 13 - 06:23 PM Is President Obama a jar of chunky salsa? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Songwronger Date: 03 Apr 13 - 06:47 PM I'm not a gay Aryan, and I posted the working definition of fascism in the original post. Fascism, n.: A political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism). That's the one I've been using since the first post. Here's proof of fascism from #8 in the original post. "Control the Press." Reading News Online A Criminal Offence? During his first term, President Barack Obama declared October 2009 to be "National Information Literacy Awareness Month," emphasizing that, for students, learning to navigate the online world is as important a skill as reading, writing and arithmetic. It was a move that echoed his predecessor's strong support of global literacy—such as reading newspapers—most notably through First Lady Laura Bush's advocacy. Yet, disturbingly, the Departments of Justice (DOJ) of both the Bush and Obama administrations have embraced an expansive interpretation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) that would literally make it a crime for many kids to read the news online. And it's the main reason why the law must be reformed. As we've explained previously, in multiple cases the DOJ has taken the position that a violation of a website's Terms of Service or an employer's Terms of Use policy can be treated as a criminal act. And the House Judiciary Committee has floated a proposal that makes the DOJ's position law, making it a crime to access a website for any "impermissible purpose." http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/reading-news-online-a-criminal-offense/31296/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Amos Date: 03 Apr 13 - 07:37 PM This is more of your same style of bull, SW. The act does not make reading news online a criminal offense. This is just hyperbolic panic-mongering with a complete absence of discrimination on your part. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 03 Apr 13 - 07:42 PM Is President Obama the terms of agreement of a Hearst publication? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 13 - 10:09 PM Pour yourself a cup of coffee or pop open a beer. This is a long one. I'm on a rant. First, Amos gets an A+. From an article in a book on political science on my bookshelves: Fascism is a philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged.Benito Mussolini described Fascism as a "bundle" or "unit" made up of the corporations and the government. Essentially one and the same. Hence, the use of the old Roman symbol of the fasces, from which Fascism derives its name. Mussolini said that the fasces is a perfect symbol, since it is a bundle of sticks tied around a battle-axe. All acting as a unit, they are far stronger than they would be if acting separately. The sticks symbolize the corporations, and the axe symbolizes the power of the government. Where Hitler differed from other Fascist leaders and Fascist states was in the racism of Nazi Germany. The idea that Germans were of the Aryan race, and all other races had to go. Non-Aryans were the source of all society's ills. Hence, the death camps. To Mussolini and Franco, the other major Fascist leaders, this didn't seem to matter that much (although in the mid-1930s, Mussolini did crap all over Ethiopia, but that was not essentially a racial thing. He had designs on East Africa). Hitler characterized his government as "National Socialism." Socialism is a system whereby "the people" own the tools of production and share in the profits thereof. Under National Socialism, the government owns the tools of production. He was a bit fuzzy about who gets the profits. The United States is a system of regulated Capitalism, the idea of which is to glean the advantages of Capitalism, but not let the corporations run rampant to the point where the country slides into Fascism. In the 1930s, Franklin Delano Roosevelt stomped on the slide toward Fascism by starting regulatory agencies such as the Securities Exchange Commission, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Federal Communications Commission, the National Labor Relations Act, and The Fair Labor Standards Act (among other things, establishing minimum wages). He also instituted the Works Projects Administration and the Civilian Conservation Corps to put people back to work, build the country's infrastructure, and put money in peoples' pockets, particulary money they have to spent right away on things like food and rent, which would put the money back into circulation and immediately stimulate a very sick economy. He also ended poor houses and poor farms and provided security (referred to back then as the "old age pension") for the elderly by creating the Social Security Administration. Some of these regulatory agencies kept the bankers and financiers from continuing to fleece the public, and made them generally behave themselves. The people loved him! They voted him back in for a total of an unprecedented four terms. But Wall Street seethed. And plotted. It took them awhile but— This may sound strange, but a giant step toward turning the U. S. into a Fascist country was made by Ronald Reagan, who began systematically castrating the regulatory agencies by replacing the commissioners with people from the very businesses they were supposed to regulate. I've said it before and I'll say it again: a classic example of putting the foxes in charge of the chicken coop. Another, and more obvious giant step is "Citizens United," giving corporations free reign to buy politicians by the bulk! ======= I am not happy with Obama. He equivocates and tries to compromise with people who will NOT compromise. But in the last two presidential elections, he was the only viable candidate who was NOT hell-bent on continuing the gallop toward that amalgam of corporations and government which is known as FASCISM. What this country needs is another Franklin D. Roosevelt. Or at least, someone with real guts and determination, like old "give 'em hell" Harry Truman. Thus endeth the sermon for today! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 03 Apr 13 - 11:11 PM Finally. Mr. Firth admits he doesn't like Prez al-Obama either. Very gratifying to hear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 04 Apr 13 - 12:00 AM That's not an absolute, Mr. Bastard. I much prefer him to the alternatives. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 04 Apr 13 - 12:08 AM What's so bad about the Greens? They are an alternative. They aren't owned by the Banksters, either. You can't say that about our current leader. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 04 Apr 13 - 12:13 AM You will note that, above, I said viable candidates. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Ron Davies Date: 04 Apr 13 - 12:58 AM Look , the answer to the burning question posed by the illustrious OP is: No. Now, let's let the thread die--or let the OP carry on a conversation only with people who agree with him: that is; a soliloquy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Don Firth Date: 04 Apr 13 - 01:16 AM Right, Ron. I've said what I have to say on this ridiculous subject. For those who didn't get it the first time, reread. Let Songwronger, Niggardly Bastard, and Goofballupagus twist in the wind. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Apr 13 - 01:35 AM ...or something like...... Hey Don, your 'twisting in the wind' comment was really inapplicable...I've been sitting this one out..other than to provide a link that Obama signed the Monsanto Immunity deal, and the Democrats are slipping it into their budget proposal...and that's true..then on the Republican side, they have abolishing Obamacare...both bills favor corporate/government linkage....Obamacare might have been better as a single payer plan.....but NOOOOO....that would have left out the insurance/bankster/big pharma out of their profits. So take it easy....put up thy sword....or sit on it..but you can ease off....OK? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 04 Apr 13 - 03:26 AM To be a viable candidate you have to be owned by the Banksters. Sounds Fascist to me. As a matter of fact, your definition of Fascism has me convinced more than ever that Herr Obama is a Fascist, Mr. Firth. And that Amerika is a Fascist Empire. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Apr 13 - 10:43 AM Exactly. Whether Mr Obama is a Fascist or not is not really the thing to be debating here, because it's just a label, and a person cannot be summed up in a label. The important point is, though, that he's the president of a Fascist military empire that is quite obviously trying to dominate the entire world and be the sole Superpower and the arbiter of the human race's collective destiny, and for what??? For the benefit of the oligarchy of rich elites who run that empire. Obama is their errand boy. Or maybe he's their prisoner. Or their handpicked man? I'm not sure which, and there's no way to know if one can't get inside his head and know his actual thoughts. Be sure of one thing, though. He's temporary. Same as Bush. You'll all have someone else to fight about after Obama is gone. He's just the temporary tip of the iceberg, and it's the rest of the iceberg you have to worry about...the part you don't see. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Apr 13 - 11:28 AM Absolutely CORRECT!!! It doesn't matter what his 'personal beliefs' are, he's just a puppet figurehead, so people 'debate' about 'his' policies, and keep their eyes off what is really going on and who it is who is really running the show! This guy came up out of nowhere, no track record, no legislation, vague schooling records, hardly a voting record...but sorta black.....just the perfect candidate to be fawned over by a vast majority of 'so-called' racist liberals, who didn't care about his credentials...just so long as he was 'sorta black'..that way they THOUGHT we were making progress...and just so one of those wannabe racist crusaders don't come jumping in blathering about me being a racist, frankly I don't care about what color he is...he has been a phony all along, and his track record of lying only rivals Jodi Arias...or is that the other way around. ...but he's sorta black...big deal ....he's a Democrat...as if Democrats, weren't in the pocket of bankster/corps ..and he's a somewhat smooth talker....for the easily conned...(shit, I think I'd rather listen to a used car salesman....or even a Jehovah Witness. This guy is a fraud, funded by the Bank of London, to do EVERYTHING that the Dems thought Bush or Romney was about...and you know why?...They're ALL on the same team!....ACTORS! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Stringsinger Date: 04 Apr 13 - 11:54 AM I think there is a more important question. Is the U.S. becoming a fascist nation? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 04 Apr 13 - 11:56 AM Like I said. So much like Reagan it's scary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Apr 13 - 12:09 PM Definite "yes" to that, Stringsinger. It's been happening for a long time too, not just since Ronald Reagan, but Reagan gave American fascism a major boost in the 1980s. Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama have all added further volumes to it since then. If there'd been someone as incompetent and dangerously stupid as Ronald Reagan in charge of the Soviet Union during the 1980s, I think we'd all be dead now...and our remains would be highly radioactive. Thank Mikhail Gorbachev that it didn't happen! If not for him, it probably would have. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Apr 13 - 08:44 PM Is it BECOMING a Fascist nation...NO!....it's been going on since November 22, 1963! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Ebbie Date: 04 Apr 13 - 09:45 PM You know what? There's nothing scarier to me than people who are totally convinced they are correct. And you know what, further? I am not speaking of Mr. Obama. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist? From: Bobert Date: 04 Apr 13 - 10:01 PM Just to follow up on what Ebbie has said... There is a reason why folks ain't posting here at Mudcat, at least below the line... That reason is that it has become Songwronger's private shit hole... It's about karma... There's a song I used to do that was written by _____________??? It was about people who kill others and "collect their teeth" and then goes "I don't want to walk were he walked"... I have lost respect for people I thought were cool... I have been absolutely beaten down with this steady drum beat of hate and folks who I thought were above mob mentalities jumping in like brown shirts... What has this joint become??? The fascists are the "classless and free" who go along with brown shirt Songwronger... If yo go to the the thread about why people don't post here too much anymore then I'll answer it... No, I don't want the classless and free fascists preaching to me about how cool they are and how anything less than Ryn Rand and "mad Max After the Thunder Dome" is their idea of a perfect world... I mean, I don't mind wrestling with folks I respect but, geeze louise... Too much songwronger coolaide here, for me... Enjoy ya'll's little right wing fascist circle jerk... BYE... Bobert (signing out of this wacko ward) |