Help with sneaky advertising, please!!

Subject: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:17 AM

An interesting technical problem has beeen brought to my attention. Let's, purely hypothetically, that there is a dormant thread called "Review: new Boat Band fan". And say I played in this hypothetical band, and say I hada trace on this thread, and could find it in my personal pages. Now I could bring this thread up for general attention by posting "refresh" to it, and there it would be at the top of the list. But people might see my name as the author of the post and say "Look, Greg is trying to flog his bloody CDs again". So, say I disable my cookie, preparatory to posting"refresh" under the pseudonym of "GUEST:discerning music-lover". But, with a disabled cookie I cant get into my personal pages to access the thread. And as far as I can see, that's it, impasse. Because I think the recent threads havent been indexed yet, if that is the correct term. So there's no way to find it. Now, I dont have a computer(I have cable tvaccess). Perhaps there is an answer to this problem with a computer? Or even with my technology, but I just don't know the route to follow.
Well, there's the question. Purely hypothetical, as I say. Does it have an answer?

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: MMario
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:25 AM

while cookied - pull the thread up to read it - that will give you the url of the thread - cut and paste it somewhere...

crush your cookie and dispose of it.

pop the url of the thread into your browser - post as cookieless

OR

ask someone else to refresh it for you?

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:29 AM

(1) you find the thread via Personal Pages. (2) you remember (write down) a distinctive word (or: words) from the title ('new' would be a bad choice) (3) You disable your cookie (or use the Internet Cafe nearby) (4) you enter the string of words in the Forum Search (the one via 'quick links' and not the Digitrad and Forum search) under the heading 'Subject' and hit submit. (5) you find the thread and add a rousing comment. (6) You go back and refind you cookie.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:56 AM

Vaaairy interesting. I dont think I have the technology for what you describe.Mmario, but Wolfgang's stuff has a little wriggle in it that I didnt know. Thank you both.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:00 AM

Actually it's much simpler. Just post as yourself and refresh away.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:04 AM

OK, but if you want to be a bit subtle, you know....

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:09 AM

Greg Stephens said:

"But people might see my name as the author of the post and say, 'Look, Greg is trying to flog his bloody CDs again'."

Well, they would be right, wouldn't they?

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:27 AM

How many do you want Dave? Christmas is coming, and Auntie Edna would love one.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:32 AM

I think it's okay to refresh as yourself, too, but if you really don't like to, the easiest solution is to come back in, cookieless, enter a keyword or phrase, exactly as it is in the title of the thread, in the search box at the top of the threads. Then, use the drop down menu next to that to set the date back far enough that it will catch it and hit GO. If you have spelled things just like the title and gone back far enough that should bring it up. It does not have to be the complete title. I would suggest using the most uncommon of whatever words, i.e. Boat.

Now, I'm off to see what the adverts are about!*bg*

kat

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:42 AM

Or just bookmark the thread and use the bookmark to go there.

~S~

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 01:43 PM

Thanks for help. The trouble is, Katlaughing, what you describe doesnt work for recent threads, as far as I can see .The problem I was having (with searching for a couple of recent threads) led to my query . I wasnt really trying to do sneaky advertising (otherwise I wouldnt have said I was trying to do sneaky advertising). I just thought that was agood exercise in searching etc that cleverer people than me might help with. And it worked: of the many suggestions, Wolfgang's was perfect. you can search recent threads with the quicklinks search, but not with the digitrad and forum search (as far as I can see).
An interesting side-benefit from Wolfgang's tip is I have figured out a way to read long threads which was formerly impossible. It's very laborious (you have to access each individual message separately via a 3-step process); but it can be done. Yippee! Thanks, Wolfgang.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: Bert
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 02:13 PM

Mmario's cut and paste idea is probably the quickest. But us Mudcatters don't mind if you push your CD, so go for it.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 02:26 PM

My problem is that of the cabletv internet people here, who cant cut and paste. Not evryoneon Mudcat has a computer.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:58 PM

Right click and properties and copy and paste to Wordprocessor. maybe surround with blah blah but email to yourself in html . Now cut and paste from the email. Now there are easier ways on a PC but I would bet that would work on your TV as long as the apps had cut and paste and right click equivalents.
whaddayareckon?
Of course there is another way but Joe doesn't approve.
Anyway are the Boat band doing any gigs down in the Bristol area soon?

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:10 PM

Well I tend to think I couldnt do what youre saying, but I there a number of words inn your post I dont understand so I'm not sure. Please send a secret message with the BAD THING that Joe doesnt like. Re Bristol: email the Bristol Cajun Club saying "when is the wonderful Boat Band on next?"

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:12 PM

Use the filter function. Enter boat band

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:49 PM

That's what I meant, the filter function.(Box at the center at the top of the threads) It is designed to work with recent threads. Enter the words as guest says, or even just boat, then set the time back a few days and joila!

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:54 PM

Right, got you, katlaughing and GUEST(hope youre not one of those nasty GUESTS). I'll give that a go.I couldnt figure out the filter function.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:03 PM

Greg, people get upset when there are multiple anonymous "refresh" messages, and rightly so. It seems like somebody's trying to pull something sneaky, or to manipulate the Forum. If you want to refresh, refresh - but do it honestly.
Usually, the Clones and Jeff and I delete "refresh" messages when they no longer serve a purpose.
The Digitrad and Forum Search (SuperSearch) needs to be indexed, but not the Forum Search (search by user & message title) and the Forum (search by thread title) - they're always up-to-date, but search by title information only.
-Joe Offer-

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Of course, it's not sneaky to ask publicly about it - it's just sneaky if you actually do post lots of anonymous refresh messages.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:12 PM

Joe, if I wanted to do something sneaky, as I pointed out earlier, would I ask publicly how todo it? I was having a searching and accessing old message problems and so have a number of other people. I thought of asking that mildly amusing(well I thought so) question in the hope that people would tell me technically how to do it, which has solved all my problems perfectly(including the reading of long threads,though only with extreme difficulty). I'm not trying to subvert Mudcat, honestly.

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:16 PM

greg, today "everyone" knows about this, but later, "they" will be a different group of people who "know" whatever is being talked about on THAT day, and your posting may mislead. It's always best around here just to be yourself, really. You are liked and respected here; no one is going to jump all over you for reminding us about your music. Or if they do they will be idiots! *G*

~Susan

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:17 PM

Thanks again,Katlaughing and GUEST, I've tried what you said and it worked. The only thing I cant do now is post to a long thread. I can pullindividual messages out of a long thread, but I cant get into the thread as a whole to put a message on it.Any theories, anyone?

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:18 PM

Greg, go ahead and keep draggin' it up. If any Mudcatter has a CD out, I want to know about it.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Help with sneaky advertising, please!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:22 PM

Greg,

I think the long thread problem is due to the way cable TV internet works.

The easiest solution would be to buy a PC. You could get something suitable for less than £100 second hand