Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?

Subject: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: *daylia*
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:13 PM

My son told me earlier today that one of my favourite CCR tunes of all time has been banned from public airplay in the US, another casualty of Hurricane Katrina. Can't find any confirmation of this online though. I'm wondering if anyone here knows if it's true?

I finally looked up the lyrics too (after only   *ahem* 30-odd years of mufflin through a few of the words :-) "One eye is taken for an eye" ... wow. Seems not even Fogerty's majorly! happy-sounding artistry can stop the ole spine from shiverin somehow...


CCR - Bad Moon Rising

I see the bad moon rising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
I see bad times today.

Don't go around tonight
Well it's bound to take your life
There's a bad moon on the rise.

I hear hurricanes a blowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

Don't go around tonight
Well it's bound to take your life
There's a bad moon on the rise.
All right

Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.

Words/Music by John Fogerty

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Beer
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:29 PM

I sure hope that is not true. John Fogerty has had enough problems with recording companies

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:44 PM

If it is in any sense "banned", I suppose it's just by decision of mega-glomerate radio execs; God help us if anyone of authority has really tried to step on it. Truth be, I would hate to think of someone who has just been through the hell in Louisiana sitting down to the radio and having it come on. Just so corporate fools don't try to keep it off the air indefinitely.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Muskratpete
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:59 PM

Been awhile since I was in the radio biz but I can not ever remember any song being banned from airplay, except if it violated the FCC's rules on profanity (like Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words".)

I doubt there's anything to this. Sounds more like an urban legend type of thing.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 11:42 PM

How stupid if true. Been listening to CCR today...damn good stuff.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 12:39 AM

They did it with 'The Hip' song "N'Awlins is Sinking"

Equally dumb...

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 12:41 AM

BULL - SH!T

Nice try *Delia* attempting to make the MudCat and Max Spiegel the SOURCE for another "Urban Legend"

Afraid this one will not fly far from the coo-coo's nest.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 01:30 AM

Gargoyle is correct. Muskratpete is correct.

A particular song may be subject to a particular station or network interdiction at the whim of the executive, but it cannot be banned unless it violates FCC rules.

Surprises me that any one with any knowledge of the music industry would fall for this.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 02:19 AM

Yes, it has the ring of an Urban Legend, but then again there might be some truth in it (of course, that's what an urban legend is). Some of the corporate broadcasting megachains ARE known to have all sorts of weird criteria for selecting songs (or deselecting them). After all, they value music only for its ability to make money. It it might upset somebody, it might not make money.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 09:05 AM

Makes sense, Joe. And what Muskratpete said too. Could be that certain radio stations (or related media moguls) have temporarily dropped the song from playlists. That's what happened in Canada with the Hip's New Orleans is Sinking

Looks like John Fogerty re-signed with Fantasy Records just last week and is soon to release a "career retrospective album" featuring his classics with CCR and on through his solo career. "Bad Moon Rising" is second on the track list for the new album. Maybe that's why the song's in the limelight right now?

Things do appear to be looking up for John Fogerty though, compared with the days when he was being sued for *plagiarizing* his own songs (?!?)   Migod, I'm glad I don't have any more experience with the commercial music industry than I do, or I'd be even more jaded than I am already!

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 09:25 AM

Oh, and GUEST gurgle, didn't your mommy ever burp you???   :-)

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 12:11 PM

Odd how "Bad Moon Risin'" and "New Orleans is Sinking" could be dropped from airplay as being insensitive while Randy Newman's "Louisiana 1927" has been adopted as an anthem. There's not that much difference in content or point-of-view. The only real difference is that "Louisiana 1927" is sung as a ballad which automatically makes it "sensitive" while the other two are upbeat rockers.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: GUEST,TJ
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 09:38 PM

As others have noted, there is simply no organized mechanism for "banning" a song from radio airplay in the US. We don't have a Ministry of Information that sends men in black suits to enforce radio playlists. While it is conceivable that the corporate moneymongers at Clear Channel (which owns a bunch of big commercial stations) could decide not to play a given song, they have no control over anything outside their commercial empire, such as college stations, public radio, and independent broadcasters.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 02:15 AM

I believe John Fogerty is currently on, or about to do an Australian Tour - heard something in passing on the radio today. They were also having a big set of plugs on his old songs too. There was also mention of his new 'retro' album.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: *daylia*
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 02:39 PM

Foolestroupe, apparently John Fogerty is playing in the benefit concert for Katrina victims in New York tomorrow night: FROM THE BIG APPLE TO THE BIG EASY

The lineup includes Elton John, Rod Stewart, Jimmy Buffett, Fats Domino, the Neville Brothers ... (!!!) He's scheduled to tour Australia in Nov.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: *daylia*
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 02:47 PM

Correction - the concert's Sept 20, in Madison Square Gardens. It'll be interesting to note which songs make everyone's playlists, and which do not ...

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 06:48 PM

Yep, another urban legend.   As stated above, there is no way to "ban" a song from public airplay - at least from a government perspective.   It is very possible for the owner of a station to blacklist a song if they choose. In this case, just as in the infamous urban legend from 9/11 where Clear Channel was supposed to have banned a list of songs, this is probably more of an instance where station management urges their employees to use common sense and good taste in a terrible situation.   It is routine for networks to pull airline commercials whenever there is a major air disaster. It is also common to have station management remind employees of sensititivy issues during times like these.   Frankly, there are a number of songs that I would not play in the days following Hurrican Katrina, and I work for a non-commercial station that did not send out such reminders.

I'm not a fan of Clear Channel - they have ruined radio in my estimation.   However, I am really against people getting sucked in by these urban legends and creating misdirected illwill. It takes the mind off the real issues.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: Willie-O
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 07:34 PM

I'm going to play at a benefit to raise money for Katrina survivors next week. Thanks for reminding me what to play.

Well what should I do? Learn "My Heart Will Go On"?   

I love Fogerty's music, absolutely the first song I learned to play, about 1970, was "Who'll Stop the Rain". I think he comes closer to the spirit of the Bayou than anyone from El Cerrito California has a right to. And I heard him last Friday on the big benefit show, wherever it was, playing "Born On The Bayou".

I think it's weird that there's this knee-jerk reaction that we should only play music that DOESN'T reflect reality. Come on, what is folk music, or blues music, about again?

Wasn't that a mighty storm?

W-O

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 07:50 PM

With all due respect Willie-O, it sounds like you are having a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. NO ONE suggested banning John Fogarty. There is a huge difference between a radio host giving some thought before playing a song and being told that something is banned. Whether you agree with the choice of the host is your opinion, but don't take it to extreme. You would not want someone to get upset with you if you choose not to play "My Heart Will Go On". Freedom of choice works both ways.

I agree, John Fogarty captures the spirit of the region. One of the bands played his tune on the recent televised benefit (unless you saw a different benefit show, the "Shelter From the Storm" benefit did not feature Fogarty as far as I know.)

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 12:03 AM

It is a known fact that Clear Channel "banned" the Dixie Chicks after their disparaging comments about Bush.

Why not Randy Newman's song? That's a good question. After all, he says "They're trying to wash us away".

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: robomatic
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 12:47 AM

Oh, I've got that song on the brain now. I must now go out and rent "American Werewolf In London" in order to exorcise the tune!

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 09:45 AM

Michael, first of all - you are wrong, Clear Channel did not "ban" the Dixie Chicks.   MANY of the Clear Channel stations made a public statement that the Dixie Chicks would not be aired on their SPECIFIC stations. This was not an edict issed to all over 1200 plus radio stations in the U.S., but I will grant you that many of their stations followed suit.   Also, Cumulus Radio and Cox radio did the same thing. Still, there were and continue to be Clear Channel stations that play the Dixie Chicks.

More than a political statement, it was a business move. Frankly, if you own such a large piece of the pie and your business depends on government support, who are you going to try to favor? What does the Dixie Chicks put in their pocket?

Also, when you are talking about a network deciding not to play a group - that is blacklisting.   It may be semantics, but the way "banning" is referred to usually deals with a thought that there is a government regulation forbidding something.    By drawing attention to urban legends like this, you are taking attention away from the real disturbing power that the F.C.C. has been given since "Nipplegate". Instead of complaining about a song that doesn't get played, people should be outraged by all the fines the F.C.C. has bestowed on stations for uttering certain words.

Clear Channel is run by right-wing idiots who only look at appealing to the lowest common denominator.   I don't support what they did, blacklisting is wrong. I don't care for the power that the F.C.C. is wielding these days, and I am shocked that the public outrage isn't there.   People whine about the Dixie Chicks and miss the boat.

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: *daylia*
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 02:21 PM

"Nipplegate"? Is this re Janet Jackson?   :-)

Clear Channel is run by right-wing idiots who only look at appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Well, if one of Fogerty's classics been "deselected" too, maybe his public anti-war stance has something to do with it? Unfortunately, I've yet to hear this recent offering ...


DEJA VU (ALL OVER AGAIN)

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you try to read the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

Day by day I hear the voices rising
Started with a whisper like it did before
Day by day we count the dead and dying
Ship the bodies home while the networks all keep score

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Could your eyes believe the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

One by one I see the old ghosts rising
Stumblin' 'cross Big Muddy
Where the light gets dim
Day after day another Momma's crying
She's lost her precious child
To a war that has no end

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you stop to read the writing at The Wall
Did that voice inside you say
I've seen this all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again
It's like Deja Vu all over again

John Fogerty
©2004 Cody River Music / ASCAP

Subject: RE: Bad Moon Rising - Katrina casualty?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 02:38 PM

Yes, I was referring to Janet Jackson.