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BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5
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Subject: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 20 May 26 - 11:58 AM There is a known issue with threads that go over 700 posts so this is a new UK politics thread in anticipation of the old one closing. Old one is still available to read here |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 May 26 - 10:01 AM This new thread is quiet so far - does that mean everything has settled down in UK politics, or are you all just at a loss for words (as is the case on this side of the pond)? (Just giving it a boost to be noticed.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 21 May 26 - 10:47 AM There is a bit of a lull while the press regroup to attack the Green Party. They have found that antisemitic doesn't work against a party with a Jewish leader :-D The firt incling I have had is that they wre now jumoing on the TERF bandwagon and claiming that the Greens support transgender folk entering single gender toilets to attack and rape ciswomen... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 21 May 26 - 11:09 AM All ~ nearly action stops due to activities re Burnham's attempt to get elected as an MP for Makerfield Sweeting as a back bencher making his policy statements Starmer and Reeves making Govt policy "going forwards" and cheaper chocolate and free travel during August school hols! Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 22 May 26 - 04:38 AM IMO, many of the labour front bench are puppets or and supporters of Israel, I hope Burnham might be more independent. however at the moment I might vote either the green party or corbyns party depending on individual candidates in my constituency. free travel should be extended to railways for old people as it is in ireland, another good social democratic idea would be to provide free school breakfasts,,children can work better if they are not hungry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 22 May 26 - 01:33 PM Free school break fasts are available to primary aged kids already yes all for free train tickets for OAPs ~ Freedom Riders ~ group been in existence a long time Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: Nigel Parsons Date: 22 May 26 - 01:41 PM "another good social democratic idea would be to provide free school breakfasts,,children can work better if they are not hungry" While it would benefit some pupils it is taking more responsibility from parents, and placing it elsewhere. As a general measure it is not one I would agree with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 23 May 26 - 12:59 AM Now Nigel that comment is a bit harsh for the poor in 2026 UK ~ though I get the point some may well be taking the state for granted Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 23 May 26 - 07:00 AM
There'll always be an overlap. Then there's those* who should do it, but don't, because they don't want people to realise they're poor .... * The inhabitants of Cockbill Street come to mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 24 May 26 - 01:48 AM nigel . it is a principle of paternalistic capitalism feed an animal well and it will work better the reverse princple is portrayed in the song barnyards of delgaty the people that are very good at taking the state for granted are the rich who hire expensive accountants to evade tax As I came in by Turra Market Turra Market for to fee, I fell in wi' a wealthy farmer, The barnyards O' Delgaty. Linten adie toorin adie, Linten adie toorin ee, Linten lowrin, lowrin, lowrin The Barnyards O' Delgaty He promised me the two best horses Ever I set my eyes upon; When I got home to the Barnyards There was nothing there but skin and bone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 24 May 26 - 04:17 AM > the rich who hire expensive accountants to evade tax .... Ah: the alpha freeloaders. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 24 May 26 - 07:15 AM some may be taking the state for granted.......Andrew Mountbatten ....Fergie, a couple of the parker bowles? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 25 May 26 - 09:36 AM imo the website would benefit if the librarian was encouraged to promote it daily on facebook.and promote it on associated groups such as trad music facebook groups |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: Rain Dog Date: 25 May 26 - 01:14 PM That Starmer has a lot to answer for. There was no mention of the VWML in the Labour manifesto. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 25 May 26 - 02:15 PM another reason not to vote for them? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 May 26 - 06:32 AM Dick. Was your post of 25 May 26 - 09:36 AM meant for here or the VWML thread? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 27 May 26 - 09:10 AM Our Rach is considering raising petrol by 2p per litre? Hope not ~any petrol and diesel increases affect everything including food What can be taxed? I still reckon a Capital gains tax on House prices is a good idea ~ devising the calculation would be interesting but I think few would argue that current valuations of housing is too HIGH! Streeting has his own thoughts on this too Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 28 May 26 - 01:46 AM All stops whilst leadership elections for Labour MPs and possible PM fight What on earth is happening ~ of course MPs will be off on their hols if not now shortly Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 28 May 26 - 09:51 AM Youth un employment ~ the unemployment is an issue that was first kicked down the road by employers saying that school leavers were not educated with skills that the employers needed ~ hence they were encouraged to stay at school and university Then Blair brought in payment for education by those students, I think an American idea ~ this is shown to have its faults which have now come home to rest! I wonder whether the help centres and call centres for large businesses with UK customers should have UK based helpers/advisers and not in far distant lands where English is not the first language could be considered or am I being racist? Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 28 May 26 - 12:44 PM > or am I being racist? Practical: I find phone conversations difficult at the best of times, and it's worse with call centres where the wage slaves are punished if they go off-script. Having to decrypt the Mumbai Mumble as well just puts the brown-coloured cherry on top. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 28 May 26 - 05:52 PM I too have suffered these phone calls and they are not pleasant Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 29 May 26 - 02:36 AM What can be taxed? What can be taxed? quote increase betting tax, tobacco tax, alcohol tax to reduce inflation on goods,encourage transport by electric vehicles by canal and rail and by sail where possible |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 29 May 26 - 02:59 AM There are currently about 1,271 zero-emission Heavy Goods Vehicles (HGVs) on UK roads. While this marks a 28% year-on-year increase, it represents a tiny fraction of the total 741,010 HGVs registered nationwide.Electric lorries are gaining serious momentum in the UK, especially for urban and regional distribution. However, the transition presents some hurdles: Pressroom Newsroom Electric Freightway helps drive more than a quarter of UK eHGV registrations Electric Freightway supported 161 of the UK’s 587 zero emission HGV registrations in 2025 – more than a quarter of the total market Electric or ‘eHGV’ registrations rose 171% year-on-year, surpassing 1,000-truck milestone New vehicle models and high-power charging infrastructure continue to accelerate real-world adoption of electric freight |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: r.padgett Date: 29 May 26 - 03:07 AM So Rachel's NI hike are now being reported as having a negative effect on youth employment ~ WE (or right I) said that would happen That first budget sounded the death bells for Rach and Keir ~ why did Labour not sort proper tax measures for the wealthy during last 15 years? Ray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: The Sandman Date: 29 May 26 - 03:16 AM perhaps, because they are being led by the wrong people who are members of the establishment who cow tow to the very rich. we need harold wilson |
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit and other UK politics thread 5 From: peteglasgow Date: 29 May 26 - 04:31 AM if only the trade unions had more power over the labour party policy......i hope andy burnham will give the government a more left and people friendly steer, but i have my doubts - it's all depressingly familiar. some hope with michael foot, tony benn, jeremy corbyn, even ed miliband, then kier liar-starmer and now andy burnham. all of them are victims of the daily mail, the billionaires and the labour right wing. anything progressive -like hope- is ruthlessly suppressed. |
