How to End Racism

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:42 PM

Right on Singen

Exposure to the many cultures that are around us is enriching, we only have to open our minds and hearts and let them in.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:46 PM

Ahhhhh, I thought the title of this thread was "How to End Racism"???

To read David and others posts maybe they have misread the name of this thread as "How to Promote Racism".

You do it quite simple. Generalize about folks based on their race, etrhnic origin or their religion... That's how you promote racism and I'd like to nominate David as "Promoter Extroidinare'"...

Well done, David...

Bravo....

Bobert

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:18 AM

Well, thankfully, 1 Million people voted BNP last year, we have 23 Councillors with more in the bag soon, and at the General Election we came almost consistently 4th everywhere we stood.

Thank god there is 1 voice of the silent majority to stand up for freedom of speech, and for the rights of indigenous folk, and the right not to be bombed by muslim extremists.

Some people live in a dream-world. Face facts, we are being bombed. Bombed by people who believe Allah and Islam as a faith condones their terror attacks.

Is that blaming all Muslims, of course not, that would be silly, but it is the minority who will cause havoc.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: muppett
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:26 AM

Guest I WAS being hypothetical as well

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 05:07 AM

David, here's a simple maths lesson:
1 million is not a majority, silent or otherwise.
But you were right about one thing: "It is the minority who will cause havoc".

Snap!

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 05:18 AM

David Hannam, you represent no silent majority. You represent a vocal minority of racists. I would hope that people here from other parts of the world who may not have heard much about the BNP, read clearly through all of your BS and realise why so many of us in the UK avoid the BNP like the plague.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 05:34 AM

then answer the hypothetical?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: dianavan
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 12:38 PM

"Thank god there is 1 voice of the silent majority to stand up for freedom of speech, and for the rights of indigenous folk..."

Huh???

Indigenous folk of England? Who might that be? Celts, Normans, Saxons or Picts? How many generations must be British before they are considered indigenous?

Are you saying that freedom of speech is only the right of the idigenous folk?

Where are you going with that statement? You certainly sound like a politician. All hype and mumble.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:08 PM

Indigenous folk of England? Who might that be? Celts, Normans, Saxons or Picts? How many generations must be British before they are considered indigenous?

All of the above share european anscestry and they all equally share in similar european heritage and culture. Indeed, we were a nation of immigrants, european immigrants.

Are you saying that freedom of speech is only the right of the idigenous folk?

Where are you going with that statement? You certainly sound like a politician. All hype and mumble.

Indeed, the BNP is the only voice credible, standing up for freedom of speech. It must be nice for you, who never questions seriously the state or its intentions, but for the brave people who question Multi-culturalism, they often face prospect of persecution and imprisonment, hence Nick Griffin on trumped up charges.

God forbid anyone questions multi-culturalism...could there be a worse crime?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:50 PM

Question to your heart's content, David - don't expect to like all the answers though. And when those questions result in murder of innocents, simply because of their different culture, accept the moral responsibility as well.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:00 PM

don't expect to like all the answers though. And when those questions result in murder of innocents, simply because of their different culture, accept the moral responsibility as well.

You do realise i didn't murder innocents right? Are you saying i started the bombings? Or that by asking questions about multi-culturalism it will end in murder?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:17 PM

As I said before, it's extremism that is the problem, not Islam. Here's an extremist fundamentalist Christian website that is thanking God for the London bombings.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:18 PM

Thank God for the bombing of London's subway today - July 7, 2005 - wherein dozens were killed and hundreds seriously injured. Wish it was many more.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:26 PM

Thank God for improvised explosive devices

This particular picket is going to be happening at the funeral of a US soldier killed in Iraq, which is to be held just a few miles down the road from us. The people in this extremist fundamentalist Christian organization are celebrating the killing of this US soldier by an improvised explosive device.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:38 PM

I expect better understanding of his mother tongue from a monoculturalist, David. Moral responsibility is what I referred to, not committing murder itself. The simple, and unavoidable, moral responsibility for spreading the hate that results in the axe being buried in Anthony Walker's skull.

Perhaps you did not instigate the events that resulted in that murder. Perhaps you never even met those that committed it. But you do spread the messages on which their hate is based. So, wash all you like, fella - this one doesn't come off your hands.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 03:09 PM

Well, David, you claiom not to be a racist and only you know your own heart but it was you, wasn't it, that posted the cut and paste research picking out parts of the Koran that were less than flattering.... In doing that you left out the other 99.99% of the Koran that instructs those of Islamic Faith to be good, loving people... When folks here pointed out that the Bible indeed had some less than flattering parts you dismissed those arguements...

You can't have it both ways. Either both books instruct man to be good and loving or neither does but you can't say the Koran is evil because of a few passages and the Bible is perfect inspite of a few somewhat questionable passages...

Peace

Bobert

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: jpk
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:47 PM

show me were the koran promotes tolerance,the two do not fit in the same sentence.
plus it is funny,but a large portion of the muslims in the uk are in support of/simpathitic with the terrorists.
the brits have one of the most anti brit muslim mouth pieces on the public dole.
and they promote diversity,so as to accomodate some of the least tolerant peoples around.
and carol,you can give them everything they demand,but they will not stop untill you bow at there feet in subjugation,particularly those like you[a female,not even worth as muce as a skinny cow]there believe not mine.
when we went to saudi in the first go,the thing that the saudis were afriad of was that women giving orders to the men might be disturbing to the saudi people[one thing in many involving women]
maybe this islam stuff has merit,we can use it to put women uder our thumbs in submission were they belong.[not my belief thiers].

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:49 PM

For once, jpk, how about showing some sources for your assertions. It looks to me like you're just making stuff up to suit your arguments.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: jpk
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 05:06 PM

read something besides the internet for a change carol,try the national reveiw,the nation,atlantic,discover,forbes,bussiness week,mcclains,etc.try expanding your veiw alittle,and you can see some other points of veiw,and please don't forget you can add a new cultural hero to your list of mao,ho chi,castro,his henchman che[i've seen a lot of t's with his pic on them of late],pol pot,etc.
his name is mugabe in zimbabwa,he is making castro and pot look like kittins,add him to your list of famous people to admire[in there with saddam and osama].

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:57 PM

You show your true colors when you throw around those kinds of accusations against me, jpk. You're just throwing little tantrum because you can't back up your assertions with any credible documentation. You just make it all up as you go along and pitch a fit when you get called on it.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 10:55 PM

Normal, Carol....

There are several folks around this joint who feel they are entitled to proclaim anything theyu want to proclaim and the rsst of us should just accept it as factual???

Like what is it with these folks???

All I have observed is it is these same folks who continue to justify dividin' folks rather than findin' common ground....

Bobert

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: dianavan
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 11:32 PM

This is how good government combats racism:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050804.wjean0804/BNStory/National/

Congratulations to Michaelle Jean!!!!!!

A Haitian refugee who speaks five languages and is a woman of colour.

We need more role models like her.

Hats off to Martin for appointing her.

BTW David - What makes you so different than the Immans who preach hatred? Why don't you try doing something positive so that people can attempt to live in harmony?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:05 AM

When folks here pointed out that the Bible indeed had some less than flattering parts you dismissed those arguements...

I'm still waiting for those biblical quotes.

As i said, the Bible makes some very outdated references, and is barbaric in someways, however, Western Christianity has progressed, become tolerant, adapteds its message to wider audience. It does not preach quotes like:

Qur'an 8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes."


All i am saying is that Islam, as a faith needs to progress to a more modern and tolerant standing. It is currently regressive. Now for Critisizing Islam, Carol would have it that i am a 'hate-monger', but in fact critical analysis is what makes us a good society. The freedom to speak out on matters than each person thinks warrants opinion.

Also, bear in mind, that threads such as these may not be permitted in the near future, all in the name of multi-culturalism and equality, we will see how many of us like having our freedom curtailed then.

I expect better understanding of his mother tongue from a monoculturalist, David. Moral responsibility is what I referred to, not committing murder itself. The simple, and unavoidable, moral responsibility for spreading the hate that results in the axe being buried in Anthony Walker's skull.

Perhaps you did not instigate the events that resulted in that murder. Perhaps you never even met those that committed it. But you do spread the messages on which their hate is based. So, wash all you like, fella - this one doesn't come off your hands.

Erm..No. Equally, i could say you, the pro-multiculturalist, were responsible for the deaths of Kriss Donald, a white lad murdered by Muslim racists. Here are just a few. In fact, i do blame the pro-multiculturalists, so wash your hands all you like, fella, but these don't come off your hands.

Fred Carter 64, 13 July 1993 New Cross, South London. Battered to the ground, kicked and jumped on in a lift by a black named Junior Samuel.
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Mark Sharp 39, 1993 Luton, Bedfordshire. A family man killed in a road rage attack by Asians. The suspected killer, Abdul Abedin, fled the country to Bangladesh which has no extradition treaty with Britain. A warrant for his arrest was issued but a Bangladeshi High Commission spokesman said "We have no extradition treaty with Britain. It can only be done on goodwill now. It depends on how serious the British government is."
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Annie Castle 74, 22 August 1993 Bethnal Green, East London. Mrs Castle was a great-grandmother who had lived in the East End all her life. One night a Negro broke into her flat and tied up her friend Billy Bryan and tore the rings off her fingers, she suffered a heart attack and died on the spot.
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Billy Bryan 71, 22 August 1993Bethnal Green, East London. Mr Bryan had been staying with Mrs Castle on the night that Black intruder entered her flat. Elderly Mr Bryan was found the next morning lying on the floor, dead with his hands and feet bound. He had died of a massive heart attack. Police never found the black murderer.
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PC Patrick Dunne 44, 20 October 1993 Clapham. Local Clapham community officer PC Patrick Dunne was attending a minor domestic disturbance across the street at 28 Cato Road when he heard the sound of gunfire. As he went outside to investigate he was shot once in the chest. Three blacks left the scene laughing and firing shots into the air in triumph. He was pronounced dead on arrival at St. Thomas's Hospital.
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Philip Gosling 13, February 1994 Handsworth, Birmingham. Young Philip was the only white boy in his class, and was one of only five whites out of 500 at Handsworth Wood Boys' school. He was constantly racially bullied and had been burned on the neck with a match and threatened with a knife. He was chased into the path of a van by a gang of Asians from the school and killed.
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Emmanuel Hand 35, 15 May 1994 Holloway Tavern, Holloway Road. London N7. Warren Mathurin (also known as Warren Desmangles, now 43), of Jamaican parents, was sitting at the bar and insulting bar staff and asked to leave. He ran home, returning with a knife with a 9-inch blade and loudly challenged the Ulsterman landlord to come outside. Emmanuel did and Mathurin stabbed him three times in the heart. As Emmanuel was carried to the ambulance the already over-powered Mathurin taunted him "I warned you Manny, I warned you."
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Richard Everitt 15, August 1994 Kings Cross London NW1. Schoolboy known as a gentle giant attacked by a gang of Bengalis (East Pakistanis). Stabbed to death. Main suspects helped to escape to Bengal by their families and community. One gang member in prison for assault, an active 'Justice for Kings Cross One' campaign operating to get him released. Warrants still in operation for the murderers. Richard's family refused admittance to Bengali protest meeting in Camden Town Hall, trying to speak on Richard's behalf.
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Leslie Watkinson 66, 9 December 1994 Peckham, South London. Former Salvation Army major killed for his pension by three black youths, ran away shouting "I bust his head." Killers never found.
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Frank Dempsey 56, 7 February 1995South London. Had pleurisy, spat on ground, passing black youth turned round shouting abuse and stabbed him. Killer never found.
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Brian Harvey 31, 1 August 1998 Walthamstow, East London. Brian was playing pool in the Churchill snooker club with his brother, when an Asian in his mid 20s, in an unprovoked attack, slashed him across his jugular vein. Police described it as an execution-style killing.
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Peter Harvey 26, 1 August 1998 Walthamstow, East London. Peter was eating at the bar of the snooker club with his girlfriend watching his brother Brian enjoy a game of pool. When the Asian slashed his brother, Peter went to his assistance and was also cut across the jugular vein. Both men where described as decent and hard working and devoted to their elderly widowed mother.
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Winifred Sills 79, 1 May 2000 Manor Park, East London. Miss Sills was returning home from a trip to the shops, using a walking frame as she was very frail. A 15 year old 6ft tall Asian hit her from behind for her handbag, which contained less than a pound. She hit her head against a car as she fell to the ground and went into a coma later that day. She never regained consciousness and died two weeks later at Newham General Hospital from a massive brain haemorrhage. The Asian murderer bragged, laughed and joked about the attack and got a short sentence for manslaughter.
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Elizabeth Amlot 39, 1 February 2001 Woodside Park, North London. Miss Amlot was returning from a New year party when Turkish Kurd asylum- seeker Sertan Balci dragged her into an alley, punched her to the ground and repeatedly kicked her. She died a month later in hospital. After his trial it was discovered that Balci had carried out a series of sex ambushes.
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Daisy Fenton 88, 30 March 2001 South London. Mugged and knocked to the ground for £2.00's worth of groceries. Black Michael Manning got 7 years for killing 4ft 10ins tall, six & half stone Daisy, who needed the aid of a walking stick. He left her with 5 broken ribs, fractures to the nose, cheek, arm and breast bone. She suffered for three days before she died.
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Rosie Ross 16, 12 May 2001 Birmingham city centre. Rosie a policeman's daughter was stabbed to death by a mad Asian Inderjit Kainth.
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Hilda Lockert 86,15 May 2001 Brixton, South London. Mrs Lockert was hurled down the stairs of her block by two black youths, who mugged her for £15 and her bus pass. She had been mugged on her estate six times before.
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Anne Cypher 42, 19 May 2001 Wandsworth, South London. Anne, a mother of three, was working as a manageress of Players Snooker Club. One evening Negro crack addict Robert Alleyne entered the club and savagely bludgeoned her to death with a bar stool, after which he stole the £200 float from the till. She received 19 injuries to her head and body. Amanda Clarke was also fatally wounded (see separate entry). Three days later Alleyne hung himself in his flat. Good riddance.
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Amanda Clarke 32, 26 May 2001 Wandsworth, South London. Amanda was a friend of Anne Cypher and herself a mother of two teenage children. Negro villain Robert Alleyne, 36, also bludgeoned her in the robbery of the Players Snooker Club, where she was found lying in the foyer. She died in hospital of a fractured skull seven days after the attack.
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Ross Parker 17, 23 September 2001 Peterborough, Cambridgeshire. Kicked and stabbed to death by at least eight Asians, by the time his girlfriend had returned with the police young Ross was dead. R.I.P.   FULL STORY
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Kevin Jackson 31, 1 January 2002 Halifax, West Yorkshire. Kevin, a father of two young children, was stabbed outside his home while chasing a gang of Asians who were trying to steal his father-in-law's car. Raees Khan, Rashad Zaman and Rangzaib Akhtar have been arrested and charged with his murder.
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Anthony O'Brien 24, 27 January 2002 Walworth, South London. Stabbed outside the George IV pub by a black 6ft tall mid-20s. Police still hunting attacker.
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Owain Leeson 17, 14 February 2002 Sheffield city centre. A row broke out on a dancefloor which continued in the Uropa nightclub's rear car park. Owain was beaten around the head and face then stabbed with a large knife. He bled to death from his injuries. The group of people involved were described as aged late teens to mid 20s and of Asian or mixed race appearance. The killer is still being sought.
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Gavin Hopley 19,16 February 2002 Oldham. Gavin was not from Oldham but from Rochdale and had been for a night out in Oldham town centre. When he wanted to return home he couldn't get a taxi so walked in the hope of flagging one down. Unknown to him he strayed into the Asian area of Glodwick which is a no-go area for whites. For that mistake he was beaten to death by a gang of 12 Asians.
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Kriss Donald 15, October 2004, Scotland. Kriss was attacked by Muslim Racists, abducted, driven around Scotland, beaten, mutilated, stabbed and burned alive.
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Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:08 AM

BTW David - What makes you so different than the Immans who preach hatred? Why don't you try doing something positive so that people can attempt to live in harmony?

Well, for one i don't preach hatred. That ok? And..i don't rally for murder, terrorism, etc? That ok?

What a silly question.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:20 AM

That stung, David, eh? Otherwise why produce such a long list of black-on-white crimes in reaction to my one white-on-black, as if either could justify the other? They are all equally despicable, and all caused by one culture wishing to impose itself on others, or wishing to be by itself = i.e. monoculturalism. The way I see it, you just shot yourself another dozen times in the foot.

Multiculturalism does not breed crime, it breeds tolernace. That tolerance may occasionally be taken advantage of by the monoculturalists, but it certainly does not create them.

Dress it any way you like, David, you're a long way from being persuasive.

Must try harder.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 05:26 AM

Nice list DH. Keep it up. It only serves to show what a racist you are.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 05:36 AM

That stung, David, eh? Otherwise why produce such a long list of black-on-white crimes in reaction to my one white-on-black, as if either could justify the other?....." "The way I see it, you just shot yourself another dozen times in the foot.

Shot myself in the foot? Not really, i gave my opinion on the evil murder of Anthony Walker below eariler, i said killing someone for the colour of their skin is sick.See below. Do you agree?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 01:32 PM

Agree EL Greko, as harrowing as the case of Kriss Donald who was murdered and tortured in the back of a car and set on fire and body dumped. It was an Muslim on white attack. Killing someone for the colour of their skin is sick, sick and sick.

One certainly does not justify the other. How could they, both are a product of a failing society. What you don't understand, therefore i will explain it to you, is that the BNP provides a legal political outlet for people not happy with multi-culturalism to express their feelings. That is where people should express their opinions, and that is what they do.

The racist scum who killed Kriss Donald or Anthony Walker are in a different league, and under a BNP government would quite likely face the death penalty.

They are all equally despicable, and all caused by one culture wishing to impose itself on others, or wishing to be by itself = i.e. monoculturalism.

Ah, now here we agree. Agreed, one culture will always wish to impose itself as the dominant one, that is human nature, and the nature of a nation with a strong sense of heritage and culture and identity, Muslims have this strong culture, so did we once, though it is now slowly been eroded. Even the attack on public music/singing in our folks clubs which are now curbed through criminal taxes are there to put off that semblance of British Folk History.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 05:43 AM

Nice list DH. Keep it up. It only serves to show what a racist you are.

You are one sick person if you think racist murders of white people makes the person detailing them a racist.

By your reckoning, anyone who used the Stephen Lawrence case as an example of racism is by their own default a 'racist'?

You are disturbed.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 05:51 AM

Not at all, DH. If you were arguing that multiculturism was the casue, you could even argued that way over the black on white killing of Anthony Walker. The fact that you had to make a long list of black on white crimes speaks volumes about you and the BNP.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 05:53 AM

black on white killing of Anthony Walker

white on black of course.

Oh and if I am disturbed, on second sorts, yes I am - by racists.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 09:05 AM

Ever hear of Chinese handcuffs, David???

Your case is gettin' weaker with every attempt to strengthen it... Case studies, while individually may hold someone's interest, are not, in themselves proof of a larger trend...

Anyone who has taken college statistics will tell ya that...

Peace

Bobert

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 10:38 AM

Not at all, DH. If you were arguing that multiculturism was the casue, you could even argued that way over the black on white killing of Anthony Walker. The fact that you had to make a long list of black on white crimes speaks volumes about you and the BNP"

Hmm, so alarming people to the huge numbers of white folk killed by racists speaks volumes about the BNP? Good, i hope it does. Truth is truth.

Your case is gettin' weaker with every attempt to strengthen it... Case studies, while individually may hold someone's interest, are not, in themselves proof of a larger trend...

Well is killing Anthony Walker a racist murder? Of course it is, if the motives were racial. Does the killings of the numerous poor people i referred to above make them racist killings? Of course when the motive is racial.

My case...i have no case, only to say that multi-culturalism is forever doomed and always strife-ridden. Are people like me to blame? Well, presumably, people like me, who question the validity of a multi-cult society are small in numbers, etc, so it is certainly not people like me, it is society, because society will always rebel against enforced tyranny.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,363750,00.html
"Anthony Browne
Sunday September 3, 2000
The Observer

Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100.

It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010"

Do you believe in a white-minority Britain?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,AB
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 10:56 AM

racism is natural and will allways occur if given time.

this "education" that we speak of HAS to be indoctrination for it to work.

Racism must be vital for our survival as a species, or it would not happen. It has been instilled in us over thousands etc of years.

Everything, EVERYTHING we do comes down to animal instincts and our survival.

Racism is a part of that, hard to accept, but fact

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: bobad
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 11:00 AM

DON'T FEED THE RACISTS!!!

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 11:01 AM

I don't believe however AB that wanting to live amongst your own people and to want better exclusively for your people is racist! It is natural, but not racist. Racism is when you hate someone else for being different to you. I don't believe in hating anyone for being different, but i do accept that we are inherently different and each should respect each-others right to self-determination, and to have ones own culture, identity and freedoms as a people.

it is only globalist governments that have pushed for multi-ethnic states, it serves big business.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 11:02 AM

I agree Bobad, racism is a killer, white and ethnic alike die from racism.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 11:13 AM

Does anyone read Doonesbury? Many years ago, one of the "black" characters had just had a child (actually, his wife had) and he and one of the white characters were watching her in a crib or baby carriage or something, being amazed and hopeful, and talking about giving her a good life. One of them says to the other(I imagined them whispering) "Let's not teach her about"(he spells it out)"r*a*c*i*s*m*." The other one answers, "I'm hip."    Tw

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:51 PM

"Do you believe in a white-minority Britain?"

Is that the fear that drives your campaign, David?

I guess you didn't bother to read the article about Canada's new Governor General that I posted above. It speaks volumes about a government that has embraced multi-culturalism.

To answer your question above - I would rather have Ms Jean as Governor General than another dour, old white man.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 01:44 PM

so thats a yes you do support a white-minority Britain

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 02:44 PM

Colour is important to peacocks

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 02:47 PM

How to end racism? Beat the shit out of racists.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 02:58 PM

You can't do that Chris, because you would be accused of racism. I mean, imagine beating up Muslim racists? Or in fact any racists of the non-white variety. You would be racist.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 03:02 PM

David - I don't care about the colour of the minority in Britain.

The colour of one's skin should not be the deciding factor of what constitutes good leadership.

Do you think Ms Jean is a good choice to act as the Queen's representative in Canada?

BTW - Multiculturalism in England will never work if people like you continue to exploit those who fear and hate those who are different.

Thank goodness most people just want to live in peace with their neighbors.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: GUEST,David Hannam
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 03:38 PM

So if you don't care about the colour of the minority in Britain, you don't have a problem with a white-minority Britain in that case.

Thank you, that is all i wanted to know.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:07 PM

Thats right, David, I have no problem with a white minority in Britain or in any other country.

I answered your question, now you should answer mine.

Do you think Ms Jean is a good choice to act as the Queen's representative in Canada?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:25 PM

Does the colour matter if the culture is kept?

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: jpk
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 06:52 PM

no carol no fit,just if you would read something besides that which may support your veiw and no other,kind of like the typ bible or koran or whichever thumper,you only parrot the parts that fit your veiw and ignore the rest.
and i suppose that i should parrot some tome on the subject of british moslims,and their anti british bs,and cry because they now won't to kick a few out for the hate mongering,the fact being that they are rabbid dogs willing to bite the hand that took them in and feed them,guess i will have to parrot it hear since you will fail to read it else where for yourself,[but i won't]but please tell me the brit's do not won't a few of THEM gone,that would be so racist,they only bit a little bit.
have a good day any way and god bless.
oh yes,am i now the hate monger that mg was,that what you are tring to lable me as.least i am not going around tring to appologize for things that need no apploges,unless your caught in the your a victem/i'm a victem trap.
and it sounds like you are,always some one else to blame.
yeap,they ain't terrorist,we are,even if they did it,it is our fault.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 09:19 PM

"I don't think that wanting to live amongst your own people is racist" (David's above post).

I rest my case...

Bobert

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 01:14 AM

Now for Critisizing Islam, Carol would have it that i am a 'hate-monger'

No, you are spreading hate by incorrectly and consistantly saying that "Islam is" anything at all. Because it is not. The only thing you can say about Islam as a whole is that it is a religion that has as many different levels of liberalism and fundamentalism, backwardness and forwardness as any other religion. Any other all inclusive discriptors you put on it are lies and they do promote hatred and ignorance.

Subject: RE: How to End Racism
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 02:10 AM

no carol no fit,just if you would read something besides that which may support your veiw and no other

You don't know what I read and don't read.

And you are blaming a lot of people for things that are being done by only a very small number of people who belong to the same religion. This is most certainly hate-mongering.

How about if we hold you personally responsible for all of the lynchings of African American men that have been committed by White, Christian men in the US south? That would be the equivalent of what you are doing with regard to Muslims.